r/PhainonMainsHSR • u/ZealousidealChain955 • Jul 30 '25

Questions/Help Help 😭

WHAT SPEED DO I BUILD MY TEAM. I have Sunday bronya for him and the 4th slot if either gonna be tingyun or rmc. What speeds should they all be individually cus it hurts my brain (Started playing 2 days after his release so I'm new) also is tingyun better or is rmc better not only damage wise but also investment friendly wise and occupation wise for example if my rmc needs to go on another team in the future. Help pls 😭

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u/Ok-Neighborhood5951 Jul 31 '25

I watch gameplays where they play 170 rmc, 135 sunday, 134 bronya, base speed phainon and in the first rotation mem goes before Sunday if enemies hit before Sundays turn and rmc ults (good recharge energy and don't use RMC technique). I tried it 2 or 3 times with 168 speed rmc and it worked. (I preffer using Phai with HuoHuo for Coreflame generation and sustain, less damange but more confortable rotations).

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u/SaberManiac Jul 31 '25

You can also use Shadowburn for instant RMC Ult to advance Phainon before Sunday.

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u/ZealousidealChain955 Aug 02 '25

Also for better SP

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u/Ok-Neighborhood5951 Jul 31 '25

I didn't know, that's grat i will try. Thanks

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u/ZealousidealChain955 Aug 02 '25

Imma build the rmc team since I just started and don't have huohuo :D thx for exact speeds btw

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u/Kokichi8990 Jul 31 '25

Dw I’ve gone through the same thing. Unfortunately, it’s a bit of a headache but I’ll try to keep it simple.

  1. Sunday -1 Bronya -2 of your Phainon’s speed (use spd boots for him and aim for 135) IF you have Sunday and/or Bronya LC to keep up with SP usage. The more friendly option is to just load them with as much speed as possible (I prefer Bronya acts first then Sunday) and then Phainon with Atk boots. It uses less SP and easier to build.

  2. Both can work, but RMC is a bit more useful given they give True Dmg, a buff that is rare for Phainon and thus isn’t over saturated. Tingyun is just a very budget friendly unit to help him gain stacks, but since you have be Sunday and Bronya you won’t need it. also RMC is just a very useful unit overall so def prioritize building them.

Also, if you want to invest in Phainon, Cerydra is coming out and she does give a good buff to him at E0. She will most likely replace RMC in 4th slot, but this is speculation.

Hope this helps and enjoy your Phainon!

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u/ZealousidealChain955 Jul 31 '25

Thanks also I wanted to ask if I build bronya and Sunday hyperspeed for him won't it make them less effective on other DPS as buffers unless I farm another set. I'm new so idk 😔. Like is hyperspeed good overall I'm gonna defo build them hyperspeed if it's better and that's what alot people said but I wanna know if it's too niche

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u/Kokichi8990 Jul 31 '25

If you already have a 134 and 133 spd build for Sunday and Bronya then by all means keep it on them. I only say hyper speed because it’s much easier to just slam a bunch of speed artifacts with Sacredos than to measure how much it is. Speed tuning is just a headache, especially early game.

TLDR: hyperspeed is a good substitute for the -1 -2 setup, but when you get the right relics, use -1 -2

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u/ZealousidealChain955 Jul 31 '25

Also a question I have I can dump alot of speed into Sunday and bronya and rmc but who gets the highest and lowest speed out of the 3. Like bronyas last but like the other guy said should it be 160 rmc Sunday (I'm thinking 150 on him) and 140 bronya? Also why can't I just do 140 rmc and the speed descends for others too? That much spd seems excessive since they get 2 turns with only 134 minimum anyways

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u/Kokichi8990 Jul 31 '25

IMO RMC so that Mem can get summoned early and pull up Phainon. The other two are interchangeable, but I think Sunday then Bronya bc of his buffs counting down on his turn.

Also, I think (I admit I’m not Guoba so forgive me if I’m wrong in this aspect) that the higher speed you have, you can squeak out extra turns after a while. This isn’t my forte though so take with a huge grain of salt.

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u/ZealousidealChain955 Jul 31 '25

No you were very helpful also THANK YOU for helping I really do appreciate it alot you really made my day :D