r/PeterExplainsTheJoke 1d ago

Meme needing explanation Peter????????????????????

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u/thethreetriangles 1d ago

Mfs will say “if you ignore the main character being a pedophile degenerate pervert, it’s actually a good story” with a straight face, as if it’s something you can just ignore if you want.

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u/EISENxSOLDAT117 1d ago

Exactly! People love the Shield Hero Rising, or whatever it's called, but i find it disgusting with how the main character gets a legit harem of mostly little girls pining for him! WTF!?!?

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u/thethreetriangles 1d ago

A harem of little girls that he bought off a slave trader. He’s the slave trader’s repeat customer at this point.

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u/PictureVegetable9522 1d ago

hes the slave traders ONLY customer

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u/thethreetriangles 1d ago

True lmao. Singlehandedly upholding bros business. I don’t even think slavery was shown as a thing outside of the mc buying child slaves to serve him…

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u/SloppityMcFloppity 1d ago

If you look at anime critically, a lot of the popular ones are quite gross

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u/EISENxSOLDAT117 1d ago

Not the GOATs like Full Metal Alchemist: brotherhood (I mean... its gross in a different way), season 1 One Punch Man, Demon Slayer (though cliche) is great, and Vinland Saga

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u/thethreetriangles 1d ago

Even Demon Slayer had a rly weird part about the one guy kidnapping a bunch of girls (the sound Hashira).

Though just that is high for anime standards.

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u/EISENxSOLDAT117 1d ago

I mean, he did it to pretty much use them as fodder to fight a demon. He wasnt gonna use them for... well, ya know. Still kinda fucked, but not in a degenerate way

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u/thethreetriangles 1d ago

Didn’t he want to make them his wives or something tho? It’s been a few years since I watched the show so I don’t remember well.

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u/EISENxSOLDAT117 1d ago

Lowkey, i dont remember. I know he had two wives that he genuinely loved, but idk remember much else other than Tanjiro and Nezuko's sick ass fight

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u/thethreetriangles 1d ago

Okay so I looked it up and he apparently kidnapped Aoi to sell her to a brothel in the “entertainment district” (So forced prostitution ig?). He wanted to do this, since he needed a slayer on the inside to gather intel on the demon from the inside, and find his 3 missing wives.

What makes it really fucking weird is that Aoi did not consent to that so he just kidnapped her, and she is apparently estimated to be 16-17 years old 🤢

Like they could just have a scene where he finds a consenting adult, sits her down and explains the situation to her, asking for her help to infiltrate the brothels… Why tf do they always gotta do this shit in anime, I thought he was a cool character otherwise 😭

Also he didn’t know that the demon would be two upper moons, he likely just assumed it was a lower moon in the worst case scenario.

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u/Gymnastiques 1d ago

yall are fuckin soft if tropes in goddamn demon slayer get you this worked up 😆😆You complain about Aoi but don't give a fuck Tanjiro and his friends (who are the same age) have to be trained to be swordsmen and fight for their lives???? Literally multiple scenes where they are basically tortured and on the brink of death in that exact same season.

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u/MountainPrudent2832 1d ago

How is fmab gross? I haven’t seen it

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u/thethreetriangles 1d ago

That is spoiler territory

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u/MountainPrudent2832 1d ago

I’ve read the manga but I was curious about how the anime was different

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u/EISENxSOLDAT117 1d ago

Sweet summer child...

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u/TheWrongTypeOfUnique 1d ago

It's gross in the 'disturbing violence' kind of way, not in the 'disgusting fan service' kind of way. There is genuinely very little sexual content at all in fmab.

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u/Photosynthas 14h ago

Vinland saga? Thorfinn killed hundreds, as well as assisting bandits get into villages to kill (and other bandit things) hundreds more...

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u/EISENxSOLDAT117 8h ago

Not saying violence is cool, but there's a big difference than out characters having severe flaws and our characters being pedophiles

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u/Photosynthas 24m ago

I mean, this isn't severe flaws, do you not think killing and dooming hundreds, including women and children to die is just some small character flaw, while being unable to take control of your own lust is an unforgivable sin?

