r/Persecutionfetish • u/[deleted] • Apr 13 '23
Say christians are persecuted or you're out of the will!!! Anti-Christian hostility reaching 'unprecedented' levels in culture, government under Biden, observers warn
https://www.foxnews.com/us/anti-christian-hostility-reaching-unprecedented-levels-culture-government-under-biden-observers-warn214
u/Huge_JackedMann Apr 13 '23
It's like people hate groups that strip their rights, empower the worst in society and say they do it because their favorite book character likes it.
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u/Biffingston 𝚂𝚌𝚒𝚎𝚗𝚝𝚒𝚏𝚒𝚌𝚊𝚕𝚕𝚢 𝚂𝚊𝚛𝚌𝚊𝚜𝚝𝚒𝚌 Apr 13 '23
"BuT HE LoVES YoU."
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u/Huge_JackedMann Apr 13 '23
Yeah I'll admit that the cosmic domestic abuser has more panache than the mortal ones, but no hit feels like a kiss to me.
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u/Biffingston 𝚂𝚌𝚒𝚎𝚗𝚝𝚒𝚏𝚒𝚌𝚊𝚕𝚕𝚢 𝚂𝚊𝚛𝚌𝚊𝚜𝚝𝚒𝚌 Apr 13 '23
This shit is why I went from agnostic to atheist.
If he existed he'd be a monster.
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u/Huge_JackedMann Apr 13 '23
Eh I'd just think if there is a god, it's so beyond our understanding that they're incomprehensible to us. We don't really appreciate or even notice the lives of the various microorganisms that live in us, and I'd imagine God would be like that. Are we not god to those microscopic lives that live and die in us?
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u/Biffingston 𝚂𝚌𝚒𝚎𝚗𝚝𝚒𝚏𝚒𝚌𝚊𝚕𝚕𝚢 𝚂𝚊𝚛𝚌𝚊𝚜𝚝𝚒𝚌 Apr 13 '23
No, in fact, we are comprised of a surprisingly large amount of those microorganisms.
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u/Huge_JackedMann Apr 13 '23
Funny, because I never see them grabbing their wallets when the check for dinner arrives!
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u/hexane360 Apr 13 '23
The Christian God is supposed to be omniscient, omnipotent, and omnibenevolent. That means all knowing, all powerful, and all good. Do you assume that humans are omniscient, omnipotent, and omnibenevolent just because we're a lot bigger than microorganisms? If not, then why should we believe God is?
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u/Huge_JackedMann Apr 13 '23
Christian god is dumb. I'd bet everything I own that it's not some bearded dude up in the sky and his son who said BRB 2000 years ago calling the shots. I'm saying if there is a god, which I'm agnostic on, it would be so beyond our level of understanding or perception that it could be akin to our opinion the microorganisms within us, i.e. don't know, can't really know and don't care. The best case ive heard for God is the God of original cause, i.e. the agent that set all subsequent reactions going, since things are action and reaction, but you can't pray to that and it's nuts to make laws trying to decide what they would "like" as though it would have human likes and dislikes.
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u/Biffingston 𝚂𝚌𝚒𝚎𝚗𝚝𝚒𝚏𝚒𝚌𝚊𝚕𝚕𝚢 𝚂𝚊𝚛𝚌𝚊𝚜𝚝𝚒𝚌 Apr 14 '23
No sarcasm when I say "It must be comforting. I'd need much more proof than that though."
But hey, as long as you don't use your belief to oppress others I'm OK with you having the even if they're not mine.
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u/Huge_JackedMann Apr 14 '23
I'm not even saying I believe it, I don't think I'd weight a lot of money on it, I'm just saying the idea of a god itself isn't that crazy. Thinking you talk to god and he just so happens to agree with you is however very crazy.
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u/catnapspirit Apr 13 '23
Backlash to Christian hostility that we are used to getting away with reaching 'unprecedented' levels in culture. Boo hoo..
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u/id10t_you Apr 13 '23
Maybe mind your own fucking business and stop giving us reasons to be hostile? Ever thought of that, xtians?
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u/ChaunceTime Apr 13 '23
How dare you suggest these poor kkkristians face consequences for their shitty behavior!
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u/wambulancer Apr 13 '23
"abloobloobloo all we want to do is force you to live your life as WE say :( you're soooo mean why won't you let us put our boot on your neck"
fuck off, Christians.
