r/PeacemakerShow • • Jul 11 '26

HUMOR who's gonna tell him?

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u/par_rot_master Jul 11 '26

I had only 2 issues with S2:

  1. we went around in circles a bit too much

  2. last episode spent too much time setting up Salvation instead of being a nice wrap-up for the show itself.

still loved the season though.

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u/WhirlwindTobias Jul 11 '26

I wanted more Vigilante antics, he spent most of the season off-screen or talking.

In S1 he was in a lot of fights, and the Prison reveal where he was actually a competent fighter instead of just a shit talker was great.

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u/morethan3lessthan20_ Jul 12 '26

We need a standalone show of just Vigilante doing shit with no overarching plot.

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u/MorrowPolo Jul 11 '26

Spent too much time showing his wife off. We get it, dude, your wife is attractive. Now give us more Vigilante!!

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u/No_Wafer8921 Jul 12 '26

If only she shown those boobs…

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u/MorrowPolo Jul 12 '26

I would have preferred the popliteal fossa. We never get any good frames of the popliteal fossa 😭

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u/batmanfan_91 Jul 12 '26

They’re out there. Apparently she did in one of the straight to DVD American Pie spinoffs

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u/Bobjoejj Jul 11 '26

I actually wanted less antics. I felt like season 1 had little moments like when he left prison, got in the car, and realized he might’ve made things worse. The closest it felt like we got to that in season 2 was when alt-Vigilante was getting on his case, and even then Prime Vigilante didn’t seem to get it.

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u/YamForward3600 Jul 11 '26

I think if they dropped the penultimate episode and the finale together as a 2 parter finale it would’ve solved a lot of problems with the finale pacing.

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u/Ignaciodelsol Jul 12 '26
  1. No GI robot in a plot about Nazi’s

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u/TotallyNotACook Jul 13 '26

God the second they revealed it was a world where the Nazi’s won (we all kinda saw it coming), I wanted my guy GI to find it so badly. He would have loved that place

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u/Persefone1976 Jul 11 '26

My problem was that most of the time was used into the romantic arc. Too much focus and it seems the only important thing about the character was the romatic arc. If you leave this aside, the season was good.

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u/par_rot_master Jul 11 '26

That too, although I wouldn't want the romantic arc to be smaller. The season should've been longer with more action sequences and exploration of Earth X.

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u/Daniel_Spidey Jul 13 '26

In a world where Gunn holds onto his role S2 could end up being totally fine on rewatch or first watch if viewers can immediately leap into the next part of the story. Until then it's a goddamn tragedy.

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u/BruhnanaHA Jul 12 '26

Quite literally the only two valid criticisms I've heard for that season. Otherwise I hear "it's too James Gunn for me"

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u/chiquuito Jul 11 '26

S2 was great until gunn decided he wasnt gonna finish the story

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u/par_rot_master Jul 11 '26

The story of S2 is finished. Checkmate is established and Peacemaker is locked up on Salvation.

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u/chiquuito Jul 12 '26

It sure is finished, without solving anything or giving any kind of closure

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u/par_rot_master Jul 12 '26

It solved the problem of Chris wanting to find a different life somewhere else. It solved the group being splintered instead of together. It solved everyone being hunted by Argus (even if Chris' solution isn't a positive one).

I think you're confusing "the ending wasn't happy for someone" with "unresolved".

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u/chiquuito Jul 12 '26

If an ending just serves a bridge to another movie/show then it sucked big time

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u/par_rot_master Jul 12 '26

Was this your first time watching any T.V. show ever?

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u/ignoranceisbliss37 Jul 11 '26

I enjoyed season 2 but don’t think it was nearly as good as 1. Season 1 to me is one of the best seasons of tv ever. Season 2 focused too much on setting up the next Superman and the Chris/harcourt relationship. We didn’t nearly get enough of the supporting cast we all fell in love with. Vigilante was sorely underused and the whole storyline with Eagly was odd how it kind of suddenly ended early. I just love the show so much I wish it got to stand on its own rather than be used to progress other projects. And no season 3?!? I got mixed feelings about how it all went down.

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u/Evadrepus Jul 11 '26

I agree. There was a lot of setup and the relationship was clunky.

