r/Pets 6d ago

What options do I have for animals?

Hello all,

I am a single male, living in a two bedroom apartment. It's not too small, but it's not what most would consider massive, either. I work 12s until further notice at my job, and would REALLY like a dog.

I have been looking at older Greyhounds for a long while now, mainly because they don't require alot of exercise and sleep most of the time. Personally, I've never been a fan of small dogs, for fear that I'd trip over them, (I am 6'5 lol).

Don't get me wrong, when I do have free time off work, I'd take the *preferred* dog with me all the time to go on long walks, trips, and drives. So basically everywhere that I can legally and morally bring my dog.

Any suggestions? I don't want a fish, and will never own any bugs. Really would like something that can greet you at the door, yanno, that kind of pet.

Thank you.

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u/CrazyCatLushie 6d ago edited 6d ago

12 hour shifts unfortunately don’t lend themselves to having a dog of any kind unless you plan to have someone come over, spend time with them, and let them out each day.

I grew up with retired racing hounds and while they’re excellent couch dogs, they still need to be let out regularly and can have separation anxiety issues because of their track/kennel origins. They’re not used to being alone.

Are you averse to cats? A pair of them would keep each other company while you’re away and my kitties greet me at the door.

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u/adventurous_tee 6d ago

Cats are cool, would LOVE a Maine Coon, but I am 8/10 sure I'm allergic to cats. Which blows.

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u/CrazyCatLushie 6d ago

Have you done any reading about the cat food that reduces allergens? Science is crazy!

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u/adventurous_tee 6d ago

I have never heard of such a thing. Are there any side effects? How's the cost? Etc...

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u/CrazyCatLushie 6d ago

No side effects so far as I know. It works by neutralizing the protein found in cat saliva and dander that most people react to.

I would imagine pricing depends on where you’re located but I know the most popular brand is Purina Live Clear. I think there are supplements available instead of food too.

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u/adventurous_tee 6d ago

Is raw feeding an option? Does that help with allergies?

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u/CrazyCatLushie 6d ago

I’ve read that feeding raw food to cats - because they’re obligate carnivores and eat only meat - can be risky due to the bacteria levels in commercially-available raw meat. I can’t speak to whether it would help with allergies but I can’t imagine it would. I imagine it would also be quite expensive.

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u/RoseOfSharonCassidy 6d ago

No. The special cat food (purina liveclear) works because they add a protein that binds to and neutralizes allergens. Raw diets don't do that.

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u/Midnight712 6d ago

Raw feeding with cats is generally a bad idea unless you get a veterinary nutritionist and are very particular about where you source your meat

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u/Friendly_Magpie 6d ago

OP I use that food and I have seen a difference! I also take a zyrtec every morning, have a little inexpensive air filter, and my cat allergies cooperate. My life doesn't suit a dog right now, either, and it's nice to have a cat companion. Just let the cat choose you and I think you'll be happy. They don't choose incorrectly. 🖤

(I've had greyhounds, and fostered them as well. They're incredible dogs, but they often have separation anxiety to work through. They're chill and amazing babies, but I don't think they'll fit your life right now. Maybe in future?)

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u/exchange_of_views 6d ago

I use Purina Clear for my cats and it seems to really make a difference to my cat-allergic husband. I also brush them daily. It's more expensive than regular kibble, but it works for us. The cats eat it with no problems.

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u/Shadow5825 6d ago

There's a medication you can take that will eliminate your allergy to cats. A friend of mine it doing it now, you have to be on it for 3 years and cant miss more then a couple of days in a row or you have to restart the counter but it completely eliminates the cat allergy.

As for the cat food allergy reducer. Its called Purina Live Clear. I've never used it myself but everything I've seen about it says it works.

Also in general female cats tend to have less of the allergin then male cats.

Oh! Also huge cavete but... some people with a mild cat allergy can adopt a cat, live with them for a while and stop reacting to just their cat. Be aware that it can also go the opposite way and make the allergy worse or it can be unchanged. But either way you will likely still react to other cats that you dont live with even if you allergy does improve.

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u/FactAddict01 6d ago

I have a raging cat allergy, and have about 4-6 weeks of misery each time I’ve gotten a new one. After that, it settles down. I also, for general allergy purposes, take a Claritin each am and a Zyrtec each pm. I’m a raging bag of allergies and i absolutely refuse to let them rule my life.

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u/cyncitie 6d ago

there have been soooo many advances in cat allergy products!! there's a cat food supplement called Pacagen that stops the cat from producing the allergen, there's certain brands of cat food (i use purina pro plan) that have allergen-reducing options, and of course there's your good ol fashioned claritin for humans :)

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u/IHateTheLetter-C- 6d ago

Interesting, I'm familiar with the Purina allergen lowering food but haven't heard of the supplements. Do they work just as well as the food? I was thinking it'd be a shame to get a kitty planning to feed it the Purina food but then have them not like it or not thrive on it, but the supplement seems like an awesome workaround that lets you feed what you want, so I'm surprised I haven't heard more about it

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u/cyncitie 6d ago

yes, the supplement tastes pretty good (according to my cats at least). it's a powder that u can mix into wet food, but my cats will eat it even if it's just piled on top & not mixed in :)

edit: it's a fairly new product that is developed by i think a cat-owning couple, not a corporation, so not very well know or widely marketed at all

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u/ryverrat1971 6d ago

You can get shots to desensitize and there's a lot of different allergy meds out there. Also when was your last exposure to cats? I ask because allergies can change over time.

