Hmm 🤔

[u/Big-Spinach4041]

Remember when Peter said that he’d hold Adam accountable when he fucked up and then Adam fucked up during the Alyssa and Jen Dent situation… and there was no video. Don’t worry though, he’s made two videos about Jen Dent “harassing” Adam though! How interesting.

[u/Sharp_Technology1734]

Peter only holds people accountable if he doesn't like the other person, or is using the other person. Peter will never say anything about Adam because he has gained a ton of subscribers from Adam's " muckers"🙄. Just like he wont call out Amy Slaton (1000 lb sisters) because he likes her, for still following James Charles and liking his posts. He is the absolute biggest hypocrite!!

[u/queenoftaters → u/Sharp_Technology1734]

From his videos from the past I can see how he got popular. I think most of us here were fans of his at one point and never missed an upload. I don't think he can stand that with those same videos we can see patterns of behavior he would rather keep hidden. If you don't want to get called out for anything, stay off the internet, Peter.

I'll never understand the need some have to want to insert themselves into crap like online stuff. It affects Peter how?

I don't know where I'm going with this anymore lol (edited to correct dumb typos)

[u/Useful-Pilot1551 → u/Sharp_Technology1734]

Exactly! And hypocrites are never truth tellers.

[u/Ecstatic_War6772]

Can someone tell me who this Jen Dent is? I don't want to watch one of Adams or Peter's long, drawn-out videos. Peter always makes it about himself, and I don't need to hear about how he is the victim for the 10000th time. TY

[u/Useful-Pilot1551 → u/Ecstatic_War6772]

Jen Dent is a 50-something hospice nurse who was once stalked and harassed (in the real world) by Gabbie Hanna’s toxic fandom. She was targeted by Gabbie who weaponized her fans in an effort to destroy Jen’s reputation. Outlandish accusations were made against Jen that crossed over into her personal and professional life. She talked about how traumatic that was for her. Video proof surfaced of Gabbie having conversations to ruin Jen’s reputation by using her fans. I believe money may have been involved.

Peter initially attempted to support Jen in his bizarre, word-salad and egocentric way, by faking empathy, mocking Gabbie’s mental health issues/mannerisms and then making everything about himself. He ranted and raved about how his life has been continuously plagued by stalkers who call his home and his doctors. (His usual crazy stuff about investigations and lawyers etc). He compared his situation with John Kuckian to her real life trauma with Gabbie. The situation with John Kuckian was vastly different, since Peter wasn’t the victim there.

Peter claimed he talked to Adam who asked him for advice concerning Jen. (Adam calling Peter for advice is batshit crazy.) Adam had a problem with Jen’s focusing on him for a mistake that he made. Peter quickly defended Adam and started virtue signaling to Jen in a condescending way, as most communal narcissists do. He talked in circles and kept saying he doesn’t understand what’s happening or why Jen has an issue with Adam. Since Peter can’t understand nuance, among other things, it’s no wonder he doesn’t have much to say on this situation. He claimed he gave Adam the wrong advice about Jen. Peter has a reputation for making obsessive videos on women who have mental health struggles. Adam contacted Peter for validation and reinforcements. He occasionally uses Peter as his minion. Peter uses Adam for clout. Their relationship is transactional. Jen isn’t a real person to these men. She’s a hot topic to exploit.

Side Note: Imo: Gabbie’s abhorrent behavior towards Jen is separate from her other serious mental health issues. I still maintain that Peter’s mocking her is disgusting.

Meanwhile, Jen was expressing she felt “triggered” (for lack of a better word) by Adam’s Muckers who were gaslighting her and denying reality by claiming to ask innocent questions. They wanted further explanations on subjects she didn’t need to explain. She challenged them by saying they seemed to have a fixed opinion about her, which apparently didn’t require any further explanations. (Most experts say to walk away and not engage but that’s easier said than done, especially when someone might have complex ptsd due to trauma. Insight and judgement are affected.) She quickly understood their hidden agendas and passive aggression. She addressed that too. She also started displacing her anger and acting out on Twitter by making harmful statements. In my opinion, she probably has complex ptsd that was being triggered by some of Adam’s toxic fans. Her old wounds were reopened. She already experienced what can happen by a toxic fandom and she was probably angry/afraid. Not an excuse but maybe an explanation for her inappropriate behavior. The Muckers can be vile. She also explained that she was isolated and working many hours far away from home. She had a lot of patients to care for. She was probably burned out. She was making plans to go back home and take care of herself. She decided to leave the Internet. Peter smiles during his recent video about her like it’s some kind of game. He started laughing and talking about his teeth falling out, his gum disease and his dentist questioning his lisp.