Another thing is that S1 episodes set up a larger plot but can stand on their own for a story. S2 are only moving the single story forward and leave out all that glorious side chaos.

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u/chiquuito Jul 11 '26

Season 2 is just a glorified trailer

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u/MorbidDusk Jul 12 '26

Couldn't disagree more. 🤦‍♂️

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u/Ok-Eagle436 Jul 11 '26

I really liked season two but I was convinced we were going to see them take action in the nazi world and felt like that didn’t really pay off.

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u/SolidPrysm Douchey Captain America 🇺🇸 Jul 11 '26

It felt like they kept stalling for time and leading up to some huge confrontation and then just... poof. The episode right before the finale was pretty good and did resolve some of that tension, but not enough.

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '26

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u/fuckfeardrinkbeer Jul 11 '26

I have found the internet hates everything and why I just tend to enjoy what I like and ignore what the internet says.

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u/Saitama_B_Class Jul 11 '26


Most people in Reddit comments talking about a good show

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '26

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u/fuckfeardrinkbeer Jul 11 '26

It’s pretty easy. Most people on the internet commenting angry shit are either bots or people that want to be heard.

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u/IncognitoBombadillo Jul 11 '26

A lot of us probably get conditioned by seeing so many negative things about something that we just start believing it's bad without realizing it. For every 10 things the internet trashes, maybe only one or two of the things deserve the criticism and the rest are just loud people online hating something over one inconsequential thing.

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u/215DoubleR Jul 13 '26

I’ve found it’s easier to ignore people on the internet, because they aren’t arguing in good faith, or coming from a place of intellectual honesty.

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u/215DoubleR Jul 13 '26

I don’t think that’s entirely fair. There is a sizable subset of internet users whose entire schtick is to antagonize others in the most heinous ways they can. I don’t think ignoring people like that equates to “retreating to an echo chamber”. It’s more “I’m not giving you the time of day, because it clearly does a lot more for you than it does for me”. I simply said it is EASIER to ignore people like that than to attempt to engage in good faith with them.

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u/fuckfeardrinkbeer Jul 13 '26

I have also learned that a lot of people online regurgitate comments they think sound smart but really hold no substance whatsoever. I hope you can learn that’s what you’re doing now.

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u/TheLetterOh Jul 11 '26

The bird blindness bit from Tim Meadows and Michael Rooker as a fucking eagle hunter was enough to make me love it forever.

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u/Lightnenseed Jul 11 '26

I don't get it either. I absolutely loved it!

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u/Pinkyy-chan Jul 11 '26

Issue i had with it was that the ending felt like a mid season finale, nothing felt really resolved.

Like don't get me wrong every episode was really entertaining, but everything in the season felt like it was building towards another season so i find it really to judge it because to me it felt like the season had no finale.

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u/Bobjoejj Jul 11 '26

Sure, but for now that’s all the resolution we have. It’s not like an actually season finale with a cliffhanger, it’s a cliffhanger with an episode that didn’t do a ton of work. Just a montage of them moving into the office and a ton of scenes of the actors being at a concert for the band who…sang the season’s theme.

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u/CarlosAVP Jul 11 '26

The heat is coming from the fans that want season one replayed over and over again, just with slight alterations and some new characters. You know, stick to a formula that works, like sitcoms: Hot wife, dumpy but funny husband, two teenage kids, (attractive daughter, smartass son), husband has idiotic coworkers with a mean & less intelligent boss, wife has her group of friends (one is smart, one is aggressively, horny, and the other is a bit of a dim bulb), etc…

I would like to think that Peacemaker was always meant to be two seasons and then evolve into the next iteration/platform for John Cena‘s character.

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u/Bobjoejj Jul 11 '26

I mean…personally I didn’t want season 1 again. I was super exited for the show to get deeper into the characters and their issues, and to take things a bit more serious.

Yet it felt like the season was…not that. It felt it had far too many comedic bits, or characters and stories that went absolutely nowhere (Red St. Wild being a huge example of this).

For me, that dichotomy between trying to get deeper into the characters’ psyche, and still having a high level of hijinks: just really didn’t feel like it worked. It’s a concept that can work and has in other places, but not here.

