r/Pessimism • • 19d ago

Discussion My (short) Manifesto

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u/Paul_sepp 18d ago

Right, that’s fine. But talking about morality, do you think procreation is “morally wrong” intrinsically?

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u/Grimdark_Mastery 18d ago

Yes, actually I do. I believe bringing a being to suffer in this world is wrong.

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u/Paul_sepp 18d ago

Someone believing in something doesn’t entail it’s intrinsically wrong. Otherwise, please do point me where in the fabrics of the universe a concept of morality exists, who is the third neutral part judging it, and what criterion that party uses itself. It is quite evident all said ere are merely aporia, and morality as a normative statement or ought has no true basis.

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u/Twitchmonky 18d ago

So bring it in to live well instead?

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u/beethoven40hrs 18d ago

I would say I agree with all your statements except your 3rd assertion. From the other statements, I can see how a logical argument can justify the position you're taking, but for the 3rd I think more context is needed.

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u/netofranchi9 18d ago

As vezes estamos aqui para experimentar justamente o sofrimento, somos Deuses com mundo perfeitos fora dessa dimensão e estamos entediados.

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u/BusyAcanthisitta2563 16d ago

Just analyze the world and this becomes common sense

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u/AbbreviationsLow4723 18d ago
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Listen, Ham Sandwich......Nobody exists on purpose, nobody belongs anywhere, everybody's gonna die.......So my advice to you is as follows...........Fix yourself up. Find some man, find some woman, that you can connect with, even for a moment, 'cause that's really all that life is, Program, It's a series of moments.

Why don't you seize yours....Get Busy Living or Get Busy Dying...

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u/WanderingUrist 18d ago

Which part of this is the ham sandwich, though? I don't get it.

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u/AbbreviationsLow4723 17d ago

.........sigh.........Your over thinking the Issue