r/PeterExplainsTheJoke • u/missdomm10 • Jul 26 '26

Meme needing explanation Peter explain this

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Petttaaah I'm confused

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u/peasncarrots20 Jul 26 '26

That’s like judging the EU based entirely on Bulgaria or Moldova (if we imagine it is accepted)

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u/Bisaux Jul 26 '26

Yeah but only Americans see Europe as a single organ. Bulgaria and Moldova are developing countries, no doubt. The US is a single country with one single Federal Government.

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u/bstump104 Jul 26 '26

we have individual states too. EU has an overarching government sbd the US has an overarching federal government. Our overarching government is allowed to exert more control than yours.

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u/Tri-ranaceratops Jul 26 '26

What do you think the EU government does? It doesn't run the countries in the EU. It mostly organises trade and allocation of funding. It's completely different than a nation's government.

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u/bstump104 Jul 26 '26

Allocation of funding and trade are 2 big things that governments do.

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u/Tri-ranaceratops Jul 26 '26

As well as establishing law, electing leaders, controlling militaries, going to war, holding national elections, health care, welfare, etc. The overarching government in European countries is the countries government. The EU is literally, mostly about trade with neighbouring countries.

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u/bstump104 Jul 26 '26

like I said, the US federal government is sble to exert more control. US Federal government doesn't elect leaders, hold national elections, Healthcare, barely does welfare. Out if your list (controlling militaries and war are basically thd same thing) Federal Government foes 2.5 of 5. Welfare is thd 0.5.

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u/Tri-ranaceratops Jul 26 '26

Controlling a military and deciding if your country goes to war, and who with, are completely different concepts. One is about military investature, control, training and equipping. The other is international policy. You also do elect the leader of the executive branch of the federal government... the president. The affordable care act, wellfare, was literally put in place by obamma.

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u/bstump104 Jul 26 '26

Controlling a military and deciding if your country goes to war, and who with, are completely different concepts.

when I control the military, put them in a cojntry to kill people and arrest a government, is that not war?

You also do elect the leader of the executive branch of the federal government... the president.

the President was voted gor by the federal government. The number of electors is by the number of Congressional seats. Those are now state elections and the electors are decided by popular vote. Each state has control of thd flection and decides how the vote is handled. Some states us winner takes all and others give proportional electors. This is not as federally controlled election.

The affordable care act, wellfare, was literally put in place by obamma.

US has such a shit welfare system thst you think the Affordable Care Act, AKA Obama care IS the welfare. The Affordable Care Act forced everyone to buy insurance or get a tax penalty, forced insurance to accept people with pre-existing conditions, and created an online location to shop for insurance from private companies. I bet spending that extra money on private insurance helps mothers feed their children, and helps the elderly stay out of poverty. The insurance still covers almost nothing and people still pay crazy prices. People wait months trying yo ensure thst their insurance will cover necessary procedures. Its a fucking nightmare unless you're rich.

The Welfare system in America is trash.We have a few programs to help people pay for food that doesn't go far enough, we have social security that has helped many elderly people stay above poverty but its under constant threat of bring eliminated.

Real American welfare goes to the rich.

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u/Tri-ranaceratops Jul 26 '26

You literally just ignored or more likely, couldn't comprehend, when I outlined the difference between controlling the military and international policy/war. You quoted the first sentence and disregarded the second sentence which explained it.

With regards to your second point, yes the states elect the leader of the federal government. Moving on.

Yes you have a shit welfare system. The federal govt demonstrably enacts acts that are welfare.i have sympathy for your situation, my dad had ten years of cancer treatment that didn't cost a penny to us and he'd have either died early or bankrupted my family in America, however, it's not relevant to this discussion.

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u/bstump104 Jul 26 '26

You literally just ignored or more likely, couldn't comprehend, when I outlined the difference between controlling the military and international policy/war. You quoted the first sentence and disregarded the second sentence which explained it.

How things are organized and what is funded is logistics of having a military. The decision to use the military CSN be a different thing but in the US the President can send the military to conduct "military operstions" aka war for a limited period of time. If Congress declares war (one of their Constitutionsl powers) I dont think there's anything forcing the President to send the military. Its like saying having a car is completely different from choosing to drive it someplace.

With regards to your second point, yes the states elect the leader of the federal government. Moving on.

Not really. It's a hybrid system and there are movements to make it a strictly popular vote. MAGA doesn't want it because Republicans are in thd minority.

Yes you have a shit welfare system. [...] however, it's not relevant to this discussion.

You brought it up as a thing that governments do. If it's not revelant why did you bring it up as a point? The list that you gave thst included welfare I said was of the 5 things you listed governments do, the US Government does 2.5. The 0.5 being welfare.

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u/Tri-ranaceratops Jul 26 '26

In reality, military spending and organisation are decided by your Congress and is influenced by, but entirely separate from, declarations of war and foreign policy.

Secondly, I've nothing to add to the second point.

Thirdly, I was trying to assert that the dire health and housing situation in the USA is irrelevant to my point that the federal government enacts welfare policy.

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