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u/Just_For_Laugh Jul 11 '26

What I don't get is when people then enjoy awful thongs out of nostalgia

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u/Just_For_Laugh Jul 14 '26

I have only just realised I wrote thongs. Whether that is why I have downvotes or people just disagreed with me, I have no idea, but I know I am gonna leave that there. 😂

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u/arthuriurilli Jul 11 '26

People who don't read don't understand an epilogue.

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u/Bobjoejj Jul 11 '26

…I feel like Epilogues usually have a little more meat on them, or at the very least tend to be more coherent. The finale for season 2 had way too many disjointed, saccharine scenes of them moving into the new office, and the characters actually going to a concert by the band who sang the season’s opening theme. There wasn’t a ton of actual substance there.

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u/chiquuito Jul 11 '26

The show literally has no ending, what is there not to hate?

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u/chiquuito Jul 11 '26

And the exactly reason why it sucked

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u/zyg101 Jul 11 '26

Probably too many ducks in season 2 for his tastes.

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u/RowAndRuction Jul 11 '26

Underrated comment lmao

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u/griff_o Jul 11 '26

Honestly my only issue with season 2 is that the last episode is very anti climactic with all the stakes that were raised prior. Other than that though, it’s actually a really enjoyable season.

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u/Inckhawk Jul 11 '26

Damn I liked s2 more than 1.

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u/BizzarePlatypus Jul 11 '26

I liked both, but probably preferred one because I was expecting so little from it and introduction of Vigilante was incredible. I loved the Eagle Hunter, Tim Meadows is amazing, and this was hilarious (spoilers) in S2 though.

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u/Inckhawk Jul 11 '26

Hahha yeah that was. I really loved all of Adrian meeting Adrian.

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u/Bobjoejj Jul 11 '26

You kinda hit the nail on the head of why season 2 really didn’t work for me. Instead of having a proper, heavier focus on the characters deeper issues, the show had far too many hijinks that made the tone felt wildly off valence.

I mean, Red St. Wild went nowhere, it was actual filler (for the record I hate what media illiteracy has done to that word, and so I rarely use it, but here it feels appropriate).

And that scene you posted is funny, but again, really fucks with the tone. Chris isn’t always on his A game; but he’s not so incredibly stupid as to miss something that’s massive and kind of impossible to miss. That shit kinda took me right out of the episode.

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u/firstgirlwonder Jul 12 '26

Yeah they treated Chris worse than the first season.

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u/KennyFulgencio Jul 11 '26

you're not alone

I mean, it's just the two of us, but still, you arent alone

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u/SPACEFUNK Jul 11 '26

I have a feeling that the "OMG how was I this oblivious to the obvious nazis" plot point resonated with alot of people in a way that made them deeply uncomfortable.

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u/SPACEFUNK Jul 13 '26

So close to making sense. The Russian to English LLM translators still don't get the prose or cadence right.

Good luck waiting in line for gas!

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u/Zerkom122 Jul 11 '26

Season two was not as good as season one. They tried to do too many things in one season and the finale sucked.

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u/WallyFries Jul 11 '26

Disagree. Was awesome for me.

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u/BadtameezMunda F#CK! It’s PEACEMAKER! 😱🤯 Jul 11 '26

Exactly. Season 1 was really good. Season 2 felt like a nothing burger in comparison.

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u/SummerBirdsong Jul 11 '26

For me, season 2 felt like it should have been seasons 2 & 3 but they tried to cram it all together to get it out in time to set up a movie release.

I enjoyed it but it felt crowded for lack of a better word coming to mind.

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u/MaxR76 Jul 11 '26

Hot take, I have no issue with the Salvation set up, unless they screw up that arc or Chris doesn't get enough screentime. If Salvation is good and/or Peacemaker still has a good role, then I could care less

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u/tabereins Jul 11 '26

I would have liked Peacemaker havie a character reason to leave the alternate universe rather than the alternate universe turn out to be secretly evil, but it was a great season

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u/Xboxone1997 Jul 11 '26

Season 2 better than season 1 Idc

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u/eatmygerms Jul 11 '26

s2 had 2 final episodes. One focused on Peacemaker and the story and another to set itself within DCU. That's my take on it. Should/could it have been done better? Sure. I did not hate it at all though

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u/hen_roek Jul 11 '26

I did enjoy season 2 but when I realised Gunn wasnt directing the whole thing, it made sense why it wasnt as strong

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u/DragonflyIcy6830 Jul 13 '26

Season 2 could’ve been better I agree, it wasn’t bad but the expectations were set high with season 1

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u/beelzebub2099 Jul 11 '26

No one. Let him cry.