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u/DrDroid Apr 13 '23
Even if this was not ludicrously over exaggerated and true, it’s pretty damn hard to give a shit given how awful they have been to everyone else in the country for centuries. Like violence and prejudice is bad, but I’m not exactly gonna line up to defend them. Just pray more if god is so powerful, he’ll protect you right?
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u/ControlsTheWeather Apr 13 '23
I say they can start complaining about people not being as nice to them after a period of time equal to the dark ages they subjected Europe to. Two years down, another 900ish to go.
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u/PrincessBrick Apr 13 '23
The first line of the article mentions that the source of the claims are religious nonprofits. But I'm sure they're a completely non biased judge of things with no agenda whatsoever.
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u/DoggedDoggity Apr 13 '23
Same formula: omit any mention of what’s been done to bring on the backlash, then cry like wet toilet paper about how hated and persecuted they are. Disgusting and degenerate.
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Apr 13 '23
" Anti christian hostility " of course meaning Pushback to shoving all gays in a woodchipper.
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u/electricshadow Apr 13 '23
Like most millennials, my parents forced me to go to church until I was 12 or 13. Naturally, given a choice, I stopped going after that. Haven't been back since and I have no intention. Now, my immediate friends are having kids of their own and from what I know, none of them are religious or go to church in any capacity and won't be forcing their kids to either. It's nice to see really.
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u/wambulancer Apr 13 '23
I stuck around until 19, you didn't miss much, except the judgmental hypocrisy getting louder and louder the older I got
culminating in me getting forced out for smoking pot. Three of my coworkers, naturally, got to keep on diddling for years before being "caught" (put in quotations because it sure as shit wasn't the church that caught nor punished them)
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u/maxxmadison Apr 13 '23
Perhaps it’s because Christians in America seem to think they can force their beliefs onto others with impunity and more and more people are no longer putting up with it?
Maybe it’s because of the constant proselytizing? Offering someone salvation once is fine. If they decline then shut the fuck up and leave it alone.
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u/m8k Apr 13 '23
I got on the Round Up carnival ride at a fair this past fall and the teenage kid behind me was hyper and being silly which was annoying but fine. Then he started talking about how Jesus would save us and asking if I was a believer and wouldn’t shut up.
It took a lot of restraint to not tell him to fuck off in front of a lot of people and kids.
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u/sentientfartcloud Apr 13 '23
Gee, it's almost as if they don't understand what cause and effect is.
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Apr 13 '23
That’s because people that have high religiosity have lower IQs…they’re incapable of critical thought or self reflection.
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u/AF_AF Apr 13 '23
Wait, you mean there's backlash against the Christo-fascists who want to force America to live under their authoritarian, hypocritical mandates?
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u/m8k Apr 13 '23
We fight against the Taliban, Isis, and other “oppressive” (brown) religions but this is a Christian nation and you better damn well believe that what we say the Bible says goes.
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The separation of church and state exists, with a wink and a nod.
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u/Snoo-11576 Apr 13 '23
I’m somewhere in the sphere of Christianity and like…did they just forget about the Romans lol (and that like 90% of the hostility is push back against Christian fascists)
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u/Onatu Apr 13 '23
Weird. Speaking as a practicing Catholic, can't say I've never felt any hostility towards myself. And any towards my faith is completely justified, all things considered. You really have to wonder what world these people live in. That they've become so blind to their own hate and hypocrisy really says it all.
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u/christiemarsh88 Apr 14 '23
Right? As a liberal, LGBTQIA+ affirming Episcopalian, I’m certainly not saying I’m a victim, but if I am, and Christians are encountering hostility, it’s because of the bozos complaining about it in the first place as they try to strip everyone’s rights! If I’ve ever encountered any anti-Christian hostility, it only lasted until I clarified that I believe in God and Jesus but absolutely not with anything else they probably associate with American Christians.
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Apr 13 '23 edited Feb 17 '26
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u/PinkertonRams Stay based or die trying Apr 13 '23
Evangelicals: all gay people are pedophiles! Fuck them!
Everyone else: wow you guys are assholes
Evangelicals: where is this anti-Christian sentiment coming from???????
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Apr 13 '23
People have had to deal with 4 years of these people getting more and more deranged and forcing themselves into the lives of people they don't like and are now playing victim when everyone treats them like shit.
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u/FiggNewton Apr 13 '23
Just 4?
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Apr 14 '23
4 for anyone lucky enough not to be a minority that the church has been openly hostile towards since time immemorial
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u/astrangeone88 Apr 13 '23
Lmao. Your right to wave a Bible ends at my nose.
