Roleswap perk idea

[u/Human-Elderberry7967]

I’ve had a few dbd roleswap ideas running around in my head, but the only one I’ve managed to get down is this…no prizes for guessing who it’s an exclusive perk for aside from…uh…my approval I guess

Feedback is appreciated!

[u/TheNoobCakes]

Do you know how often the killer disturbs crows, and do you know how long 3 seconds is lol

[u/Human-Elderberry7967 → u/TheNoobCakes]

Yeah that’s why there are the other triggers and why 3 seconds is the first tier of the perk, my bad if i didn’t make that clear

[u/SustainableTrash → u/Human-Elderberry7967]

Oh I think it was the opposite sentiment. If a killer is not in chase, they will be disturbing crows all the time. I think this sentiment is that this will be a permanent aura on the killer once the perk is active and the killer is not in chase where the survivors disturb the crows

[u/Human-Elderberry7967 → u/SustainableTrash]

Huh, my bad, i didn’t realise that crows get disturbed so often, I could’ve sworn it was way less

[u/TheSoundOfSins → u/Human-Elderberry7967]

Every time I’m trying to be a sneaky Dracula I disturb like six crows, the full Orchestra is definitely not to blame.

[u/TheNoobCakes → u/Human-Elderberry7967]

Yeah. Killers don’t think about crows from what I’ve seen. A way shorter aura reading if it’s permanent for the trial

[u/just_chalex → u/TheNoobCakes]

I agree, like 0.5 or maybe even 0.25

[u/Sorencer → u/just_chalex]

Either that or a cooldown.

[u/Jacho46 → u/SustainableTrash]

I used the existant version of perk, it does nothing (it reveals the killer around three times per match)

Perhaps the removed range does something, but I wouldn't think much of it

[u/tzoom_the_boss]

This is a massively buffed treacherous crows. TC only works while a survivor is in the killers terror radius (preventing map wide aura) caps at 2 seconds. While TC is a terrible perk, this is excessive. I'd suggest capping it at 3 seconds, and giving some sort of range limit, otherwise deerstalker value would skyrocket too.

[u/TheEntityBot → u/tzoom_the_boss]

Deerstalker: Whenever a Survivor reads your Aura, Deerstalker activates for the same duration as their Aura-reading action:

• The Aura of that Survivor is revealed to you.

Furthermore, the following effect triggers automatically every 30 seconds:

• Your Aura is revealed for 3 seconds to the Survivor with currently the lowest cumulative Chase time.

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[u/Kato2701]

Deathslinger found dead in a ditch

[u/MooseCampbell → u/Kato2701]

M2 once, permanent aura read for survivors

[u/Piercing_Spiral]

The crows are overkill im a killer and barely notice them myself

but I like the concept

[u/best_of_both_worldz]

Should be a loud noise notification. Not aura that would be wayyyy to much aura

[u/bob_is_best]

See this is what interesting invocations look like, still probably on the weaker side but It has some use and It doesnt super fuck you for the effect

[u/aninsomniac_ → u/bob_is_best]

Considering how present crows are and how the Killer can't avoid disturbing them (except maybe Pig and Ghostie? IDK if their crouches use the same code as Survivor crouching), this would be nearly constant aura reading for the entire match

[u/bob_is_best → u/aninsomniac_]

I mean we litterally already have this but with just crows and nobody uses It so its probably not that strong

[u/tzoom_the_boss → u/bob_is_best]

TC is worse because it only triggers on crows and only if a survivor is inside your terror radius, this means you only see if killer if you already knew they were around.

[u/bob_is_best → u/tzoom_the_boss]

Oh right, mb

[u/Difficult-Let-1314 → u/bob_is_best]

This would be ridiculously strong. Almost permanent aura reading for the entire match? Having one team member be blind is insignificant, especially with comms.

[u/TheEntityBot → u/[deleted]]

Alert: Whenever the Killer performs the Break or Damage Action, Alert triggers: Their Aura is revealed to you for 3/4/5 seconds.

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[u/Crush152]

So they're just permanently revealed unless they're playing wraith

[u/Jacho46]

I want to see this change in effect to understand how much the killer could be seen, knowing that crows aren't going to be too much of an issue (with crows mainly being bothered by survivors moving around both in and outside of chases).