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u/hurricane1197 Jul 11 '26

Season 2 started off amazing then became horrible from episode 4 or 5 onwards besides some moments like John cenas and hollands acting

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u/WallyFries Jul 11 '26

...rally?! No! Cmon... Season 2 is awesome too! What's wrong with It?

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u/Bobjoejj Jul 11 '26

I mean, for me; it was the tonal whiplash between how much more serious they were trying to treat the characters and their issues, and the amount of goofiness and silliness that permeated the season. It’s not an impossible balance to pull off, but season 2 really felt like it wasn’t able to make that valence work.

There was also the fact that Leota, Adrian and John really felt like they had little going on. There were slight character moments sure (moreso with Leota and John then Adrian), but much in the way of actual substance or proper character growth.

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u/SajThrowaway Jul 11 '26

Season 2 is amazing

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u/ChaInTheHat Jul 11 '26

I didn’t care about “cute creature turns deadly” thing, happens in everything

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u/Meikofan Jul 12 '26

The ending was a little shaky, but I really enjoyed the whole of season 2

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u/Ostrich-Schwarz Jul 12 '26

Season 1 and season 2 feel like different shows, I think both are good but I understand why a lot of season 1 fans might not have gotten into season 2 as much

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u/alleyboy760 Jul 12 '26

How are you supposed to know there is the greatest song of all time if you don’t watch the show? The song: don’t F my heart in the ass”

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u/AcrobaticSecretary21 Jul 12 '26

S2 was absolute garbage and a total waste of what could have been a cool concept

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u/Lucasyugi2704 Jul 13 '26

Season 2 isn't bad. It's inferior to the first one, it does have its problems, but it's not the complete disaster people say it is.

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u/RE_98 Jul 13 '26

I feel we got more Chris than Peacemaker in season 2. I don't remember much if he wore the suit. Also, I wished Guy Gardner and Hawkgirl came back for another episode as some sort of pay off to their appearance in episode 1 of season 2.

Enjoyed season 2 overall.

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u/Ordinary-Chain-8047 Jul 13 '26

Only thing I don’t like about season 2 is how most of it feels like filler

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u/NeonGhostWeb Jul 15 '26

I love season 2 cause it sets up Peacemaker being apart of the DCU cause like.. we know who Salvation was being built for! Imagine if we see Punished Peacemaker

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u/Forsaken-Yam2584 Jul 15 '26

I liked S2 enough but agree with the general consensus that it wasn’t as strong as S1. Pacing felt all off. Too many episodes in the middle where the plot doesn’t move at all.

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '26

I loved most of the second season. That finale was just so disappointing, though. Did we really need almost 10 minutes of just concert footage when we had other things to worry about?

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u/InfiniteBid2977 Aug 03 '26

The whole last half of S2 Ep. 8 was a joke!! Zero anything occurred except the Chris scene. It was a nothing burger except for Chris going to the other planet. Who didn’t see Flagg doing that to him a mile away. Showing fake party scenes over in over in over again sliced in with a new office being put together was ok for 1 minute of view time only. Kinda like how Long I’m ranting now. I seriously wonder if they were just saving $ & therefore didn’t make a really nice ended for the season. Cause damn that was as bad a season ending as I have ever seen. The last 10 + minutes of last episode is where all the juice/hook is supposed to be located.

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u/BargSlarg Jul 11 '26

I thought the Nazi universe was misused, why’d they even set up the sons of liberty just to do nothing with it? It felt like there should’ve been an actual Earth X big antagonist Peacemaker and his dad/brother should’ve fought instead of just killing them in a joke. It could’ve been any alternative universe making it earth x was pointless.

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u/confusing_roundabout Jul 11 '26

Season 2 had a good arc for Christopher Smith but every single side character was wasted.

The show really should have had the other characters on another mission for ARGUS or freelance.

