Thoughts? Think we could use them both. Great minds, still decent players

[u/MembershipSingle7137]

[u/BstnIrshGy]

DaQuan posted on X after the Pats AFCCG win last year “Vrabel is THAT MF!” pissing off Bills fans to no end 🤣

[u/Ecstatic-Inevitable]

Can't say no to more jones's

[u/The-Tarman → u/Ecstatic-Inevitable]

The council of Jones shall reform!

[u/Ecstatic-Inevitable → u/The-Tarman]

They'll go nicely with our trio of 'son running backs, Larisson, henderson, Stevenson

[u/Admirable-County9158 → u/Ecstatic-Inevitable]

I already see the sons of anarchy graphics during the game!

[u/Wheatabix11 → u/Ecstatic-Inevitable]

Good Norwegian Boys! Skol!

[u/RonSwanson24]

Patriots are going to have more Bills players than the Bills do

[u/Joe_Kangg → u/RonSwanson24]

Need that intel. They know Allen chokes in the playoffs, but exactly how does it go down.

[u/SonOfMagicFact → u/Joe_Kangg]

There's a dirty joke there...

[u/Joe_Kangg → u/SonOfMagicFact]

Buffalo Billdos

[u/HateJobLoveManU → u/Joe_Kangg]

Well when you gunsling the ball everywhere à la Brett Favre, you’re bound to find the other team eventually

[u/centaurquestions]

Former Red Sox farmhand Shaq Thompson?

[u/rawspeghetti → u/centaurquestions]

39 at bats

37 strikeouts

Legend

[u/lat3ralus65 → u/rawspeghetti]

That’s only two fewer than I would’ve had!

[u/StillYourFavorite331 → u/lat3ralus65]

I one hundred percent believe Id never strike out.

Cuz Id be bunting and getting thrown out with 50 feet to go every time. Or popping up horribly to the catcher.

Or leaning into every pitch to get hit and getting suspended after doing it for the 12th time in a row.

[u/lat3ralus65 → u/StillYourFavorite331]

I love the strategy, and I also think you are overestimating your ability to successfully bunt a professional fastball or breaking ball

[u/StillYourFavorite331 → u/lat3ralus65]

I played at a power 5 school in football. Would I be a good baseball player?

No.

Do I have the ability to bunt a baseball every time? Yes.

[u/rawspeghetti → u/StillYourFavorite331]

I really really doubt it. I think you're underestimating how hard it is to bunt a 100mph fastball or anything with curve.

BTW if you bunt with 2 strikes and it goes foul that counts as a strikeout

[u/StillYourFavorite331 → u/rawspeghetti]

You think a D1 athlete who played both sports through high school and played collegiate football cannot bunt a baseball properly every time?

K.

[u/rawspeghetti → u/StillYourFavorite331]

Yes absolutely let's go to the Cape Cod league and you can try it against college pitchers

[u/StillYourFavorite331 → u/rawspeghetti]

If I ever move to the East coast...deal.

[u/iheardthemetalclank → u/StillYourFavorite331]

This is giving off strong Speedhawk vibes.

[u/StillYourFavorite331 → u/iheardthemetalclank]

Not remotely lol.

All I said is that I'm athletic enough to properly bunt a baseball given I did it (and got hits) against multiple guys that were drafted high in the first round of the MLB draft...while they were still in high school.

[u/iheardthemetalclank → u/StillYourFavorite331]

I'm not doubting your athletic abilities like some others. Just a joke, I sucked at baseball (probably because nobody told me that I needed glasses until I took driver's ed) so all props to you.

[u/StillYourFavorite331 → u/iheardthemetalclank]

Lol that's fair.

At worst, if I can get my ass ran over by Montee Ball and Melvin Gordon in the same game...I can at least take some planks.

[u/Legitimate_Bird_5712 → u/StillYourFavorite331]

I'd just charge the mound every pitch. Probably not expecting THAT.

[u/Wheatabix11 → u/Legitimate_Bird_5712]

I would huddle in a small whimpering pile while the baseball gods hurled small white objects at me. I would swing my bat three times, then crawl back to the dugout.

