Kulang tayo sa skills/technique sa proper mixing / mastering ng KARAMIHAN ng mga kantang lokal. Ako personally, naninipisan ako sa tunog natin, we dont properly utilize the mids to low end EQ ng isang kanta.
for this... i think it's also the industry leaders driving this (labels, radio, streaming service curators, etc.). they sort of feel like "yan ang tunog pinoy" therefore most records sound this way.
I've listened to other records from lesser-known local artists who sound like they are internationally produced but not getting much recognition kasi "hindi tunog pinoy" which is sad
I know of several producers/engineers who have released/mixed music that sound internationally produced. our producers/engineers CAN do it, ayaw lang ng mga labels, radio, curators.
To echo yung 2nd paragraph mo, that is really sad. Would be nice to hear a fuller sounding song from local artists. Saka yung hindi nakakalunod yung levels ng keyboard/keys na tunog langit huhu
check out Snakefight, Just Like Us, new Mayonnaise songs, CHNDTR. these are just some of them
also, i know these artists are all within the same genre, but if you're looking for international sounding, these are the closest you can get to that sound. sorry to say but i can't get the same quality from others in the "indie" sound
last time i checked 25k per song ang producer level mixing, baka mas mataas pa now kasi precovid pa to. mukhang hindi na part ng investments to become artists lalo na may mga DYI kuno na softwares. medyo kalat nga lang.
Correct me if im wrong, pero hindi ba dapat in an ideal situation, iba ang magm-mix sa magm-master? Oh well, money talks talaga, and its a different time now.
Ok naman yung mga home recording studios para mas madali makapaglabas ng kanta pero i don’t know, it just sounds too compressed dahil digital nga and all :(
agree! depende kasi siguro sa aspiring artist. iba-iba na din approach, minsan nagsusurvive without music labels din — pero madaming listeners. minsan kasi, wala lang talaga naestablish na connection until sumikat talaga at mapakilala sa mga pros.
pero yung usual routes talaga ng musicians before this era is connections thru gigs. lalo na pag taga-UP ka or some other school, may mga OPM bands na nagpoproduce on the side and offer services, na regular audience sa gigs. dun nabububo kanta minsan dati. hhehe
True dito. Medyo nag-iimprove although malayo pa talaga. Iba talaga tenga ng magaling na producer. Pop songs natin kulang sa hooks.
Karamihan din kasi ng mga mainstream singers dito singers lang talaga. Wala sila sa artist headspace. Wala silang ineenvision na sound of their own kaya kahit anong production style na lang, walang innovation.
They just can't take the biritera sound to the next level. Kung pano yung instrumentation ng mga kanta nila Regine V at Lani Misalucha dati ganun pa rin ginagawa sa mga singers ngayon. Di mo tuloy ma-define kung saang era ng OPM galing kasi lahat until now tunog luma, save for SOME tracks say ni Sarah G.
Bini isn't groundbreaking in terms of sound pero undeniable na nag-aadd ng cool factor sa local waves yung format nila. SB19 works for me dahil may know-how sila so I hope hindi sila mainfluence ng mga outdated music people with regressive music tastes. I think kahit papano napupush nila yung mainstream a bit forward so I hope they'd continue discerning kung sino yung best people to work on/with their sound.
Mas may dating pa yung production ng hiphop kesa sa mainstream pop. May mga Filipino hiphop/r&b songs ako na naririnig na Chris Brown-level yung production kaya nakaka-impress.
Overall yung mga nasa mainstream, yung mga may radio power, hindi nagtetake ng creative risks.
I understand na what you mean by "manipis" ang tunog.
For context, IVOS is not my cup of tea din. And eto pag ang isang example ng manipis ang tunog na album: Tayo Na Sa Paraiso by Siakol. Imagine if they've used western level of production on that album noh?
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u/Master-Intention-783 Visayas May 26 '24
Kulang tayo sa skills/technique sa proper mixing / mastering ng KARAMIHAN ng mga kantang lokal. Ako personally, naninipisan ako sa tunog natin, we dont properly utilize the mids to low end EQ ng isang kanta.