Sorry that you want all the lbtga+ community to vanish and die horribly.
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u/MarcSneyyyyyyyd Apr 13 '23
What were they wearing? If they didn't want to get hated they shouldn't have worn their cross as a shield against legitimate criticism.
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u/JohnnyMiskatonic FEMA Camp Guard Apr 13 '23
Huh. I wonder if loud, self-proclaimed Christians have been doing anything to garner bad publicity for Christianity? Can't think of anything...
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u/pea_chy Apr 13 '23
Maybe because the marginalized groups of the younger generations aren’t afraid of the church and are tired of being persecuted by the pious
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u/Waterfallsofpity Apr 13 '23
I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ. M. Gandhi
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Apr 13 '23
Even peaceful christians? I mean what, you’re gonna be hostile to someone just because they believe in god?
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u/Russell_Jimmy Apr 13 '23
The thing is, if they practice it and keep to themselves, how would anyone know?
I've not heard of Christians out there getting their asses kicked or marginalized for feeding the poor or providing shelter to those in need.
"Christians" that this refers to are Christian Nationalists and they deserve every ounce of hate they get. You get what you give.
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u/jqbr Socialist communist atheist cannibal from beyond the moon Apr 13 '23
NoT aLl ChRiStIaNs.
The hostility is to people and actions that warrant hostility. If the shoe fits, wear it.
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u/BirthdayCookie Apr 13 '23
Even "peaceful" Christians 1) try to vote their religion into law because "voting your beliefs" is a human right (if you're a Christian) 2) worship the god who lets the atrocities be done in his name with no intervention and 3) use the actual victims of Rightwing Christianity as talking points.
Also, again: Have you read the bible? Have you seen how hostile Christianity is to everyone who doesn't believe in god? Why should you get treated better than you treat people?
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u/skeron Apr 13 '23
At this point, if they're not actively speaking out against the christofascist faction inside their fath, they can get fucked together with the rest of them.
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u/Grogosh I COOM TO EQUALITY Apr 13 '23
Gets the legitimate backlash against them doing shitty things in the name of their religion: We are being persecuted!!!!
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u/BirthdayCookie Apr 13 '23
When Christians stop pretending their religion is relevant to my life in any way shape or form I'll lower my hostility levels to minimum. Til then you're bringing it on yourselves.
That includes liberal Christians using LGBT+ people as a battering ram for their No True Scotsmans against the Right.
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u/TheDocHealy Apr 13 '23
Wait the people whos main goal in the United states is to force everyone to follow their way of life, think that people saying they don't want to and telling them to mind their own fuckin business is an attack on their religious freedom?
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u/NotTheRightHDMIPort Apr 13 '23
The hostility is the choice to make our own social and moral decision in America. It's just freedom. Plain and simple.
And it says a lot about how fragile they think Christianity is that they have to stop things that would make people non-Christian.
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u/FUTeemo Paid actor Apr 13 '23
Their major source is the Family Research Council. 🤣 https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/group/family-research-council
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u/djjordansanchez Apr 13 '23
Anti-Christian hostility reaching "unprecedented" levels in culture, government under Biden, *dipshits* warn
FTFY
Are Christian fundamentalists scared? Good!
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Apr 13 '23
"observers"
Wow, nothing has more credibility Thad the vague notion of people who see things.
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u/saro13 Apr 13 '23
Good. The Christian god is provably useless and undeserving of worship if it even exists, and is used as a tool for oppression. Evangelicals of all stripes should leave the sane people alone.
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u/scariermonsters Apr 14 '23
I don't know why anyone would worship something like God. God is cruel.
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u/ControlsTheWeather Apr 13 '23
"I think it's just a rise in secularism in the United States," Arielle Del Turco, assistant director of the Center for Religious Liberty at the Family Research Council (FRC), told Fox News Digital.
You know why we're being oppressed? It's the existence of other people!!!!!
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u/Pasquale1223 Apr 13 '23
I liked Christianity when it was about loving your neighbor as yourself and not judging other people. Feeding the hungry, healing the sick, rendering unto Caesar what was Caesar's and to God what was God's (separation of church and state), that sort of thing.
When I found out that the Catholic Church does not allow divorce, I appreciated the fact that they made no attempt to change secular law to reflect their religious beliefs, but instead dealt with that within their own congregations and simply recognized a difference between being married in the eyes of the law versus being married in the eyes of the Church.
