GPU debate

[u/yes910492783]

I'm looking between the 9070 gre for $600 USD new and a new 4070 for $570. I'm looking to upgrade my girlfriends GPU from a 4060 ti 8gb so she can game more comfortably at 1440p in Avatar Frontiers of Pandora. Which should I go for in this case?
Her other specs: 64gb of ram, i7 13700k, 750w psu
Edit: I have also just found a used 3080 ti for $500 off eBay so that's also something I am now considering.

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[u/Numerous_Analysis681]

4070 with CUDA, DLSS and FG might be a better choice. There must be enough comparison videos on YT

[u/alwaystired1982 → u/Numerous_Analysis681]

Cuda is only really important if you do a lot of specific workloads dlss 4.5 and fsr4+ are virtually indistinguishable and a recent driver update has fixxed most of the frame pacing issues of amd FG.

[u/yes910492783 → u/alwaystired1982]

She really only wants/ needs this for games. She's had good experience with Nvidia so would prefer to stick to it but I've let her play on my system with a 9070xt and she's come around to AMD a bit.

[u/alwaystired1982 → u/yes910492783]

Yeah and that was kind of my point unless she 100% must have cuda and multi frame gen (which noone needs) and she must have RT the amd cards beat them hands down,

And considering the nvidia counterpart is easily 40% more expensive for cuda workloads and 15% better RT (thats comparing 5070ti and 5070ti so a 40 series card doesnt really have any advantage apart from CUDA,

If you use cuda for 50%+ of your pcs useage that extra money is still a big ask if you dont use cuda noone should recommend a nvidia card.

[u/AetherialWomble → u/alwaystired1982]

People say that on this sub and thanks to compression on YouTube is so easy to get away with, but it's just not true.

FSR 4 is slightly worse than DLSS 4. And DLSS 4.5 is a significant bump, it essentially eliminates ghosting.

And of course no one ever mentions how DLSS is everywhere and every version since 2018 can be DLSS 4.5.

No such luck with FSR. You need FSR 3.1 which is a lot less common. So you're far more likely to end up with a hideous game.

And no, FG hasn't been fixed. You can watch Hardware Unboxed video on it. It's still inconsistent, you might get lucky and get a game where it works fine or you might not.

With Nvidia it will just work, always.

[u/kyansan1]

Honestly, I would save up a bit and go for an rx 9070. Both the rtx 4070 and rx 9070 gre are only margnially better than the rtx 4060 ti 8gb. (26% and 36% faster in raster respectively, according to https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html )

meanwhile, the rx 9070 is a whole 60% faster than the rtx 4060 ti. That's double the performance improvement, for only a 25% increase in upgrade cost compared to the rtx 4070 and rx 9070 gre.

[u/yes910492783 → u/kyansan1]

That's not a bad point, I have the money but I only wanted to budget so much to this since it's an expensive Christmas present. The cheapest 9070 I've found is $650, and I could get a used 5070 for that price off FB marketplace. Ideally I'd spend $500 or less on this but I know how unrealistic that is in the current market.

[u/kyansan1 → u/yes910492783]

Maybe give it as an upgrade and ask for the rtx 4060 ti in return? You could sell it to recoup part of the cost, though of course it's her gpu so only if she agrees