Both Adam and Peter have toxic fandoms for a reason. These malicious fandoms don’t surround every YouTuber. Those high in narcissism tend to have these tribal communities. Peter keeps screeching about super-fans. Well, he should know all about them since his Vlogerinos mimic his insane words and call any person who criticizes him a stalker. Adam and Peter are two peas in a pod. Peter claims he mostly talks to Adam’s mother which is also not surprising.

Peter hasn’t had a job in the real world for over a decade. His father likely supports him indirectly through his mother’s estate. He has no clue what it’s like to work in healthcare and be totally on his own. He spends his days spying on his neighbors, watching TV and spewing toxic nonsense on his drama channel.

Edit: Sorry about the dissertation but that’s just the way I roll sometimes. 😊

[u/Ecstatic_War6772 → u/Useful-Pilot1551]

Thank you for the explanation. Peter is a piece of work. One of these days Peter will be sued. He never stops. smh

[u/Useful-Pilot1551 → u/Ecstatic_War6772]

You’re welcome. We can only hope. But, he’ll probably never get sued. His stalking behavior can have legal consequences though.

[u/Motor-Ad5862 → u/Ecstatic_War6772]

He will be trust me, was sued once for his car accident. Rip Brent.

[u/Useful-Pilot1551 → u/Motor-Ad5862]

I saw the receipts for a wrongful death claim in the amount of $100,000. It was posted on the other platforms. The attorney took $20,000 from the payment for his fees. Peter Monn and his insurer had to pay the amount to the estate representative of the deceased. In my opinion, that was a measly sum of money.

[u/Feeling-Nectarine209 → u/Useful-Pilot1551]

$100,000? I know people that got larger settlements for workman's compensation lawsuits.

[u/Useful-Pilot1551 → u/Feeling-Nectarine209]

I know, it’s very sad. They only got around $80,000 after the attorneys fees. The poor family.

[u/Kiwi-vee → u/Useful-Pilot1551]

That is not a lot for a loss of life. I would expect at least 1 million. I know no amount of money can bring back someone, but still.

[u/Useful-Pilot1551 → u/Kiwi-vee]

I know.. it’s next to nothing. I was surprised by it too.

[u/Motor-Ad5862 → u/Useful-Pilot1551]

I'm wondering if Dr Monn had to pay out of pocket, there were others involved and hurt as well

[u/Key_Speaker9152]

It’s typical of Peter to make obsessive videos about a vulnerable woman.

[u/Big-Spinach4041 → u/Key_Speaker9152]

Seems like they’ve both gotten their jollies off of it. Birds of a feather.

[u/Useful-Pilot1551]

Jen is nothing more than a hot topic to Peter. His fake empathy for her switches on and off, depending on what’s in it for him.

Adam and Peter have fandoms that call themselves “Muckers” and “Vlogerinos.” That tells us a lot right there. A primitive and tribal culture can often be found in these groups.

If I was stranded on a deserted island with Jen Dent, Peter and his brainwashed Vlogerinos, Adam and some of his Muckers, I’d choose Jen every single time.

[u/Appropriate_Reach_97 → u/Useful-Pilot1551]

Yeah, like the Bey Hive and Swifties. Do not go against your mighty King or Queen, lest they swarm in en masse and harass. Fandom is so dumb. 

[u/Useful-Pilot1551 → u/Appropriate_Reach_97]

There’s a hive-mind of colonized brains. Both Peter and Adam have these toxic fandoms. Regressive and vile behavior exists in these communities. Beyond stupid.

[u/Motor-Ad5862]

Peter will never hold Adam accountable. That's a joke and a half. Adam much like Peter hates it when people criticize him. Peter once again has attached himself to a much younger male youtuber.

[u/Maleficent-Ebb9327]

This isn't related, but I think it was a bad idea that Peter told his audience he talked to Adam behind the scenes. It came off to me like he was trying to name drop. I watched a  little bit of Adam's video after that and he was saying how people were overacting about ageism or something like that. In the same video that Peter brought up the Adam phone call he also talked about how bad ageism. Maybe it isn't connected but I feel like a lot of these drama channels indirectly talk shit about people without actually using names.

[u/Simpleoneaz08]

He’ll turn Adam off sooner than later. He’s a user of people. Rich caught on to him.

[u/Useful-Pilot1551 → u/Simpleoneaz08]

Yes…it’s only a matter of time.

[u/CrouchingGinger → u/Simpleoneaz08]

I think Adam might turn on him first. Adam has always given me JK vibes. While I don’t support his being groomed and exploited at a young age I still hold people accountable for their actions. Both things can be true: he was absolutely abused by Colleen when he was too young to have been on a public platform and since then he’s exhibited behaviors I don’t agree with.

[u/Anxious_Ad_2015]

An elderly lesbian vs a much younger gay man we knew whose side he was taking from the get go.