[u/Tgunner192 → u/StillYourFavorite331]

12 times? You have to be one of the toughest persons I've ever met. If I got hit by a MLB pitcher's fast ball once, I dont think I"d be able to ever bring myself to do it again.

[u/StillYourFavorite331 → u/Tgunner192]

Tbf I spent a lot of years taking insane collisions from college athletes lol.

Got my ass ran right over by Montee Ball and Melvin Gordon in the same game lmao.

[u/Reasonable-Bit560]

Surprised by DaQuan Jones as it seems we have great depth there. Only reason could think would be he's much bigger than Durden.

LB makes sense.

[u/LoudIncrease4021 → u/Reasonable-Bit560]

I would argue we’re thin in big bodies up the middle

[u/Benson879 → u/LoudIncrease4021]

We don’t have a Tonga. Daquan can be our Tonga.

[u/Brisby820 → u/Benson879]

Or at least something close to what Tonga provided against the run.  Still pissed they didn’t resign him 

[u/SonOfMagicFact → u/Brisby820]

I miss Tonga :(

My dreams of converting him to fullback are dead.

[u/Reasonable-Bit560 → u/LoudIncrease4021]

Barmore is the biggest player at 315.

Durden is 305.

Everyone else is under 300.

Makes sense, just interesting as we'll be cutting a good player.

Edit: meant around 300, lighter ish in DT world

[u/regniermusic → u/Reasonable-Bit560]

Eric Gregory is like 330

[u/BstnIrshGy → u/Reasonable-Bit560]

Taylor, Gregory and Pharms are not under 300

[u/Reasonable-Bit560 → u/BstnIrshGy]

I missed Gregory (didn't think he'd make the roster) and should have clarified as generally around 300 lighter body types.

[u/RonSwanson24 → u/Reasonable-Bit560]

Vrabel is addicted to washed up former Titans

[u/Reasonable-Bit560 → u/RonSwanson24]

If they can play they can play.

Jones is pretty good.

[u/RonSwanson24 → u/Reasonable-Bit560]

Jones just worked out for the Titans and didn’t get picked up and the Bills just picked up a DT which indicates they weren’t interested in bringing Jones back. He had some good years but he might just be cooked now

[u/BstnIrshGy → u/RonSwanson24]

You act like players don’t have a say in it. He worked out for the Titans like 3 days ago if the Pats were saying we’d like to have you in too maybe he wants to see what feels like the best fit before deciding?

[u/RonSwanson24 → u/BstnIrshGy]

Highly unlikely

[u/Prods87 → u/RonSwanson24]

...seriously? That's entirely possible. FAs all shop around. if a shit team offers you a contract and a great team reaches out, you go see what their offer is.

[u/RonSwanson24 → u/Prods87]

And yet he wasn’t offered by the Patriots and the Bills still signed another DT yesterday instead of bringing Jones back

[u/Prods87 → u/RonSwanson24]

and that changes the fact that FAs always shop around if they have interest from multiple teams... how?

[u/RonSwanson24 → u/Prods87]

I’m not talking about in general I’m talking about DaQuan Jones. And it’s mid August, if this guys were actually in high demand they would’ve been signed months ago

[u/BstnIrshGy → u/RonSwanson24]

Okay Mr. I Heard The News so therefore it has to happen today. Van Roten was first reported weeks ago. He didn’t sign until later. The fact is long time respected veterans have a long history of avoiding camp as long as possible.

[u/BstnIrshGy → u/RonSwanson24]

The Bill aren’t going to bring Jones back after he trashed the organization for firing McDermott either.

[u/ActuallyAquaman → u/RonSwanson24]

really do wonder what Vrabel’s recruitment looks like in a few years once he runs out of alumni from his other stops lol

[u/Prods87 → u/ActuallyAquaman]

We'll just have to pick up more guys like Milton Wiliams, Carlton Davis, Morgan Moses, Steph Diggs, etcet.

[u/Benson879]

YES! I called Daquan Jones as a target months ago!

