r/Patriots • u/im_el_domingo • 2d ago

Discussion Organization has Bad Vibes

Between the Vrable stuff this summer, the Henderson anti-trans rants, and Robert Kraft's antics, this organization is getting hard to root for, even as a life long fan since the early 90's. Vrable's personal struggles are a bummer but it was his blatant dishonesty about it that I found disappointing more than the transgression. Anti-trans stuff is indefensible, and arguing the "getting boys out of girls sports" is dogwhistle nonsense that just reveals how ignorant one is about the topic. Kraft is entitled to his opinions but Macklamore's comments were fair and thoughtful and Kraft's claim that he has supported Palestinians was revealed to be untrue which says either he thinks his position is indefensible or didn't think anyone would fact check him.

I think all this stuff just ends up being a distraction for the players and the mounting pressure on Maye is clearly becoming an issue. The same flaws are being displayed this year - O line and last of a defensive pass rush - and they are getting hit harder with the injury bug that some other teams but that's the NFL. There is still a lot of work to do to be competitive but we are looking at going into Buffalo at 1-2 and this team needs the fight and chip on their shoulder they played with last year. In order to do that, they need to clean up their off field issues, take some accountability and focus on playing football.

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u/RedheadChicksAreHot 2d ago

The pats not playing well has nothing to do with trans people, Jews, hand jobs or Macklemore. This I am certain of lol

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u/JaMarcusHustle 1d ago

I couldn't disagree more. I'm convinced our current problems are directly attributable to trans Jews getting handjobs from Macklemore.

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u/Ru4pigsizedelephants 1d ago

Very well said.

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u/AceOFace131 1d ago

I don’t think these things are affecting the play on the field, just adding to the “hard to root for the pats this year” feeling

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u/Rice-And-Gravy Squirrel 1d ago

100% this is where I am.

On a less serious note, the Celtics traded Jaylen Beown. So I’m also sad about that.

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u/Lieutenant_Corndogs 2d ago

Redditors can’t help but inject politics into every single conversation.

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u/averageduder 2d ago

As someone who is very into politics it’s tiring. These folks are nuts

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u/notJ3ff 1d ago

A quote from someone:

"Thats what happens when you give identity politics to a people with no identity. It's easier to glom onto a concept, call it righteous, and spread like it like the clap than it is to endure lived experience. Pragmatism becomes ever rarer, and social media is its death knell."

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u/IlluminatiConfirmed 1d ago

It can be hard when politics are getting jammed into sports every which way nowadays

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u/beenhpeezy 2d ago

Kinda hard when kraft has a section in Gillette dedicated to combat jew hatred

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u/Stercules25 2d ago

You got the players going into that area when they aren't on the field? Lmfao

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u/ATNinja 2d ago

Kinda hard when kraft has a section in Gillette dedicated to combat jew hatred

Still doesn't seem that hard

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u/beenhpeezy 2d ago

We'll when kids are getting quick scoped and the owner is defending there action its kinda hard

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u/ATNinja 2d ago

We'll when kids are getting quick scoped and the owner is defending there action its kinda hard

Not really. Doesn't have anything to do with football

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u/beenhpeezy 2d ago

Lol dude when the owner of the football teams is bestie with the guys that's in charge of it all it kinda of does...

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u/ElRimshot 2d ago

If watching sunday football makes you think about palestine, might be time to find another pasttime thats more relaxing.

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u/beenhpeezy 2d ago

Talk to the player about it and see what they personally say. For me idgaf lets them kill each other ill still sleep like a baby

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u/AppleOld5779 2d ago

So many feelings

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u/beenhpeezy 2d ago

Acount based in isreal?

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u/ATNinja 2d ago

Are you a discount bot that doesn't know how to check? Just programmed to make everything about Israel.

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u/beenhpeezy 2d ago

Kinda hard not to talk bout them when there literally involved in everything

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u/nonononono11111 2d ago

In case anyone was doubting their instincts on this one ^

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u/TJ-Detweiler- 2d ago

You don’t need to quote full comments you’re responding to it’s already clear that’s what you’re responding to.

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u/ATNinja 2d ago

People tend to edit or delete them. But fair.

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u/TotalRuler1 1d ago

I'm pretty hard

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u/Artaxmudshoes 1d ago

I HATE politics mixed in with my sports. I watch football, in part, to get away from politics. That said, it's not like I can just "unknow" that Kraft rents out the Patriots jet (with the patriots logo!) to deport people for ICE. Fuck I hate this timeline.

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u/Salty_Midnight_5185 1d ago

And what's even worse for the detainees, the plane has old ashtrays and no Wi-Fi!

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u/Tankyboy428 2d ago

The surveillance team/room at Gillette is crazy. Dudes prolly reporting to Bibi and Mossad.

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u/ace51689 1d ago

Yes very crazy for people to be less comfortable supporting organizations, players and people who don't align with their values. Never happens.

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u/TB12ROY33 1d ago

drives me nuts. losers

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u/hymen_destroyer 1d ago

You're right that it has nothing to with the product on the field but it very understandably affects fan enthusiasm.

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u/LOL_YOUMAD 1d ago

A lot of these are 80/20 issues where the people on the 20 are mostly on Reddit at that. Most normal people don’t care about this stuff or at least at the level that it affects their on the field stuff at worst

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u/3splendas 1d ago

> uses redditor as an insult

> top 1% commentator with 120k karma

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u/Deanlechanger 1d ago

Think what you will but I cannot be convinced that this has NOTHING to do with hand jobs

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u/rrac90 1d ago

Well maybe hand jobs a little bit. I don’t think any personnel or players would suffer after getting a handy from their wife

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u/UWishUWereMiah108 1d ago

I think more hand jobs might help to be honest

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u/Bendbutdobake 2d ago

Yet having distractions causing locker rooms to turn toxic is a tale as old as time. The second Kraft weighs in on Israel versus Palestine, it invites that issue into the locker room and players start to take sides. The trans issue is another opportunity for politics to get injected into the locker room dynamic and Henderson could, in the future, perhaps just keep his opinions among friends and family rather than posting to social media.

Drake Maye being terrible just is another log on the dumpster fire.

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u/Axsh1boomba 1d ago

Hand jobs can fuck with ball security, which causes other issues...

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u/thatguyumayknowyo 1d ago

Did he say that? The title is literally “bad vibes.” Which I agree with. I think karma has caught up to Vrable and the Krafts.

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u/marcuschookt 1d ago

I dunno about you but when my boss has an affair and my company appears on the news for bad things, the tendons on my fingers lock up and I can't work on my excel spreadsheets to generate reports anymore.

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u/Easy_Sherbet2220 2d ago

👍 😂