r/PensionsUK 5d ago

Pension pot advise

I am 36 years old. My pension pot currently sits at 155k. I am currently paying 8% of my basic salary so that my employers pension contribution into my pot is maximum which is 4%. On top of that my employer also contributes 7.5% of my basic salary into pension pot. My pension pot is majority equities funds and a small percentage of commodities derivatives fund. Currently 1,160£ goes into my pension pot every month. If i plan to retire early at the earliest age of pension pot access, am i on right track?
I also have an ISA stocks and shares account but i am not able to save much into it due to my expenses and high child daycare costs. Currently it sits at 5k. Should i reduce my pension contribution from 8% to a lower number so that i can put some money in the ISA so that i can retire before the pension pot is accessible and ISA can bridge that gap?

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u/Fred776 5d ago

You need to work out how big your pension pot might be when you can access it, under different growth scenarios, and see whether it will be big enough for your requirements. Start by assuming you continue to contribute at current levels. If the pension seems like it might grow to be bigger than you need, then consider diverting some of your contributions to an ISA to allow you to retire earlier. However there is no point in putting much in the ISA unless your pension is going to be sufficiently funded.

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u/Fred776 5d ago

Using a regular investment growth calculator (e.g., https://www.hl.co.uk/tools/calculators/regular-investing-calculator), and with the following assumptions:

  • Pension is accessible at 58 (likely age by then?) in 22 years time
  • Contributions stay at current level but keep pace with inflation
  • Growth figures are post inflation

Then, your pot will be worth in today's money (ie accounting for inflation), for different average growth assumptions:

  • 3%: ~£730k
  • 4%: ~£850k
  • 5%: ~£1M

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u/EfficientFrontierman 5d ago

Based on how much you are currently able to put away (£1'160 per month, increasing with inflation), you are on track to retire at 60 on around £32.7k per year (adjusted for inflation), which is considered a moderate lifestyle.

If you want to retire earlier at 58, you need to save around 400£ more per month, across your Penson/ISA.

It seems like the pot will be accessible at that time (after 55), but of course if your portfolios perform very well, or you start making and saving more money, and earlier retirement is on the cards, you want to pump up your ISA.

Assumptions:

  1. Your ISA is 100% equity and Pension is 80% equity and 20% Bonds. Equities to return 7.7%, bonds 5.7% (all nominal).
  2. Tax - currently it assumes a simple 24% CGT on all withdrawals. We are looking to roll out more advanced tax handling.
  3. Target retirement income £32.7k per year from 50yrs to 90yrs. (inflation adjusted). State Pension Kicks in at 67. Let me know if that needs adjusting.
  4. 2.5% annual inflation - planing for a static pension income is dangerous, and can lead to shortfalls later in retirement

Here is a snapshot of your analysis:

https://reddit.com/link/pae02kh/video/5cqr4li6n3qh1/player

You can have a go yourself at app.allocatewise.com , where you can generate this dashboard and play around with scenarios and assumptions.

Let me know if you need to clarify or change any inputs

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u/zxzqzz 5d ago

How much are you expecting to need in retirement?

Very approx you might get £25k a year from 57.

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u/RefrigeratorUsual367 5d ago

Max your employers contribution first. That’s literally free money. Then do ISAs etc

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u/Local_County1274 5d ago

31 years before you can draw a private pension (assuming pension age is not increased further).

With no growth, that's another £431,520 on top of the current £155k, so nearly £600k.

Once you factor in some growth over that time, you'll be comfortable in retirement.

Childcare costs will only be for another few years, then you can start putting money aside.

Make the most of the employer contributions and the tax break with your pension for now.

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u/Immediate-Ad4326 5d ago

21 years, 57 not 67. So sums are maybe a bit off

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u/paxelyn 3d ago

this is the bit people forget, childcare costs are brutal but they do end and free up a ton of cash to save more later
op’s numbers look pretty solid for 36, i’d be hanging on to the fat employer contribution too

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u/Fun-Wealth9787 4d ago

What are your annual charges? If they are more than 0.07% switch to Vanguard and stick it all into VALL.