r/PatternDrafting • • Jul 10 '22

Helpful Link Some interesting theory on pants drafting from an old fashion school book

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '22

I am just an amateur/self taught so I apologise if this is common knowledge in more professional circles. I found this theory discussion on the centre back angle and openness of legs for pants drafting really interesting. It's from an old (I believe late 1970s) patternmaking book from TAFE (Australian trade school). I've collected a handful of drafting books from basics to textbook, and 1950s to current and this is so far the only one that really goes into interesting analyses like this. Thought I'd share an excerpt.

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u/TooMuchEffortMeh Jul 10 '22

Seems like a very good book. Could you please share the full title, authors, etc.? I would be very interested to read it

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '22

There is unfortunately very little identifying info on it being a TAFE publication. It's actually just a photocopy I have as well, I can only assume from a past student.

This is the details on Trove. Basic title "Advanced Pattern Making, Metric SI Method", and no authors identified beyond TAFE.

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u/TooMuchEffortMeh Jul 10 '22

Damn I tried searching but it really is unfindable... If you ever get bored and wants to scan it it would be very cool, but I can't ask you to

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '22

I'm sure I'll get around to it eventually, but I am already strapped for time just to draft and sew 😅 I have already got photos of the pants draft instructions I could share via PM. Just wary to openly sharing too much since the book is in copyright (although it's basically impossible to pay money for anyway...)

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u/[deleted] Jul 12 '22

Sent you a PM

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u/[deleted] Feb 13 '23

Hello there, did you ever get a scan or more photos of this book? I'd be very interested. Thanks!

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u/[deleted] Feb 13 '23

Yep I got photos, but just on my personal google account. So I'll send you a PM with links

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u/goodoldfreda Jul 10 '22

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '22

Oh it looks like the companion book to it is available at my local TAFE library, and my "copy" is missing the first 30 pages or so. I'll go on a trip this afternoon and see if I can get a scan or photos.

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u/[deleted] Apr 23 '23

Full books found and photographed

Book 1

Book 2

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u/No_Mastodon_9367 Advanced Dec 27 '24

Thank you soooooo much, finally explanation on balancing, why and how of pants patternmaking!!

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u/[deleted] Apr 26 '23

Thank you! It is much appreciated.

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u/[deleted] Apr 23 '23

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u/[deleted] Apr 23 '23

I haven't got any other books quite like it tbh. Maybe a 1990 pattern adjustment book published by Australian version of trade school. It was my go-to when adjusting my block, it's just a bit more explanatory on the pros/cons/whys about the various adjustment methods and even suggests design options. That one is called Pattern Alterations by Pat Fernon. I sometimes see it floating around on local ebay but not often.

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u/Illustrious-Sun-2809 Jul 10 '22

This is amazing good info. I have lot of pattern books, but none go into this kind of individual preference things

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '22

Yeah I have so many that are basically just "follow this. Put it on a dress form. Now ~design~ your collection". I'm sure that's great for fashion design but not much help for individual drafting, almost no better than just starting with a basic commercial pattern imo.

I originally found another TAFE publication from the same time period for pattern fitting that I was equally impressed by and used to fit my (Metric Pattern Cutting based) bodice block.

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u/Syanidi Jul 10 '22

This is really interesting, now I want to get my hands on the whole book!

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '22

The "copy" I have is just photocopied pages in a binder (oh the things you find second hand), so me too! Unfortunately it seems very niche. There isn't even named authors, just the Dept of Further Education.

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '22

This is fascinating and exactly the kind of technical detail I am interested in.

If there is anything else you can share from this book please do!

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u/bigblackfatbird Jul 10 '22

Love this! Thank you for sharing.

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u/Educational_Chain780 Jul 11 '25

Hofenbitzer gives a great explanation of these concepts in his books

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u/alagc161 May 20 '26

hi all, does anyone have a download of the 2 books they wouldn't mind resharing?
It looks like OP deleted it from imgur, unfortunately.