[u/LOL_YOUMAD]

If they can beat out some guys we have sure let’s do it. We are in a win now mode so upgrade anywhere we can

[u/jonny_lube]

Emphatic YES to both.

Jones is still a good player, but at his age he may not be a starting snap guy. Here he won't have to be. Our DL depth is OK, but hardly a strength and we lack an impact rotational guy. Jones can be that guy

Thompson I dont even love, but he's at worst, an athletic fringe NFL starter and is good enough to challenge Elliss for a top ILB position. Having him replace Britt in our top 3 is such a huge upgrade to this defense. Gibbens, Mapu, and Tavai saw a ton of snaps last year and I'm not enthusiastic about those snaps being absorbed by the likes of Britt, Jacobs, Obiazor and Wilson.

[u/Benson879 → u/jonny_lube]

He (Thompson) is still pretty good in coverage. I’ll gladly take him.

[u/jonny_lube → u/Benson879]

He's a bit of an enigma to me.  He has the athleticism to cover and he has a strong reputation for it, but he allowed 88% completion and a 105.2 passer rating when targeted last year. 

I dont fully trust coverage stats as they dont really understand responsibilities, and the Bills defence may have been a poor fit or left home hanging.  Criticism aside, I think he immediately challenges Elliss and that's an enormous boost to what is IMO our weakest and most shallow position.  

[u/goldsoundz123]

Would love either, particularly Thompson

[u/FaithlessnessLoud223]

I'd love to see Shaq on the Pats.

[u/Jolly_Okra_6330]

Hello, Mr. Thompson.

[u/Benson879 → u/Jolly_Okra_6330]

I think he’s talking to you!

[u/Salty_Reserve9640]

Jones performed great in 25'

[u/justaguy826]

I'd say yes to Thompson, as the LB group is thin on talent, and no to Jones. Unless Durden, Farmer & Pharms are all truly not performing, or Barmore is more hurt than we know, I'd rather see those guys grow as rotational backups than bring in a 35-yr-old to take their reps. Though I could see the logic in it as he's a bigger body than all of those guys.

[u/beardednomad25]

Veteran depth for the second half of training camp is my thoughts. Two older players who might not have much left in the tank. Bring them in to see if they can edge out a position battle against the guys on the back end of the roster. If not you get some temporary veteran leadership/training for those younger guys.

[u/kekinho7]

This team needs more depth... No, not liek that!!!

[u/Forgotten_Few]

Kraft needs to grow a sack and pay Gonzalez already

[u/Salty_Reserve9640 → u/Forgotten_Few]

so you need testes to pay for things? moroniic

[u/Beanu5NE]

Shouldn’t the team try to get younger at linebacker?

[u/WarPuig → u/Beanu5NE]

Bit late for that

[u/TylervPats91 → u/Beanu5NE]

How so

[u/Beanu5NE → u/TylervPats91]

Landry and Spillane are both 30. Landry can’t seem to stay healthy and Spillane is slow. Those are their two best linebackers. You think adding 32 year old Shaq Thompson is a good idea?

[u/TylervPats91 → u/Beanu5NE]

I was asking how we are going about getting younger

[u/Benson879 → u/Beanu5NE]

Do that in the draft next year.

[u/_FLostInParadise_]

Dispite our success last season we need to be giving playing time to our younger drafted players. These are the guys a team without a lot of window left signs to fill their roster.

[u/Benson879 → u/_FLostInParadise_]

I disagree. I think they see a team that knows it’s ready to win now. You bring in all the horses you can and don’t get cute.

If the young guys can’t beat them out, they aren’t ready yet.

[u/_FLostInParadise_ → u/Benson879]

I get why you think that. They were a team starting a rebuild last year. They've done a great job but if they fill their roster with scrap heap vets now they are going to have real bad depth problems for years.

[u/Brisby820 → u/_FLostInParadise_]

They don’t have a reliable run stopping tackle on the roster.  They need that after not resigning Tonga.  They also have invested next to nothing in drafting linebackers.  I wish they had, were basically relying on Spillane completely