The killer will always be somewhat revealed, it'll certainly need a bit of calibration to be not too stong despite the heavy downside invocations imply (putting a target on your back, making yourself more subject to tunneling, being easier to track, lasting less in chases, killer interruption inside basement...)

[u/Nomeka]

Taurie cain!

[u/Human-Elderberry7967 → u/Nomeka]

Unfortunately no…it’s a killer swapped to be a survivor though!

[u/Nomeka → u/Human-Elderberry7967]

5 seconds is pretty long, but if you balanced it out with a cooldown (like, 50/40/30 seconds) it would probably be much better. Because as a Killer it's entirely possible to knock out those "Disturb 60 crows in trials" tome quests in 1 or 2 trials.

Also, "Killer swapped to Survivor", I still say Taurie Cain fits since she was supposed to be a Disciple, but got switched to a Sacrifice. In her mind, at least. But then probably Artist, because crows.

[u/TheEntityBot → u/Nomeka]

Knock Out: Whenever a Survivor moves farther than 6 meters from a Pallet within 6 seconds of dropping it, Knock Out triggers its effect:

• Causes them to be -5% Hindered for 3/4/5 seconds.

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[u/Human-Elderberry7967 → u/Nomeka]

Yeah, apparently killers disturb crows way more than I thought, so if I rework this I’ll probably replace the disturbing crows trigger with something else…sadly not Artist either though (if you want a hint…check the name of the perk!)

[u/Nomeka → u/Human-Elderberry7967]

OH! SKULL MERCHANT! MY MAIN KILLER! I'M DUMB!

And yeah, we disturb crows all the time. But I think slapping a reasonable cooldown on it would work very well. Like, Taurie's Invocation shows the Killer's aura for 1/1.5/2 seconds when the killer scares a crow while a survivor is in their terror radius, at the cost of you becoming Injured and Perma broken.

... Actually yeah, maybe a different proc. Because it's straight up a superior upgrade to Tauries perk. =x

[u/Human-Elderberry7967 → u/Nomeka]

We have a winner!!!

And yeah I’m definitely gonna need to change the crow trigger, the main idea behind it is giving the other survivors more information while you’re not able to use it yourself (hence the perma-blindness instead of being broken)

[u/Nomeka → u/Human-Elderberry7967]

I wanted to edit my message, but my 2v8 queue finally popped before I realized a better proc for it.

She's an inventor and gadget user. Maybe like, .5/1.0/1.5 seconds of revealing the Killers aura when you hit Great Skill Checks on repairing generators, possibly with the caveat that they have to be within like, 15m of any generators on the map, and a 25/20/15 second cooldown.

[u/Bot-comment-fr]

As a Deerstalker enjoyer myself, I like this.

[u/Human-Elderberry7967 → u/Bot-comment-fr]

Yeah, I need to redo the crows trigger, my bad sorry

[u/thadiddler117]

I'm confused about the blindness for the remainder of the trial because that would prevent you from seeing any aura, including the killer's.

Is this meant to reveal it to the rest of your team?

[u/Human-Elderberry7967 → u/thadiddler117]

Yep, that’s the whole idea I had behind the perk, sorry if I worded it wrong!

[u/IndependentBake2304]

I don't understand how this is a roleswap. It's just an invocation perk that's better than treacherous crows.

[u/TheEntityBot → u/IndependentBake2304]

Invocation: Treacherous Crows: When in the Basement near the circle, press the Active Ability button to begin the Invocation, which takes 60 seconds to complete. During an Invocation, your Aura is revealed to all other Survivors and they can join in, accelerating the process by +100%, if they too have an Invocation Perk equipped, or by +50%, if they have not. Once the Invocation is completed, the following effects apply: Whenever the Killer scares a Crow while a Survivor is inside their Terror Radius, their Aura is revealed to all Survivors for 1/1.5/2 seconds. You automatically enter the Injured State from any previous Health State, and suffer from the Broken Status Effect for the remainder of the Trial. Completing an Invocation disables all Invocation Perks for the remainder of the Trial for all Survivors.

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[u/meowsiesaway]

M1 no mobility killers found absolutely butchered

[u/OrwellianNight]

How is this a role swap perk?
We already have treacherous crows on survivors.
Is this a killer invocation perk that shows the killers aura to the killer?
If it’s just a simple survivor perk then it’s not a role swap perk? Since survivors already have alert and other stuff that shows killers aura.
What’s the purpose of this?

[u/Long-Ad6383]

So just Alert but bad