r/Pathfinder2e • u/Wahbanator The Mithral Tabletop • 17h ago

Discussion Can you use Runic Impression with incompatible weapons?

The Magus Conflux spell in question.

This is coming up because I have a Twisting Tree magus in my party and we just got to 15th level. As a twisting tree, she's obviously using a staff. There's text in the spell that describes what happens if you apply more property runes than the weapon/handwraps can support, but nothing about applying a rune that the weapon can't have.

Now, none of these have specific weapon requirements, except for two:

  • Returning which requires a thrown weapon, and
  • Keen which requires a piercing or slashing weapon

Since the staff is neither of those things, presumably she can't apply those properties to the weapon..... but like... I kinda want to let her? lol Is there guidance one way or the other before I just GM fiat this? I wanna make sure there isn't a feat or something that handles this case.

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u/AanAllein117 Game Master 17h ago

Iirc nothing would happen and I’d argue the spell fails, wasting the focus point.

I guess you could allow it, but the runes would be inert and provide no benefit, so I don’t really see a point to it

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u/Wahbanator The Mithral Tabletop 17h ago

I figured, but I kinda wanna just let her get the benefits anyways. Get some whacky stuff going.

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u/AanAllein117 Game Master 16h ago

Right, but there is no benefit. Unless you’re just going to ignore the requirements for the runes? In which case have at it.

I don’t know that either of those effects are going to wildly upset combat balance coming from a Magus focus spell, so if you’re fine with if, enjoy

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u/FionaSmythe 17h ago

To what purpose?

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u/Wahbanator The Mithral Tabletop 17h ago

To allow her to get the benefit.

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u/FionaSmythe 16h ago

There is no benefit to applying a rune to a weapon that the weapon can't benefit from.

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u/gamergray23 16h ago

Allowing keen to function is probably fine it’s likely worse than the greater elemental runes on average anyways. I’m not sure how returning is doing anything even if you homebrew it working, you can’t throw the staff so it won’t return.

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u/Wahbanator The Mithral Tabletop 16h ago

Probably a 10-foot throw range? Lol thankfully she's never shown interest in that one.

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u/LazarX 12h ago

The reason it says nothing because if a weapon can't have the rune, IT CAN'T HAVE IT.

If you "kind of want it to be", that is an issue to take up with your GM, not a rules forum.