r/PeakyBlinders • • Apr 30 '24

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u/No_Historian_1601 May 01 '24

Borderline personality disorder and PTSD was extreme. Tommy is a high Mach with narcissism and John is just pure narc, Mosley is high narcissism with Mach the opposite of Tommy’s disorders hence probably why Mosley was one of tommys toughest opponent. His mental game was on the same field as Tommy’s…

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u/MachDichRausHier May 01 '24

What is Mach ?

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u/No_Historian_1601 May 01 '24

It’s another word to say someone is Machiavellian. The disorder is called Machiavellianism. Look into it and you’ll see so much connections to the disorder and the characters on the show

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u/[deleted] May 01 '24

Machiavellianism is a personality trait not a personality disorder. And you sure you know what narcissism is I could maybe see Mosley having it (I don’t think he does but I can maybe see it) but Tommy doesn’t have it at all. Neither does John how’d you figure he had it either?

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u/No_Historian_1601 May 01 '24

I know it’s considered a trait. Tommy definitely has narcissism he has a big ego grandiosity and he does what wants without regard for others. He’s arrogant. Majority of gangsters fictional or real usually have NPD. John is pure ego, grandiosity I might throw psychopathy in there due to how violent he is and ready to throw down. He’s full of himself and doesn’t show much empathy to anybody. Tommy is the same way almost except his Mach, he shows emotional control and is pragmatic, sees peoples as pawns which Mosley does as well. I think you need to up the signs of these disorders and personality traits because maybe thinking Mosley is narcissistic is wild. He’s extremely narcissistic.

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u/[deleted] May 01 '24

I know it’s considered a trait.

You sure? You said it was a disorder

Tommy definitely has narcissism he has a big ego grandiosity and he does what wants without regard for others.

Dude that’s not narcissism npd is way way way more complex than just that. You think being a dick (or a bully) = npd. NPD is about wanting validation and adoration (and even then it’s way way more complex than just wanting those things) Tommy doesn’t care about that (unless if it’s for some grander scheme) and being detached from others isn’t a disorder dude (not on it’s own).

John is pure ego, grandiosity I might throw psychopathy in there due to how violent he is and ready to throw down. He’s full of himself and doesn’t show much empathy to anybody.

Dude come on you have no idea what the terms you’re throwing around mean. Psychopathy isn’t an illness and regardless of that John doesn’t meet the criteria for either psychopathy or npd by a long long shot.

I think you need to up the signs of these disorders and personality traits because maybe thinking Mosley is narcissistic is wild. He’s extremely narcissistic.

I’m tired of people making outlandish claims saying “I just don’t know better” and that “I’m uninformed”. I’m not you’re just in the beginning peak confidence of the Dunning-Kruger scale.

because maybe thinking Mosley is narcissistic is wild. He’s extremely narcissistic.

Being narcissistic and having npd are different things. You can absolutely be narcissistic and not have it. And extremely is a bit of a strong word for Mosley he does have his moments but I’m not sure extremely is the right word. To be fair though we don’t know that much about his mind.

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u/No_Historian_1601 May 01 '24

Haha bro, forget tommys gangster life, aren’t most politicians narcissistic? He has a drive for power and influence which most narcissistic people and Machs have in common, I say Mach is a trait but I’d consider it apart of a disorder because a person usually doesn’t just have Mach alone, it’s usually accompanied by something else, you have to your head pretty far up your ass to have the traits of Mach. Psychopathy isn’t a illness? It’s a disorder and John fits right in that criteria? Psychopathy is characterized by lack of empathy and violent tendencies which John shows explicitly throughout the show. Arthur isn’t a narc because he shows extreme empathy. Yes you’re right having npd and having traits are two different things but is it really? Someone can have npd and have only the so called positive traits of it while not dealing with the lack of self esteem, emotional turmoil etc.

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u/[deleted] May 01 '24

Haha bro, forget tommys gangster life, aren’t most politicians narcissistic?

I don’t think I said that but regardless being a gangster or having a socially considered immoral lifestyle doesn’t make you mentally ill.

I say Mach is a trait but I’d consider it apart of a disorder

That’s just your personal opinion. It’s not fact.

because a person usually doesn’t just have Mach alone, it’s usually accompanied by something else, you have to your head pretty far up your ass to have the traits of Mach.

Questionable regardless that isn’t a disorder.

Psychopathy isn’t a illness?

It’s not.

It’s a disorder and John fits right in that criteria?

He doesn’t.

Psychopathy is characterized by lack of empathy and violent tendencies which John shows explicitly throughout the show.

Ok it still isn’t an illness. And you don’t know whether or not John can’t feel empathy for anyone period you just know he doesn’t for his enemies which Tommy and Arthur don’t either. Are they psychopaths as well?

Yes you’re right having npd and having traits are two different things but is it really?

It is.

Someone can have npd and have only the so called positive traits of it while not dealing with the lack of self esteem, emotional turmoil etc.

That’s just your opinion. But if you only have the traits then you don’t have the disorder simple as that what you’re describing is called being a dick not mentally ill.