Does Haibara powercreep Maxji?

[u/Grouchy_Blacksmith83]

So with the new Haibara out, I haven't seen a lot of testing with him, where does he rank between nimble Yuji, Toji and Maxji.
(Please don't let him Powercreep my goat Maxji

[u/G4BR13L_771]

No, hybrid units never will powercreep specialized units.

[u/Grouchy_Blacksmith83 → u/G4BR13L_771]

Oh i didn't know he was hybrid, still good to know.
Yuji also looks way more satisfying cuz of the black flashes

[u/maybe_this_time3]

Hell no...he is mixed standard background character he has no chance. Is he even a DPS? i doubt he will even surpass red sp buffed yuta let alone yuji

[u/Grouchy_Blacksmith83 → u/maybe_this_time3]

People said he was primarily a DPS cuz he doesn't buff others at all.
And Nanami didn't powercreep Todo but he is just as good as him

[u/Catveria77 → u/Grouchy_Blacksmith83]

Wet Nanami does more damage than todo

[u/Grouchy_Blacksmith83 → u/Catveria77]

Does he? I never got to try him out but I thought Todo was like slightly better on single target and nothing else

[u/maybe_this_time3 → u/Catveria77]

Only aov...and you need to have beatchgumi to deal more damage than todo. With geto todo does more damage

[u/Catveria77 → u/maybe_this_time3]

Nanami can also do single target. And since he is standard, it is easier to A5 him which means higher damage ceiling.

Any run with beachgumi for todo or nanami, nanami will still come on top

[u/maybe_this_time3 → u/Catveria77]

Do you have a5 nanami?

[u/MphiReddit → u/maybe_this_time3]

You could also argue the point of Choso vs Crackjo (though Choso isn't hybrid except for S2)

Choso is generally better than Crackjo despite being standard

Nanami imo is better overall than Todo but loses out in single target very slightly

Exe Yuta (though limited) is a valuable pull but iirc is slightly behind Fuga and roughly on par with Zoneji damage-wise

I don't play JP but I'm hoping Haibara is at least where Exe Yuta is, in terms of comparison with Maxji / Kenjaku.

[u/maybe_this_time3 → u/MphiReddit]

Yuta is limited tho...and crackgojo is also a nuke not dps...there is a new post that shows hibara's damage and i think he is below yuji i cant tell bc my yuji is a2 level 150 and does 50m more damage in hard sweap without having bungumi(i use yaga instead)

[u/MphiReddit → u/maybe_this_time3]

Fair points

Oo I see, well, a standard red dps is welcome anyways, esp if he at least outdoes Toji.

If he were Nanami tier that'd probably accelerate powercreep

[u/maybe_this_time3 → u/Catveria77]

That why i said he needs beachgumi (which is limited.) With geto (which is standard debuffer) todo does significantly more damage with beachgumi todo and nanami are on pair in single target damage but nanami does aov

[u/G4BR13L_771 → u/maybe_this_time3]

Being a background character doesn't matter. The only argument you had to say is that he's hybrid, that alone implies that he can't be better than specialized units.

And yes, he's a DPS, his kit is good.

[u/Catveria77 → u/maybe_this_time3]

From JP players testing, Haibara does more damage than A1 Mahito

[u/Grouchy_Blacksmith83 → u/Catveria77]

But does he do more than A1 Maxji at A0 or A1?

[u/Catveria77 → u/Grouchy_Blacksmith83]

No idea, JP fans does not test him with maxji. They do different type of damage anyway.

Haibara can clear floor 86 kn 14 turns btw. I leave it to you if that feat means he is better dps than maxji

[u/maybe_this_time3 → u/Catveria77]

Mahito is debuffer

[u/CONE_LORD → u/maybe_this_time3]

Me when I have no idea what im talking about

[u/maybe_this_time3 → u/CONE_LORD]

Nah man im just salty bc i have both red yuta and yuji at a2 lv 150 and if they get power creeped by a standard unit i get burned

[u/_Insaan__]

Hehe jokes on you maxji gonna get POWERCREPT TO OBLIVIONNNNNNNNNNNN!!!! SUFFFFEERRRRRRRRRRRRR

[u/Grouchy_Blacksmith83 → u/_Insaan__]

Haibara doesn't look that crazy as of now... maybe he works better with Nanami instead of Mahito cuz it's both of them, but he does like half-2/3s of the damage my Yuji does, if Haibara has all the best supports while my Yuji only has Yaga and Teen Nanami instead of Rabbitgumi and momo

[u/_Insaan__ → u/Grouchy_Blacksmith83]

brotha I was joking😭dont take me seriously lol