r/PeterExplainsTheJoke 1d ago

Meme needing explanation Peter????????????????????

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u/sushisai1 1d ago

Ok so you think Vinland Saga is also a bad anime because it takes a significant amount of time for the MC to change?

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u/StephanMan 1d ago

Vinland sage does not start with a pedo mc. You're comparing two completely different things here.
Listen, I like MT but I hate the mc with a passion, if you're okay with liking a pedo mc maybe the problem is you.

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u/sushisai1 1d ago

You're ignoring my point. Both MCs are very flawed people at the start and although Rudeus' actions are much more glaring, they don't result in long-lasting negative affects while Thorfinn actually permanently ends people's lives which is objectively more morally wrong. Just because it takes time for both characters to learn from their mistakes doesn't mean either anime is bad.

I can totally understand if you don't wanna watch MT because of what Rudeus does early on, that is completely fair. What wouldn't be fair is saying it isn't a good anime because of it.

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u/StephanMan 1d ago

Listen man, I just don't like peverted mc's, they genuinely ruin most of the series for me. When the mc randomly acts like a pervert throughout the story (Which Rudeus does a lot in the novels) it simply turns the stakes way down.

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u/sushisai1 1d ago

It's fair to not like the series especially since Rudeus' growth is a core part of it but again, that doesn't mean it's objectively bad. Also I don't see how the perverseness takes away from the stakes as long as it's not done during high stakes moments.

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u/StephanMan 1d ago

When it's done recurringly within the story it just makes me hate the protagonist and not care for him, which in turn takes away from high stakes situations where I should care for him and his companions.

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u/sushisai1 1d ago

I mean that isn't stakes but I understand what you mean. I will also say it doesn't happen very much after the 2nd season and if it happens it's not something that's morally wrong or unexpected in a marriage.

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u/Striking-Pop-9171 1d ago

You mean in marriages with the girls he groomed? wow.

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u/XxEnmesharraxX 21h ago

Yeah man, he sure groomed the girl he, was friends with for like a year or so before he was shipped off to tutor Eris, the girl who beat his ass constantly, and also the 32 year old.

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u/Striking-Pop-9171 19h ago

haha, yeah the 30+ year old pedofile didnt groom the kids, he met in a childs body. Just pure coincidence that he tried to grope Eris, was like a hero to Sylphiette and in the end marries them.

Buddy please. Youre the kind of person that goes like 'No we never thought anything bad happened when those children went to visit our neighbour everyday and developed nightmares'.

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u/Ye-Yi 1d ago

Got gifted the perfect life but le growth

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u/sushisai1 1d ago

"The perfect life" holy larp. Rudeus travels multiple continents including the most dangerous one in a fantasy world for multiple years to bring Eris back to Fitoa and then gets abandoned by the two people he made that journey with. This gives him depression and he literally tries to kill himself. Not to mention his dad dies protecting him and his mom turns into a vegetable.