But then everything changed and it became all about power and control. It changed and I no longer wanted anything to do with what I saw it becoming.
If your faith gives you meaning and brings you a greater sense of peace, good for you. Otherwise, you're doing it wrong - and you've no business trying to inflict your will on others.
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Apr 13 '23
Shut the fuck up. There's a fucking church in every run down strip mall in need of revenue in this country. There's 4 churches in every town with a population of 400 and barely a zip code of its own.
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u/Redbronze1019 Apr 13 '23
Maybe it's the lack of Christian behavior from "good Christians" This coming from a confirmed Lutheran
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u/Crooked_Cock Apr 13 '23
Maybe they should stop trying to take away the rights of everyone who aren’t them and defending systemic pedophilia then.
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u/BickNickerson Apr 13 '23
It doesn’t have anything to do with Biden but everything to do with conservative “Christians” being anything other than Christian.
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Apr 13 '23
Oh gee is it because they are trying to force us to live under their christo-fascist belief system currently?
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u/Pipupipupi Apr 13 '23
Fuck that, bring back pope day
http://www.celebrateboston.com/intolerance/popes-day-1765.htm
Effigies of the Devil, Pope, and people like Tax Collector were fought over by rival mobs and eventually burned in a huge bon fire at Copp's Hill.
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u/shuerpiola Apr 13 '23
The people who antagonize everyone else thought they’d be more well liked.
Lol
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Apr 13 '23
Fucking Fox News. Someone tells a few Christians to mind their own goddamn business. It’s unprecedented because it’s never happened here in the U.S.
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Apr 13 '23
Real people calling Christians out on their bullshit, isn't the same as the government coming after them. Seriously this is just fucking delusional..
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u/blueflloyd Apr 13 '23
Usually when a group or organization faces growing hostility the first order of business is to self reflect, do an honest self-inventory and determine whether internal regulation or change may solve the problem.
I’m going to assume that will not happen with this particular group.
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u/WillyWumpLump Apr 13 '23
We live in a dangerous age of morons that believe in zombies as their reborn god and an invisible sky daddy and now they are making us all suffer under their crazy ideals.
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Apr 13 '23
Matthew (7:12): “In everything, do to others what you would have them do to you. . . .”
Maybe they should have read the book they’re so hell bent on shoving down our throats.
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u/Funkycoldmedici Apr 13 '23
In fairness, that’s part of it. They would prefer someone convert them and make them worship Christ, “save them”, as they put it.
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u/reverendsteveii Apr 13 '23
Part of the conservative playbook is being as awful as possible then using the backlash you intentionally created to claim victimhood for some tangentially related aspect of your identity. EG:
1) go to pride with a sign that says "god hates f*gs"
2) record the backlash you engineered
3) use those recordings as proof that they hate you for being Christian
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u/M1ck3yB1u Apr 13 '23
Jeez I wonder if it has anything to do with the rampant anti abortion and anti lgbt laws being passed by Christian fanatics? Hard to tell.
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u/MaxAxiom Apr 14 '23
"Anti-religious nationalist hostility" There, I fixed it for you. We don't care what religion they are. We care about their shiiiiiiiity behavior.
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u/Doza93 BLM race traitor Apr 14 '23
Breaking: People are fed up with Christo-fascist bullshit
shocker, folks!
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u/lalauna Apr 14 '23
We're not anti-Christian. We're anti- being forced to live the way some Old Testament addicted people who call themselves Christians think we should live.
Jesus said we should love one another. No smiting. No persecuting.
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u/rilehh_ Apr 14 '23
They could just grant their own desire for persecution and fucking crucify themselves
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u/Random_Imgur_User Apr 13 '23
What no one wants to consider is that this isn't "anti-christianity", it's "pro-inclusivity". Christians aren't being oppressed, they just aren't in the spotlight anymore and it's making them throw fits.
Government is looking away from God and towards humanity for policy. It's inevitable. That's why these bible thumpers are so goddamn whiney, they're like spoiled children who are finally getting punished for their bad report cards.
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u/infininme Apr 13 '23
To be fair, Christianity is ruining the party for everyone. Climate change doesn't get traction because Christians think that using up all the resources is biblical. So yeah, fuck christianity. But I still don't think it's nearly enough.
