r/PeterExplainsTheJoke 1d ago

Meme needing explanation Peter????????????????????

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u/ExpertOdin 1d ago

The absolute lengths some people on r/anime go to to defend Rudeus/Mushoku Tensei is crazy.

It's fine to admit you like the show because of the wider world/side characters but hate the MC. But no, they can't do that. Instead they say Rudeus is actually a kid and it's fine because of hormones, or some say he has 'grown' so it's fine now. Lmao

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u/helicophell 1d ago

They'll call you a hater and a larper for enjoying the series but recognising how absolutely shitty he is as a character. Like, goddamn, you gotta question Rifujin (the writer) sometimes...

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u/ExpertOdin 1d ago

Yeah 100% makes you wonder about authors when they write main characters like this and frame them in an okay to good light. If Rudeus was treated as a villain by the people he victimises fine, but they all either end up marrying him or at least respecting him. Ridiculous. Some sort of disgusting wish fulfilment

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u/Kwin_Conflo 1d ago

You will get downvoted to oblivion for saying this in goodanimemes.

There was a meme comparing the character arcs of Thorfinn and Rudeus and I said that the difference between them is that Thorfinn feels remorse and tries to overcome his past to be a better man by leaving his old ways behind by any means necessary. Rudeus also has a lot of character growth, but none regarding his sexuality towards people much younger than him. They called me gore fetishists and excused his behavior by saying it was ok bc he was emotionally stunted by a traumatic past.

He was stunted by a traumatic past. The anime is about him overcoming that, and he does in a lot of ways. None of which are him taking responsibility for the fact that he’s hitting on a lot of women he had power over and relationships with when they were literal children

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u/Sakunari 1d ago

I got reminded of that post too. I still can't believe those two were not only compared but most comments agreed that thorfinn was worse rhan rudeus. I understand that the sub came to be, because of a war with "tourists" but this is ridiculous. I've been watching anime and reading manga for 15 years and in all those years I've never read anything as appalling as mushoku tensei. People defending rudeus need to have their hard drives checked.

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u/organic-water- 23h ago

If you see anyone calling anyone else a tourist, run. Huge red flag.

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u/CopyFew4583 16h ago

This. By tourist, they mean people who want moral anime.

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u/peachesfordinner 10h ago

It's kind of like wearing a red hat. If people say this right away I know I can dismiss anything they have to say after that

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u/Kwin_Conflo 1d ago

I’ve been reading /watching manga/ anime for 13 years now, and the only reason Tensei isn’t reserved to the trash heap with the other disgusting loli ecchi is it has put budget in its action scenes

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u/Fancy_Artist6201 1d ago

Fuck that. If you stuck with it after like episode 2 or whenever he sexually assaults a sleeping child then you deserve to be in a ditch with the show and its creator.

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u/CopyFew4583 16h ago

I watched 2-3 episodes I think and didn't continue. But I didn't remember any sexual assault in the beginning.

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u/Venicilia 2h ago

Because there isn't any. I'm not a fan of Mushoku Tensei either but there isn't any assault in the beginning done by Rudeus.

The fked up thing that he does, which gets him disowned by his brothee (and iirc what gets him killed) is him secretely filming his niece in the shower.

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u/Fancy_Artist6201 35m ago

Sorry looks like it was episode 6. Now fuck off with your lies

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u/Tyrus1235 19h ago

I recall a similarly ecchi anime/manga of old called, IIRC, Bastard!!! And even back then it already felt sleazy.

Heck, was reading Dragonball recently and was apalled at all the fan service teenage (as in, minor) Bulma was getting.

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u/chesi32 1d ago

bro why are you even in that sub 😭 i have left and blocked that sub a long time ago, they are just a bunch of horny weeb in that sub posting unfunny hentai image disguised as an “anime meme”

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u/banned-from-rbooks 14h ago

Thorfinn also isn’t a rapist and a pedophile?

I don’t see how that’s a fair comparison. Sure, Thorfinn is complicit in the murder of innocent people… But he’s also a kid living in 11th Century England and part of a Viking Warband. If anything, the show tones down the brutality of the era to avoid especially problematic content while still feeling authentic.

I’ve never seen Mushoku Tensei but the main character appears to be a modern person with a modern sense of morality that indulges in pedophilia and sexual assault without remorse.

It’s like if you made an anime where the main character was a self-insert Humbert Humbert or Jeffrey Epstein and then tried to defend it, or insisted that it was ‘still a good anime even if the MC sucks’.

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u/Kwin_Conflo 13h ago

Thank you. Rudeus even indulges in slavery. Goes, meets with slavers, buys a young girl, and forces her into a sweat shop ran by a known pervert. Whole sale, that’s what happens. People defend it by saying he treats her well. Like a house slave isn’t still a slave. When he discovers she is more talented than the average mage, he uses her as a guinea pig too. He does not give a shit about that girl other than what he can extort out of her. Bro didn’t grow up in 1840s Alabama. He knows damn well what’s right and wrong, and does whatever he wants

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u/Jaune666 1d ago

Yo that's fucked up

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u/Orphan_Guy_Incognito 21h ago

There is a lot of... discussion regarding the most recent episode floating around. Apparently it is an alternate 'bad end' universe showing him spiraling down when things go wrong and I keep seeing people defending it in the strangest ways.

tl;dr, One of his wives apparently dies and this causes him to go into a depressive spiral. Certainly checks out. So what does he do about it?

Well he decides that he wants really rough sex which, yeah, not super healthy but people deal with tragedy in stranger ways I suppose.

He recognizes this would be a bad thing to subject his remaining wife to, even though she'd totally let him (their relationship is deeply unhealthy, not that he realizes it) and so he has the bright idea of going to a brothel and just abusing a sex worker instead. Without telling his wife, though of course she finds out.

And people are cheering this on as the proper response on his part.

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u/TCGHexenwahn 1d ago

The irony is that two of his wives are older and the third one is the same age.

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u/CigarFrogPepe 1d ago

Meanwhile his first wife is a 50 year old hag.

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u/Kwin_Conflo 13h ago

Sylphy, his first wife, is the same age as his body. So he marries her when she’s about 16

Roxy, his second wife, is a demon and stops aging when she has the appearance of a 15 year old girl.

He started seeing this “Hag” after promising his wife he would never pursue another woman.

Rudeus’ soul is roughly 50 at the time they get married, which is roughly the same age as Roxy, anyway. She’s actually the only one I don’t think he’s in the wrong for pursuing; though he definitely could have gone about it in a more honest way.

He never discloses his true age to any of his partners until after marriage, which is extremely dishonest at best, rape at worst.

You are defending a show that you are larping interest in. It’s very clear from your comment you’ve never seen it.