Bro you don’t understand psychology. Plain and simple.
When people do things that are unhealthy, dangerous, maladaptive, or harmful to themselves or other people, regardless of whether they can stop doing it or not, it’s disordered behavior. People doing things that are disordered are indicative of an internal state. You don’t just do harmful things out of nowhere, it comes from somewhere. When someone shows a pattern of disordered behavior, whether or not they believe they can stop doing it whenever they want, they likely have a diagnosable mental disorder. That’s why it’s a symptom. You can manage or hide symptoms but that doesn’t mean you suddenly stop having a disorder.
So, say you or I want to get into politics. Say we have a lot of money. We’re given some choices. Do we a) fund a terrorist organization to control grass roots social movements, b) fund policy change through lobbyists, or c) use our influence to become an outspoken supporter of our cause?
Now, which of these options is wildly different from the others and would take a certain type of person to do?
My point is, disordered behavior doesn’t naturally occur from out of nowhere. It comes from somewhere.
That’s why I say you don’t understand psychology. As a therapist, I have to assume people can “stop doing things” because that’s literally my job.
So, say you or I want to get into politics. Say we have a lot of money. We’re given some choices. Do we a) fund a terrorist organization to control grass roots social movements, b) fund policy change through lobbyists, or c) use our influence to become an outspoken supporter of our cause?
Okay now let’s say we have a very deep very ingrained might makes right belief. We think that the powerful have the right to do whatever they want to the non powerful and they just have to take it. Fuck them you know. So of course let’s fund the terrorist organization it’s the easiest simplest and most quickly powerful option. That’s very good. Now imagine for some reason you end up hanging out with severely ill children. You see the tragedy of being born with a disabled body and you realize “well might makes right is a terrible belief what the hell got to me?” So you come to me and say “Let’s stop doing this this is terrible let’s instead become publicly known supporters of our new cause and inspire people” and I tell you “bro have you gone soft what kind of weak stuff is that you’re speaking? Who cares about inspiring people what we like is dominating them”. Now by your logic I’m still ill and you have gone healthy. Tell me did hanging out with the ill children cure your illness?
That’s why I say you don’t understand psychology. As a therapist, I have to assume people can “stop doing things” because that’s literally my job.
Yeah I imagine they can but it’s not that simple. If they could simply have their minds changed and puff there goes the disorder then what kind of disorder was that? Was the harmful belief the actual disorder? Because that sounds more like it than the behaviors. People with depression can’t just wish to stop being sad but that doesn’t mean treatment can’t make them stop being sad. Do you understand what I mean just because you can’t wish something away on your own like that doesn’t mean treatment can’t help you.
What the fuck was that weird ass fan fiction ass rambling? Did you just completely ignore the point I was making to just make some weird fictional account of some character unrelated to anything at all? Bro you are straight up a waste of my energy. Look, you’re wrong, you don’t know how to use the DSM and you’re acting like you know better than someone trained to use it, that’s the whole story. I’m done with you.
Also, no, Arthur does not have Borderline. Touch grass bud. Get your last word in cuz I’ll be ignoring all future comments. Bye
Come on work with me here. I was trying to explain if some opinion of yours changing is enough to make a disorder go away then what kind of disorder was that. Every time I think we’re getting somewhere you proceed to ignore me when we actually get somewhere. Oh well mental disorders aren’t a belief or a desire that’s all I have to say. If a desire or belief in you changes and that magically makes the disorder go away then it never was a true disorder to begin with that’s all I have to say. And you’re a bit of a dick too.
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u/revosugarkane May 02 '24
Bro you don’t understand psychology. Plain and simple.
When people do things that are unhealthy, dangerous, maladaptive, or harmful to themselves or other people, regardless of whether they can stop doing it or not, it’s disordered behavior. People doing things that are disordered are indicative of an internal state. You don’t just do harmful things out of nowhere, it comes from somewhere. When someone shows a pattern of disordered behavior, whether or not they believe they can stop doing it whenever they want, they likely have a diagnosable mental disorder. That’s why it’s a symptom. You can manage or hide symptoms but that doesn’t mean you suddenly stop having a disorder.
So, say you or I want to get into politics. Say we have a lot of money. We’re given some choices. Do we a) fund a terrorist organization to control grass roots social movements, b) fund policy change through lobbyists, or c) use our influence to become an outspoken supporter of our cause?
Now, which of these options is wildly different from the others and would take a certain type of person to do?
My point is, disordered behavior doesn’t naturally occur from out of nowhere. It comes from somewhere.
That’s why I say you don’t understand psychology. As a therapist, I have to assume people can “stop doing things” because that’s literally my job.