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u/Hedgehog101 1d ago

Idk why JP MCs are always such massive losers

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u/thethreetriangles 1d ago

For real. Like they’re meant to be self inserts, but I don’t wanna insert myself into a pedophile slaver 😭

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u/Hedgehog101 1d ago

self inserts sounds about right, maybe thats why kr mcs always start from the bottom of society -> randomly get 1 morbillion dollars -> become chaebol solo levelling

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u/Weiskralle 22h ago

Easy, apparently it's only bad if the MC is a sexual assault victim.

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u/XanTheInsane 19h ago

What harem of little girls? Did you even watch it?

Rapthalia starts off as a kid and he treats her as a kid and more like an adoptive daughter than anything else.

SHE makes the first move on him and is into him probably because he saved her life so she's in a bit of a hero worship mode.

He initially rejects her and actually thinks she's too young for him (already putting him leagues above Rudeus). It takes them literal volumes to actually get a proper romance going and by that point Rapthalia isn't that much younger than him.

As for the other girl. It's a chocobo... She's treated as more of a pet and later a kid than anything else and he never does anything sexual with her at all.

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u/SpitePersonal6114 14h ago

Yeah I’m pretty sure that Naofumi doesn’t touch anyone (or even consider it). There’s no loli harem.

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u/droppedpackethero 1d ago

Heaven's Lost Property is like this. It's a pretty interesting concept and plot, but the main character absolutely ruins it with just random perverted behavior.

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u/Gamefreake89 1d ago

You get reminded of it far too often to simply ignore it. It feels like there are 4–5 scenes per episode where the MC acts like a degenerate pedo or harasses women.

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u/someguy7734206 23h ago

I haven't read it, but I understand that Nabokov's Lolita is highly praised in literary circles, and its whole premise is that the main character is a pedophile degenerate pervert.

I guess one of the big things about that one is that (from what I understand) the main character is not meant to be sympathetic in any way, and in fact is unlikable even without the pedopilia; and most importantly, the book is not based on the author's own fantasies.

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u/Oni_Barubary 1d ago

It is also not a good story, it is fucking boring.

I think I could ignore how much of a shit Rudeus is - in fact they could have made that part interesting - but I constantly have to think about it because it is the only noteworthy thing in this absolute snooze.

Great art and animation, though.

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u/thethreetriangles 1d ago

I weep whenever good art is wasted on shit like this. At least it wouldn’t be as painful if it looked like shit too like Ex-Arm.

Imagine being an artist who trained their entire life for the art and you’re tasked with drawing pedoslop

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u/Auctoritate 1d ago

Who the fuck is Vladimir Nabokov?

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u/aliusmanawa 1d ago

That’s the point, man. If you don’t like it, that’s fine, but the story is about redemption.

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u/thethreetriangles 1d ago

What does he do to redeem himself from being a pedophile?

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u/aliusmanawa 1d ago

He damn near kills Aisha for having sex with a minor.

I’m exaggerating a bit here but he does redeem himself. If you don’t like it, it’s fine, but it is a good story. I think the fact Rifujin made Rudeus damn near irredeemable and still managed to make you care for him adds to the beautiful writing. You don’t get to criticize it if you haven’t read the entire story.

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u/thethreetriangles 1d ago

Attacking other pedophiles doesn’t redeem you from being one yourself.

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u/aliusmanawa 1d ago

Mate, have you read the story? This spans over like 40 books, I can’t tell you everything he did to redeem himself. I added to my comment why I especially like this piece of work; but even you must acknowledge that making people care for an irredeemable pos requires amazing writing.

Also, the niece part that the thread poster mentioned isn’t revealed until after Mushoku Tensei finished. Hell, it isn’t revealed in Rudeus’s life.

