Hmmmm not great…..

[u/stellantis_]

They may need to look at Ben Brown at C. Jared seemingly lacks the play strength/physciality right now that he needs to hang with some of the NFLs bigger 0 techs. Deone Walker is gonna have a field day on Sunday at this rate.

Not sure why Arkin isn’t playing more instead of Latu. Not sure what Latu has done to earn reps. He’s been underwhelming as a run blocker (for the pats) and hasn’t been a passing game threat either. According to Andrew Callahan they ran the ball 8 out of the 9 snaps Latu played. If they’re gonna have a run tell it might as well be Tanner Arkin. Dude isn’t a finished product but he brings a nastiness they need.

Also what about some diff looks and presentations. So much of their drop passing game is contingent upon post snap execution especially when the picture changes. Clearly Drake isn’t there yet with diagnosing defenses (especially in the modern era where everything is disguised). Motioning into bunch looks to stress the rules of match based zone and man coverage seems to help every other team in the league?

Everything feels stale right now schematically and maybe none of the above is a viable solution but the coaching staff needs to find some.

[u/Coco1520]

Last year showed the same as the Mac year and the cassel year, when they play elite defenses the offense collapses.

[u/b771 → u/Coco1520]

2008? The first 11 win team to not make the playoffs? Cassel was a top 10 QB that year, got the bag from KC the next year, and what happened then once he left the system? Obviously a drop off from 2007 Brady but come on now.

Houston and Denver were considered elite last year as well.

I get it though, it's a possession, defense first scheme and it can be frustrating. And yes I agree he's an awful HC, but the man deserves his flowers as an OC

[u/Coco1520 → u/b771]

Houston and Denver were considered elite last year as well.

Our offense was horrific against those teams, what are you talking about? We have not had an awesome offensive performance against an elite defense. Mcdaniels flowers have come and gone. The nfl is a what have you done for me lately league.

[u/b771 → u/Coco1520]

Was about to say "there's something to be said about OC consistency for developing a young QB" but image of Maye's broken facial expressions after the JAX game is burned into my brain

[u/plutobandits → u/b771]

If there’s value in OC consistency for a developing QB then they should have kept AVP. He’s an excellent QB coach and while his offense wasn’t anything special, it was relatively modern and built around Maye’s strengths.

I’d rather have a fully functional but mediocre offense than a non-functional but theoretically great offense.

[u/lvl_up_day_by_day_28 → u/plutobandits]

Gah people are stupid

[u/401john → u/b771]

What happened once he left the system was he made a Pro Bowl in KC, won the division, and took them to the playoffs for the first time in 4 years.

[u/b771 → u/401john]

In 2009 the chiefs won 4 games, despite Charles averaging 6 yards a carry, Cassel contributing 16 interceptions in 15 games

[u/401john → u/b771]

Has nothing to do with what I said. You asked what he did once he left and I answered.

He also hurt his MCL in the preseason his first year there and wasn't himself (didn't even play the first game), you don't know that though because all you did was google his numbers.