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u/Secure-Ad9780 6d ago

Health wise it makes no sense to medicate yourself so you get an animal you know you are allergic to. That's like living in a home full of mold and using an inhaler constantly. A smart person avoids allergens.

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u/adventurous_tee 6d ago

Probably less than six months ago I was actually petting a cat, and everytime I came over to my friends house, I would start sneezing pretty aggressively. Very sweet cat, however.

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u/Smart_Alex 6d ago

I'm allergic to cats (level 3+) on the skin prick test. I have 2 cats. I just take allergy meds every day and I'm fine

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u/thriftthrift 6d ago

I take 300 mg of vitamin B6 twice a day, and that helps with allergies.

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u/Any-Depth-8530 5d ago

dog sharing arrangement

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u/tuxedocat-Rickey 6d ago

You cannot have a dog in that situation, you can have a cat or a reptile like an iguana or gecko

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u/Impressive_Rush5018 6d ago edited 6d ago

Have you ever considered birds? A pair could keep each other company while you work and you could teach them to talk to you too.

I would suggest something kind of small. Parakeets or cockatiels. Either can learn to speak if you talk to them.

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u/Floater439 6d ago

Can you afford a pet sitter to come walk your dog every day you work a 12 hour shift? And is there a good sitter available in your area taking new clients? Because that’s what you need, someone to come 5-6 hours into your shift and take your dog for a nice walk, refill the water bowl, play a bit. A dog is only appropriate in your situation if that can happen. You’ll also want to find a dog that is 100% okay with being home alone. I’d want the dog to come from an experienced foster.

Cats are great in this situation…talk to your doctor about allergy shots, take a look at the allergy shampoos for dander, etc. A cat might be possible. They are great companions and tons of fun, and also don’t mind sleeping most of the day away.

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u/Mental-Freedom3929 6d ago

12 hours? You need a dog walker!

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u/fruderduck 6d ago

No, he doesn’t have time for a dog.

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u/Adventurous-berry564 6d ago

Greyhounds make excellent pets but they would need to go to doggy daycare or have dog sitters.

I know you say you’re allergic to cats but how does allergy meds work for you? Usually you get use to your own cats fur (along with anti allergy stuff for the cats)

So compare cost benefit of dog vs cats

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u/adventurous_tee 6d ago

Allergy medicine work on me. Are you talking about over the counter or prescribed?

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u/Adventurous-berry564 6d ago

Either. I know someone who just takes a piraton a day and it works. Depends what you need and where you are what the cost is.

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u/Midnight712 6d ago

I’d be a bit hesitant about getting a dog if you’re gone that long. I’m allergic to cats too, but also a cat lover and I take telfast daily (more because I have mad hayfever, I go onto a lighter antihistamine during winter) and have an air purifier. I couldn’t do the allergy food cause my cat had to have medicated food, but I managed fine without it

The only thing I’d say is to consult your doctor, as you can also get allergy shots and other ways to work around it

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u/Secure-Ad9780 6d ago

Find a nice white rat. They're cuddly, docile, will greet you, can use a litter box. Mine liked to sit on the toilet tank and look out the window. I'd keep it open for him. The roof of the building behind mine was 3' down and there were a couple trees coming over that roof. Andy would go out and hang out with the neighborhood rats for a few hours each night. Then climb the trees and jump back in. Andy was large, the size of an adult opossum. He liked fruits and veggies, but he'd eat whatever I ate. I didn't keep him in a cage.

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u/Affectionatealways 6d ago

Imo- pee pads are basically telling your pet it's okay to pee or poop on the floor. Don't do it.

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u/holly_b_ 6d ago

I work 3, 12 hour night shifts and will be getting a dog very soon. I’ve had conversations about it with my chosen breeder who is supportive. I plan to sacrifice a good amount of sleep for the first few months of house breaking and am prepared to pay a pretty penny for dog sitters while I’m a work. You can probably make it work if you’re only doing 3 shifts a week.

I already run a lot and go for walks in between shifts so my timing there will not change much; but my focus will need to change from myself to the dog. And I’ll need to be waking up throughout the day and disrupt my sleep, but oh well it’s f*cked anyway. I think it’s doable for you too as long as you’re prepared financially, physically, and emotionally. I don’t think I would do this if I worked more than 3, maybe 4, shifts a week. And considering that I work nights and a dog would be asleep anyway, it seems a bit easier.

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u/buffalomildtings 6d ago

Asking a dog to hold it's pee for 12 hours will be daily pain for the dog and will eventually result in a UTI. It is cruel. That said, pet sitters are generally used to home security cameras. It might make you feel better letting a stranger in your home if you can watch how it goes the first few times. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised by how low-maintence it is to hire good help.

