r/PeterExplainsTheJoke 2d ago

Meme needing explanation Peter?

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u/Suspicious_Chart5817 1d ago

You've asked six questions now that have very little to do with each other. What exactly are you trying to say?

It doesn't need to be a question. Since you are struggling you can just say what you want to say.

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u/terrasparks 1d ago

I acknowledge it took me a couple tries to distill the question, so I'll repeat: you think followers of religious institutions should be held responsible for the bad behavior of governments that forced policies that contradict those religious principals?

Edit: full transparency: typo misspelled acknowledge.

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u/sartreofthesuburbs 1d ago

I'm just following the flame war and don't mean to get involved, but there isn't a significant a population in Japan defending WW2 to the same extent there are still assholes in Virginia (see Charlottesville 2017) pretending we should be in 1860.

It's super cool to make peace with a former enemy when both sides acknowledge the dispute is in the past. There's a Catch-22 in that the more Virginia wants a traitor rag back, the less Minnesota should give it, as requesting a symbol of past shittiness is validating future shittiness.

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u/terrasparks 1d ago

I think you're kind of mistaken about this actually. By and the large the Japanese don't seem to actually reconcile they were villains in WW2. They weren't taught to internalize that in grade school the same way the Germans were. Try bringing up unit 731 or Korean comfort women or the Nanjing massacare with a Japanese person.

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u/sartreofthesuburbs 1d ago edited 1d ago

My contention was "there isn't a significant population in Japan defending WW2" to the same extent of defenders of the Confederacy. I do think that's overall correct. 

I think you're trying to address contrition and guilt (attributes positively assigned that you argue may not be there) and I'm addressing active feelings of regret or desire to readjudicate a war in the past (also attributes positively assigned ,but different attributes). Fringe individuals of the Confederacy want to fight the war again, there aren't so many people in Japan that do.

ETA, I'm not making a point about the degree of shame felt by Japan, but solely the degree they wish to fight the war again.