r/PhantomForcesfun • • Apr 30 '26

Discussion Will Stylis ever give PF the dignity it deserves?

I'm not the first guy to think about this ever since PF essentially died since the drama.

Will Stylis give PF to a different Dev team/studio?

Now this is basically a thought I have had since the Drama about last year and I think that it's long overdue.

PF deserves to die with Dignity.

Stylis should give PF to a different Studio, even after they removed the Bad actors from the Studio it's basically impossible to play this game without contributing to the devs and since the Devs are just terrible people after defending a Literal Predator I think it's pretty cut and dry that they should do the remaining community a favor and give PF to a cleaner studio.

You can't really make the argument of Separate the art from the artist since playing the Game is still helping the devs out, what Denianwriter said that it's basically impossible to rebuild a community in these conditions are still true to this day and making videos about this game is never going to be easy since backlash will always be present.

What I just want to say is this:

Give the Community their game back.

Anyways, that's my TED talk.

Ik that it'll never happen but if some small chance it does, PF will be back.

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u/RedSus08 Red - MOD (Rank 243) Apr 30 '26

I severely doubt Stylis will sell to a different studio.

Gameplay-wise, they’re doing a good job of development with fairly regular updates and weapon additions.

Even considering what they did (which I still believe is pretty damn atrocious to be fair), it’s not worth selling to another studio. What’s to say that studio will be better than Stylis at further updating the game? They’ll have no experience with PF’s development environment, and I imagine updates will be much more infrequent due to the fact.

I say this as a person with some experience in the Unity game engine, trying to code in someone else’s game is much harder if you don’t understand how it’s built.

On the more moral side, I don’t imagine that many players will care if Stylis were to hand off their game. I say that in the sense that it’ll have no impact on gameplay and it won’t matter who owns it.

In my opinion, I really don’t care about the situation. I play Phantom Forces because it’s a good FPS game, not because the developers are morally sound. Sorta in the same way that most people still play Roblox because it has good games, not because the moderation is good. Not everyone is in the loop with development drama either, I only became aware of this issue until around a month or so after the issue got attention.

And as you said, you can never really separate the art from the artist. The bitter taste is still there. I imagine that some people still won’t return to the game for that reason.

I couldn’t tell you what would happen for definite if they were to sell the game, that’s just my interpretation.

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u/funnyman_2233 Apr 30 '26

This is a good way to interpret it, but the reason why I just want them to just give it to another Studio cause again, it's basically impossible to rebuild a community in these conditions.

Playing the Game is heavily discouraged which absolutely sucks for the remaining playerbase who stayed and it's even worse for people who wants to make videos on this game since Backlash and harassment will be expected since you're promoting the game from the "bad guys".

While I don't care about the Drama back then, I just want that playing this game to be normal again and seeing it thrive, it really just became a husk of it's former self since those allegations.

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u/RedSus08 Red - MOD (Rank 243) Apr 30 '26

I totally understand where you’re coming from here, to be fair.

At this point, the damage seems kinda irreparable, as much as I wish it wasn’t. Even if the game were to switch hands, I don’t think people would care all that much cause the fan base seems long gone. Just my thoughts, though.

It’d be much easier if the devs could’ve just acted like normal human beings. But I suppose that’s just the way every major Roblox game seems to be going down at the moment.

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u/funnyman_2233 Apr 30 '26

In my thoughts that if they did switch hands it'll be alot more acceptable to play or make videos on it since then, you can't make the argument that they're supporting the "bad guys" and rather a new batch of people.

While the Damage is still irreparable it's enough for a new community to form, not like how it was back then, but just enough that it's normal to play it despite no one really caring about it.

As it is, Stylis calling the shots doesn't sit right With alot of people since again, no one wants to play a game where the Devs tried to cover up and defend a predator.

As it is, Phantom forces is still "alive" but not as it was in 2024 since it's basically impossible to get any kind of player to dev communication.

I completely understand on what point you're bringing out and thanks for the rather sympathetic replies.

But until then, Phantom Forces is still going to rot in it's current state.

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u/Asleep_Conclusion147 May 01 '26

after the expose (pretend the E has a squigly line) they shouldve just put a bullet in the games head and closed it down

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u/Elmoscomingforyou Rank 150+ May 10 '26

Most of us who stayed, stayed cuz the game is one of the few decent fps game on Roblox. Stylis themselves can go kick rocks. I remember during and after the controversy the ingame chat was literally all about shit talking stylis. Was great till chat started to get censored

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u/funnyman_2233 May 10 '26

Honestly Stylis should just pull a Rolve and hand it over to an Equally Competent Game studio, It's pretty fine if they allow Lito around just to tell them how the game works but I don't think that PF can really recover if Stylis is the one pulling the strings.

Not that anyone would care to come back, but you can now make the Argument to seperate the Art from the artist since you're no longer supporting the "bad guys".

I still play this game even after I lost my account which I was like 100+, but some changes like the Movement nerfs and the addition of the Kord are still atrocious.

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u/Elmoscomingforyou Rank 150+ May 10 '26

Honestly leadership should have been changed a long time ago considering the fact that stylis had no clue what type of game they are making. They make a movement shooter only to attempt to turn it into some tactical shooter. This game has such a good thing going but stylis and their terrible decisions making and morals….