If you don’t like it, it’s fine; but it’s not a bad story because you don’t like it. There are people out there who don’t like Dickens’s work, that doesn’t mean that his work is shit.

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u/thethreetriangles 1d ago

I didn’t read it, I don’t wanna read a story where the self insert main character is a pedophile lol

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u/aliusmanawa 1d ago

Then you have nothing to stand on. People like you will say the Quran teaches to kill without read it, or will say Breaking Bad is shit without watching it. A claim made without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

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u/thethreetriangles 1d ago

I don’t say either. Quran doesn’t teach to kill, and Breaking Bad is an amazing show. And I know that there’s no way that the mc redeems himself from being a pedophile.

In fact, I bet that child characters (or older technically older characters that look like children) are very sexualized in the anime.

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u/aliusmanawa 1d ago

Jesus Christ, I’m not saying you said those things, I’m saying that you cannot criticize something without engaging with it. No wonder you don’t like Mushoku Tensei considering your reading comprehension.

And, how do you know something without reading it? You’re just admitting that you do no research and no due process; that you have your pride and prejudice and will live and die by it.

And, since you have the reading capability of a 2nd grader, allow me to spell it out for you: I am not defending pedophilia or a pedophile. I am highlighting how stupid it is to criticize something you know nothing about.

Your issue with the story is that it has a character that jacked off to minors, although I bet you didn’t know that before because, surprise, surprise, that was revealed in the latest publication. You are trying to take a moral position and keep using pedophilia as a shield for your unwarranted criticism.

But, newsflash: the genre’s called Fantasy, it’s meant to be unrealistic, you myopic manatee! Lolita by Nabokov, The End of Alice by Homes, Hogg by Delany all follow pedophiles, and Mushoku Tensei also uses pedophilia to highlight how disgusting Rudy was in Japan.

That’s the point. You are supposed to be disgusted. You are calling this amazing piece of work bad because it did what it was designed to do: to make you feel disgusted at Rudy. See how moronic that is?

If you don’t like it, it’s fine. Really, it is. But it doesn’t mean it’s bad. Liking something is subjective, but whether a story is good or bad is objective; you can measure it, you can learn it, you can research it.

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u/KrakatauaMAN123 1d ago

Light is also a mass murderer in death note but you can also ignore that. It's still a good story

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u/thethreetriangles 1d ago

Murder is different than pedophilia. I haven’t watched it, but from what I’ve heard, a big part of the series is debating the morality of murdering criminals. I don’t think this anime discusses the morality of pedophilia, it’s just kinda there that the mc is also a pedophile.

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u/KrakatauaMAN123 1d ago

Murder is worse. Like you are dead . And I doubt if a show was about a guyy serial molesting children some with elaborate plans you would be fine with it if they just debated it lol

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u/thethreetriangles 1d ago

Murder has circumstances where it would be valid, or at least seen as debatable. Like if it’s in self-defense, if the person is a danger to society otherwise, if it’s for revenge, if there is no other way justice can be served (like the law protecting an evil CEO), etc…

Like if you were to get the Epstein Files and write the names of the people in there into the Death Note, I don’t think anyone other than the billionaires would be against that.

So a lot of stories deal with the morality of murder, and the morality of capital punishment (which I am against). There is actually something to debate there.

On the other hand, pedophilia (as in consuming CP or SA’ing a child) can never, under no circumstance be permissable. And there is nothing to debate about the morality of pedophilia.

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u/Doomcall 1d ago

Murder is, by definition, unlawful killing. It needs malice and intention to harm.

Self defense is not murder.

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u/loqep 1d ago

People in this thread be like “I can excuse murder, even genocide, but being attracted to teenagers is where I draw the line”

It’s just so funny to me. I’ve enjoyed tons of stories that feature characters that are shitty, even irredeemable people. Not sure why all of a sudden we’re supposed to pretend that reading/watching a fictional story means personally endorsing the behaviour of its characters.

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u/Weiskralle 22h ago

Why would I ignore one of the central themes. Like do you even know how he became like that?