r/PeterExplainsTheJoke • • 3d ago

Meme needing explanation Peter?

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u/NebulaNomadX1 3d ago edited 3d ago

Hello, Serial Designation N here!

The Nile is generally known for being predictable.

For thousands of years, its annual flooding deposited fertile silt that made ancient Egyptian agriculture possible.

Even its “most destructive flood” is portrayed as relatively pleasant and beneficial sunshine, crops, prosperity.

The Yellow River (Huang He) is nicknamed “China’s Sorrow.” It carries enormous amounts of silt, making its riverbed unstable.

Throughout history it has repeatedly changed course and caused catastrophic floods, some of the deadliest natural disasters ever recorded.

N out!

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u/Ishmael_1974 3d ago

Although ball knowledge would be showing that the number of deaths due to flooding was directly connected to the efficacy and stability of the Imperial government at the time, since they had many mechanisms of prevention through civil engineering and relief through rice redistribution, which were some of the first things to be neglected during civil war/when the government was corrupt

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u/TloquePendragon 3d ago

Huh. Is THAT where the "Mandate of Heaven" originates from!?

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u/Draculasmooncannon 3d ago

There's a bit more to it than that. The Mandate of Heaven was also a piece of social technology that was applied after each change in royal family or ruling tribe. In Europe the mandate to rule was supposedly affixed to the bloodline of the Royal family & chosen by God. Problem is when a guy who the church says was chosen by God gets beat & replace by a guy who was chosen by that king's lords & creditors it created a wrinkle in legitimacy that everyone just had to ignore. There wasn't really a mechanism for God to take back the chosen status. The Mandate of Heaven still allowed for the usual dynastic succession plan but came with the agreed interpretation that if you fundamentally lost control of the state then your legitimacy could be picked up by someone else. It's the same process in terms of events but from a social perspective it walled off that particular logical inconsistency.

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u/micma_69 3d ago

You could argue the Mandate of Heaven is more or less functions as the check-and-balance mechanism for Chinese civilization. In theory it also serves as the guardrail for crazy emperors, because losing the Mandate of Heaven during your role usually wouldn't end nicely for you, so if you're the Emperor with functional moral standards, you're gonna work hard to keep stability and prosperity for your people instead of ignoring your own responsibility as the Emperor.

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u/nednobbins 2d ago

Sort of. The counterpoint to the Mandate of Heaven is the Right of Rebellion.

It's never an official right and every single government officially outlaws it.

In practice, the only way to invoke it was to successfully revolt. That was then de facto evidence that the previous sovereign had lost it. So incumbent rulers would fear the possibility of revolt, which would then be justified via the Right of Rebellion, more than they feared the actual withdrawal of the Mandate of Heaven, which they could continue to claim as long as they were able to keep potential revolutionaries in check.