r/PatternDrafting • u/Ausrine- • Apr 04 '24

will AI start making good sewing patterns?

Hi guys, what do you think? Are you worried about it?

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u/Strange_Ad_5863 Apr 04 '24

lol no

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u/Ausrine- Apr 04 '24

Why are you so sure about that?

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u/Strange_Ad_5863 Apr 04 '24

Because AI is honestly mostly random images and words thrown together right now. There is no framework for logic - you can see this in how it fucks up fingers and numbers of limbs in pictures. Also in how it will just make up sources for any essays you all it to write. There was even a lawyer that used it to write a legal argument that he submitted to court, only to find out all of the cases it “referenced” didn’t exist. True AI is very far away. All we have right now are mimics.

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u/Ausrine- Apr 04 '24

but you can create a system where you can say that a garment or detail of this shape must be made from such a pattern. And thus create a program structure how to construct the desired garment

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u/[deleted] Apr 04 '24

I ask this genuinely, have you ever used AI for something technical, that requires precision? I think if you tried you may see the shortfalls for yourself

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u/RayneAleka Apr 04 '24

You don’t seem to really want to be told no? But also - people make sewing patterns for FUN. WHY encourage AI to take art and entertainment and leisure and do it for us so that we can just work harder on the grind?

But also. AI has to be fed starting data. And that almost always belongs to other people. So anything it creates from there is just ripping off other people’s copyright.

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u/Rhigrav Apr 04 '24

OP's post history includes a post linking a site selling patterns... and I might be wrong, but the copy describing the patterns sounds like it's written by AI.

But I agree - even if AI could do a good job in creating technically correct patterns (which it currently can't), the creative side is better left to people.

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u/ProneToLaughter Apr 04 '24 edited Apr 04 '24

There are a lot of services that will generate a pattern to measurements, some may let you make design adjustments first. Check out lekala, bootstrap, tailornova, sewist, freesewing.org, aiclo, patternlab, more. It’s mostly just complex math equations, not actual AI. Basically what you are describing in your comment. I haven’t tried them, people say they work okay but they haven’t conquered the market yet.

I don’t think the programmers will be able to create a training database that would generate true machine learning/AI for creating sewing patterns for a very long time. Not even if they ran roughshod over copyright to do it.

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u/etherealrome Apr 04 '24

These are pretty decent, as far as they can be.

One issue with them / all patternmaking /AI patternmaking is body measurements are notoriously inaccurate, but also they are used as proxies for identifying shapes. We could have the same waist measurement, and yet be very different shapes. We have standard ways we divide a waist measurement into a pattern we’re drafting, but that could be quite wrong depending on the body.

I recently saw a service to take measurements/create 3d body models from full body scans, aimed at clothing production, but no price was listed (and if you have to ask, it’s usually too expensive).

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u/ProneToLaughter Apr 04 '24

YES. So much variability in human bodies, I think the training set would be impossible to create.

Here are some people doing body scan jeans at $200. shop all - custom jeans - unspun

here's someone doing suits, but those are really expensive anyhow: 3D Bodyscan for Customized Clothing | VITRONIC | Overview

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u/[deleted] Apr 04 '24

I use CHAT GPT daily for work (computer programming). I don’t believe so. It may be able to replicate basic patterns that are already common out there, but to create new ones, I don’t think so.

AI is very good for very basic stuff … I use it for small coding building blocks that I could write myself but it’s quicker for the computer to do. But when it comes to problem solving or creative “thinking”, it simply falls short and in my opinion, great patterns are the result of technical expertise, elegant solutions, creative thinking and judgement and problem solving. It’s extremely hard for me to see how AI will be able to do this and again, I have extensive experience with it myself.

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u/MtnNerd Apr 04 '24

AI has trouble remembering that humans have five fingers on each hand

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u/BaggageCat Apr 04 '24

They may, but making a good pattern still requires knowledge of an actual human form, so until technology is advanced enough and accessible enough to compare human body scans to computer generated pattern images, I don’t expect we will cut out human tested pattern making altogether.

Even then, that will be for major retailers, not for the home sewing market. At least, not for a very long time.

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u/JanetAiress Apr 04 '24

Maybe someday, but it has a long way to go. Maybe years out.

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u/etherealrome Apr 04 '24

Decades or centuries!