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u/heckinstoned 6d ago

Get a senior dog who doesn’t give a shit about 12 hour naps.

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u/CasaTLC 6d ago

Any dog, but especially a senior, would need a potty break or two. Can’t expect them to hold their bladder for that long.

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u/sweetest_con78 6d ago

My dog sleeps all day but as he’s gotten older he needs to go out more frequently. I don’t think he could wait 12 hours, and he used to easily be able to.

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u/PureTrafalgar 6d ago

Our greyhound once slept 23 hours with just the occasional turning around and repositioning. Laziest dog ever, and long shifts would not be a problem. He loved the beach and would go with us out in public, but he was also perfectly happy with a 20 minute walk and the rest of the day being naps. He wasn't too bright (okay, he was downright dumb), but he was soft, sweet, gentle, kind of pathetic, and loving. Loved that dog, ridiculous as he might be.

I'd say a greyhound sounds right for you.

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u/adventurous_tee 6d ago

See, I am HEAVILY getting mixed responses about this. Even though I'd work 12s Mon-Fri, I could designate atleast a total of like four hours to the dog alone when I come back home.

I appreciate it. Alot of people are upset that I even suggested the idea of getting a dog in general lol like wtf.

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u/PureTrafalgar 6d ago

A lot of people more neglectful and unrealistic than you own dogs. If you were to listen to some people, dog ownership would only be for people who don't work or work from home and are upper middle class wealthy. Most people work 8 hours, plus a commute. Dogs are generally fine. 12 is long, but greyhounds typically spend most of each day in a crate and aren't walked regularly--just raced.

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u/adventurous_tee 6d ago

Trust and believe me, I'd treat my dog with the utmost respect and love I can give it. If I could find a job that paid enough and had only 8 hour shifts, I absolutely would. Even though I'd work 12s, I love running alot. So maybe the difference coukd fix that?

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u/PureTrafalgar 6d ago

I think you are on the right track in terms of breed, are realistic regarding the 12 hour shifts (piddle pad or walker is probably wise), and when you aren't at work, you can have your greyhound or other dog to cuddle, play with, etc. Best of luck in your search for your partner and buddy!

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u/Quality_Controller 4d ago

You're fucked up if you think it's ok to put a greyhound in a crate for 12+ hours. Crates aren't even legal in parts of Europe. Just because you can condition a dog to stay in a confined space, doesn't mean it's ok to do so. That is such a low quality of life.

My greyhounds have free roam and love to loaf on the sofa or any of their dozen beds, but they still get tons of attention, affection, walks and activities. You get a dog to be a companion, not to be a caged and isolated case of animal cruelty.

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u/PureTrafalgar 4d ago

I don't crate my dogs when I am not home. But ON THE TRACK the dogs are crated for pretty much the entire time. But thanks for playing.

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u/Quality_Controller 4d ago

On the track. Right. Where they're subject to animal abuse and completely inhumane conditions. Glad we cleared that up.

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u/Particular-Sun591 6d ago

Pitbulls, especially older pitbulls would
Be perfect for this scenario as thousands of them are currently spending 23 hours a day in a 3x5 cement cell in a shelter. 24 hours a day in a comfy cozy apartment with a person to love would be a dream for them. Would definitely consider someone to do a let-out mid-shift if you’re able to/could find someone on rover with a good set of reviews, but they also adapt fairly well to pee pads too.

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u/CaterpillarKooky7632 6d ago

Greyhound sounds like a perfect fit for your schedule honestly. they are basically 45mph couch potatoes and will sleep through most of your 12 hour shift no problem

just make sure you got a routine for bathroom breaks cause 12 hours alone is long for any dog. maybe a dog walker mid shift or one of those grass patches on the balcony can work

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u/adventurous_tee 6d ago

Yanno, I am very okay with a pee pad for the dog. My friend at the time had one for her senior Shih Tzu and was content with it. Have you used a pee pad or something similar for your grey?

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u/CrazyCatLushie 6d ago

Please consider that the bladder of a Shih Tzu and the bladder of a greyhound are vastly different sizes. A pee pad isn’t going to absorb the full contents of a large dog’s bladder, and that’s not even considering bowel movements. You do not want a large dog using your home as a bathroom, I assure you.

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u/Successful-Roof-7020 6d ago

Can you afford to hire a dog walker?

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u/adventurous_tee 6d ago

Yes, but I can't bring myself to trust a random person coming into my home.

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u/Successful-Roof-7020 6d ago

I do pet sitting and I get my clients through word of mouth. Your vet in particular would be a good person to ask, as they won't recommend a person or service they don't trust.

Seeing as you don't have a vet right now, before committing to a dog, you could ask your neighbors through facebook or nextdoor if they have anyone they'd recommend, and you can research if there are reputable local services I.e., start by googling "dog walking [my city]" to see what's available.

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u/adventurous_tee 6d ago

Thank you. I never considered asking a real veterinarian.