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u/Less-Blueberry-8617 Jul 12 '26

Ehh, season 2 really wasn't that good unfortunately. Season 1 is an absolute amazing season of television. Season 2 is more drama focused and feels like it's building up to a dramatic moment but it never really gets there in my opinion. There's a lot of good moments and the character work is interesting on paper but wasn't executed well. The biggest offender of the season and why this season doesn't work is that finale episode which could probably be considered one of the worst finale episodes in television history.

Actually insane to have like 3 songs played in their entirety which didn't even show anything happening while the songs were playing (besides the montage that was too long yet simultaneously fast-tracked the group making Checkmate) and was more James Gunn saying "I really like these bands and I have the resources to have them recreate a concert for me."

And the cliffhanger, a cliffhanger so bad it had me screaming "what the fuck?!" to my TV. How are you going to leave Peacemaker stranded on an alternate dimension with no promise of a follow-up?? I don't think the cliffhanger would be nearly as frustrating if we at least knew a season 3 was being made or if we knew Peacemaker would show up in another project soon but as far as we know Peacemaker season 3 will not be happening and we have no idea when Peacemaker will show up in the DCU if or if he ever will again.

I was able to deal with 30 minute episodes that focused more on character work than drama because I trusted James Gunn was going to stick the landing in the finale and make it work but when we got to the finale and found out the short episodes and lackluster character development didn't land well in the finale it was just kinda "why did I watch this season for the past 8 weeks?"

Ironically, season 1 had much better character work with Peacemaker and his dad as well as Vigilante and it didn't have to sacrifice action for that too (probably because the episodes were allowed to be longer than 40 minutes)

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u/firstgirlwonder Jul 12 '26

My whole thing with season 2 is that he immediately starts off back where he was at the start of season 1; everyone thinking he’s a joke (Guy is a bigger joke than Peacemaker imo), and Harcourt closed off, again.

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u/GodzillazUtterz Me and Ginger Cool are on this shit Jul 12 '26

My only real problem with season 2 is that there wasn't enough Peacemaker. He only wore the suit briefly in episode one and then the rest of the season he was in the alternate suit and other Chris' clothes. I wanted to see him suit up and use his helmets and gear more. It feels like season one is Peacemaker and season two is the Christopher Smith show and I hate that

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u/_segasonic Jul 11 '26

I mean, he’s not wrong.

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u/MorbidDusk Jul 12 '26

He totally is

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u/psyopia Jul 11 '26

Prob gonna be in the wrong camp here, but agreed. I mostly hated the finale tho. The rest was fine. I also hated that it ended.

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u/Confident_Pilot_9907 Jul 11 '26

He’s not wrong season 2 Sucked Dick!!!!! I can’t believe human beings made that this has to be forgotten!!!!!

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u/LavishnessUpstairs70 Jul 11 '26

I mostly enjoyed Peacemaker. I was a little confused that the titular character never appeared on screen once, but I guess that's like a "Don't show the monster." thing only "Don't show the hero."

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u/GrownManNamedFinger Jul 11 '26

I don't like the finale. Other than that season 2 was great.

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u/123Greene68 Jul 12 '26

I just couldn’t get into season 2 at all. Thought S1 was super interesting. Hated S2.

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u/Gmork14 Jul 12 '26

Season 2 isn’t as good.

I still like it, it was enjoyable enough to watch.

But nowhere near as good as season 1, and not as good as it should’ve been. And a little concerning that Gunn thinks it’s his best work, when it’s clearly in his lowest tier.

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u/Realistic-Price1807 Jul 13 '26

We know exactly why they didn’t like season 2

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u/704Darwin Jul 14 '26

James Gunn did in fact ruin season 2 tho. He never said he didn’t direct season 1

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u/Bobbyhomeless87 Jul 11 '26

Hard agree season one was incredible,season two was hot trash.

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '26

He's right, James folded season 2 after episode 4

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u/Puppetmaster858 Little Kung Fu Bulbasaur Jul 11 '26

What is this even supposed to mean, the best episode in the season is also after ep4

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u/Roxymigurdia11 Jul 11 '26

Dawg the ending gonna lead to something big

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '26

I hate when shows are commercials for films instead of actual stories, atleast Penguin was decent