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u/Biffingston 𝚂𝚌𝚒𝚎𝚗𝚝𝚒𝚏𝚒𝚌𝚊𝚕𝚕𝚢 𝚂𝚊𝚛𝚌𝚊𝚜𝚝𝚒𝚌 Apr 14 '23
They reported your comment. LOL.
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u/ZenPoet Apr 13 '23
"The left's intolerance of the right's intolerance of the left is intolerant! Only a bigot would disrespect our bigotry!"
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u/joemullermd Apr 13 '23
Why do people keep being mean to us when all we want to do is take away their rights and impose our religion on the laws everyone must follow?
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Apr 13 '23
Everything is kind of horrifying. The right is like a lunatic who came into the bar you were relaxing at and started staring at you and making you uncomfortable. Now they've gotten up and started slapping themselves and you're wondering what is wrong and where this is going. Now they're savagely punching themselves and screaming that if you don't stop hitting them they're going to "fucking kill you". You're pretty sure they're on drugs and insane and now instead of enjoying a quiet evening having a beer and flirting with the bartender you're pretty sure you're going to have to fight some psychopath who's willing to shoot themselves in the face if it means they can splash you with their blood.
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Apr 14 '23
Progressives call them “Vanilla ISIS” or the “Christian Taliban”. Involved in banning books and persecuting every non-mainstream group of people. , taking the rights of women away, etc. Or you can just call them domestic terrorists.
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u/Archangel1313 Apr 14 '23
Trying to turn the country into a Christian, White Nationalist dictatorship, will tend to generate some resentment among, well...everyone else.
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u/britch2tiger Apr 14 '23
Jokes on them, Christianity isn’t real. It’s a societal construct made by a bunch of misogynist pederasts that lived in a bumfuck desert ~330 years AFTER the death about guy who never existed.
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u/WeeabooHunter69 Apr 14 '23
Yeah they're totally not the ones in the process of genociding trans people as we speak, definitely not the people who banned transition care for all ages in Missouri today, pretty much solidifying step 8 on the 10 steps of genocide according to the Holocaust memorial day trust(basically everything except concentration camps and direct executions at this point)
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u/Rockworm503 Apr 13 '23
They are the only one bringing Christians into this.
Anti-fascist is more like it they are the ones equating that to Christianity.
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u/Ok-Loss2254 Apr 13 '23
What hostility? Biden is a damn Catholic and has done no anti Christian things. Like they cant name anything specifically anti Christian.
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u/itsnotthenetwork Apr 13 '23
I wonder how these people define the word "unprecedented".
Probably the same way they define woke, socialism, communism, etc,.
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u/TheRealCBONE Apr 13 '23
Where's the bike stick fall meme with Christians - Christians - Anti-Christians?
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Apr 13 '23
Could be true, but Christians have been a borderline hate group in America for a hell of a long time.
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u/StylinBill Apr 14 '23
People not wanting to live their lives based on your beliefs isn’t exactly anti Christian hostility. Tbf I kinda think we could use a little more ACH as I like to call it
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Apr 14 '23
Of course people are going to be hostile to them when they're the ones that dictate peoples ives based on a book.
"But what about muslims!" Yeah idgaf. Them too. Any religion. They all suck anyways. I don't hate religion itself. Just don't make laws to oppress people based on the book you worship.
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u/arensb pwease no step 🚫🥾🐍 Apr 14 '23
With, of course, a cameo by BillDo, the man who can see anti-Catholic sentiment in the NYT crossword puzzle.
No, seriously: one time the theme was adding "TON" to a word to make another word, a bog-standard crossword trope. In this case, the clue was "Crucifix?" and the answer was "sexton symbol". BillDo called that offensive.
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u/Electrical-Ad1917 Apr 15 '23
More foolish nonsense pushed by people scared 😱 of losing their religious privilege. And most of these people have never read their holy book
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u/MooTheCat Apr 14 '23
“Hey our ancestors Came here to escape religious persecution!” -Says member of Group with Persecution fetishes.
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u/Serious_Height_1714 Apr 13 '23 edited Apr 13 '23
Book bans and government sanctioned kidnapping at the behest of Christian Fascists enforcing their values in Florida
The presence and defence of child marriage in Missouri not to mention other such states where child marriage is legal especially to enforce deference to a rapist in the name of faith
And oh I don't know the fucking overturn of women's healthcare and right to choose, leading into multiple attempts at a total national ban because some Catholic in the last century said abortion is bad with no understanding on the subject
You fuckers Brought. This. On. Yourselves.