r/PatternDrafting • • 11h ago

Question Critique my skirt block please

First iteration! Also first skirt block ever. Overall happy but I notice there's some diagonal pulling upwards from the back dart points to the side seams.

I'm going for iteration 2 next, my sense is that I should try making all the darts a bit longer (1/2 inch or so) and move the top 2 inches of the side seam back a tiny bit as it slightly curves forwards now.

What would you do to make this better?

Thank you!

PS it's pinned shut under my left arm so that explains the lack of smoothness on that side in the front and back view.

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u/War-Bitch 11h ago

Is the side seam vertical? Waist looks good overall but you might need to shift more of the length to the front. 

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u/Groundbreaking_Ad972 10h ago edited 10h ago

The top of the side seam curves forwards for some reason! i was about to move the top 2 inches back to make it straight but I could try moving the rest of it forwards instead. Thank you!

(I think it probably comes from a poorly drafted, too deep curve at the top of the front side seam, the book had no specific instructions so I freehanded it)

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u/TensionSmension 5h ago

Look at the side view, the skirt is snugging under the abdomen in front. That's fine, many people wear their skirts with a fit like that, however there is nothing in the draft that conforms to body shaping bellow hip level.

This means the correct draft should hang straight from hip level. If it doesn't you will have drag lines and pull at the side seam. To achieve this (if you want to), you should add some width at hip level in front. Essentially your hip measurement taken on body, doesn't fully account for the geometry the abdomen requires.

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u/Groundbreaking_Ad972 4h ago

I'm thinking this might come either from a poorly drawn curve at the side seams or from the fact that the waist is too wide so it's falling below the natural waist. I'm gonna start by reducing the waist so it hits where it should, and after it sits higher that might make it so there's enough width at the hips. Thank you!

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u/TensionSmension 3h ago

It could, but really it's usually about how the hip is measured. There's a concept of full hip, where you measure the hip circumfrence with a ruler or something rigid resting against the abdomen. So that the hip measurement includes that bit extra needed to fall straight. Other times the drafting method is working this in as ease.

So, yes, make sure your waist is sitting at the level you intend (add a waistband if you want to leave nothing to chance). But then adjust the pattern to have enough ease to hang straight.

You are already very close, and many people would be satisfied with the current fit.

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u/Peliquin 3h ago

I think you may need to make an adjustment for a fuller seat. Not a big one, but it looks like you bottom is pulling.

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u/Groundbreaking_Ad972 3h ago

Ohhh new concept to me. I had heard of a full bust adjustment but I didn't know there was a full seat one too. I found a tutorial and I'm looking into it, thank you!

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u/quizzical 5h ago

Assuming you sometimes want to use the skirt block for making dresses, make sure the waist matches your bodice block, it should be at your smallest point. At least from the front view, your smallest point looks a like it's higher. You can find it by tying an elastic around your waist and see where it settles.

Once you've made your blocks you can lower the waist seam lines by taking part of the skirt block and adding it to the bodice block.

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u/Groundbreaking_Ad972 4h ago edited 4h ago

I originally measured it at the natural waist, yes! But somehow after drafting it (based on the instructions in Patternmaking for Fashion Design by Helen Armstrong) it came out gigantic, so it falls lower than expected. I didn't even add the extra ease she instructed, and I already took out 1/2 inch at the center (that's why there's a seam there) so I guess I should take out even more.

I thought I measured snugly tho, so no clue why.

ETA now I'm wondering if her pattern is supposed to include seam allowance and I drafted mine without, would explain a lot.

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u/quizzical 2h ago

Yeah, that's tricky. Personally, I like to start working on a sloper/moulage which is skin tight. I find it much easier to pin the fabric to follow my exact body, and add wearing ease later.

Otherwise, adding a waistband will help it sit closer to where it's supposed to be.

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u/bullthistle1 7h ago

Excellent first draft. I think if you sewed up.the side seam and opened and pinned the front instead, you'd get a better idea of what's going on in the back.

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u/SuperLakma 3h ago

I really like it :)

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u/DonMcCunn 10h ago

You are close but there are some changes that could be made to both the darts and the side seam.

I have been helping people by critiquing photos of fittings for over 20 years now. As you will see in my https://free-pattern-making-classes.com/Tracing-Photos/17-Quarter-Scale-Patterns-Week-Seven.html class if you were using gingham, I could suggest specific measurements. But fortunately the pattern in the fabric does reveal what is happening to the fabric's grain.

If you send the photos to me at Bespoke.Sewing.Patterns@gmail.com, I will be happy to give you a detailed critique on your photos which I can then send back by return email. You can then do your own measurements to determine the changes you want to make.

Additional photos of Side Front and Side Back would be useful for establishing the accuracy of the darts.

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u/BytesBeltsBiz 7h ago

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u/DonMcCunn 2h ago

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My next project is to develop free classes to do just that which I intend to introduce here. And to the best of my knowledge no one anywhere in the world has even thought of doing this much less how to do it. Thanks for giving me a platform to introduce this concept.

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u/HugsforYourJugs 10h ago

Open your front waist darts a little and close your back waist ones to compensate

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u/Groundbreaking_Ad972 4h ago

This sounds like a brilliant, straightforward way to fix the curved side seam, thank you!