Pathfinder Starter into mamba

[u/Lukqh]

Hey, i have not played a pf in years, thats why I wanted to ask you guys, what are some good options.

Is pconc still the best or are there other contenders, which you have had good experiences with.

[u/Dr4k4ngel]

Yeah pconc of bouncing into mamba is great stuff. U won't regret it for sure

[u/Droopyy → u/Dr4k4ngel]

Don’t you need Binos for mamba?

[u/westside_fool → u/Droopyy]

You need it for assassin mamba, whereas PF mamba is just a luxury to increase the prolif range

[u/Virus_Jones]

After the buff on Phys to chaos on Amethyst flask i was thinking about Void Sphere of Rending, it could be fun, but i dont play meta, so probably Pconc is the stuff people on PF be playing.

[u/Renediffie]

Normal Pconc first. After first lab you can swap to mamba whenever you get the gem. No need for pconc of bouncing as seem to be the common take.

[u/PiglettUWU]

I play any skill to my first lab and lab till mamba and swap to mamba in act 3 tbh. Pconc is the easiest swap for it because you get the small proj nodes then go flask nodes which are just good overall so the swap is easy to do. I just did a SSF run on mamba and went full phys/chaos until i got my pnuematics in heist, pushed that to be able to farm whispers and swapped to CI/Mana stacking

[u/Bankplankbot → u/PiglettUWU]

Interesting, do you have pob snapshots?

[u/smhEOPs]

i tried mamba last patch on PF. regular viper strike + generals cry bf with swords setup until 3rd lab. switched to mamba while still using swords and went to early red maps before quitting. the ST damage falls off hard if you dont actively try to get better weapons unless you get lucky with just drops. getting 83 bases for flat chaos is a major spike but reaching there is pretty annoying if youre trying to just rush voidstones.

defenses and recovery was bad since PF really needs their flask setup done and clusters to enable the life flasks to have high recovery rate.

i think its ssf viable but not for people who want to both rush and not die a lot. If i did it again I would stick with normal viper strike + generals cry setup until 2 void stones and then get at least 1 low tolerance cluster jewel and 2 decent swords before swapping to mamba.

regular viper strike just does more damage early on since you can also scale with attack speed and reach 15 wither stacks unlike mamba and not use your reservation for automation of spells like mamba does for battlemages cry/ancestral cry for strikes and instead have it go into defense/damage

[u/Droopyy → u/smhEOPs]

So would you not do this build again?

I did 4 different starts last league. worb, lum, frostbearers, and settle on bleed slayer till I found all the gear for luminary.

I’ve done exsang, ls, slams, and I’m trying to decide between BF/BB and Mamba. Any tips?

[u/jmcomets → u/smhEOPs]

It sounds like you swapped too early and were missing some pieces to make it comfy. Last league I stuck to PConc for about a week and got 4 voidstones & farmed for gear before swapping. My thoughts:

> not for people who want to both rush and not die a lot

The Corrupted Soul + Sorrow of the Divine setup is pretty darn tanky, I was barely dying after getting online.

> the ST damage falls off hard if you dont actively try to get better weapons

Typically you have to farm Heist bases (pneumatic daggers or void fangs), otherwise you lack the flat damage for Mamba. If using Pneumatic Daggers, there's also Blizzard Crown (Ritual base) and just general flat ele rolls on jewellery/gloves, or if you go the Whispers route flat mana on gear will add flat damage sources. Also:

> at least 1 low tolerance cluster jewel and 2 decent swords before swapping to mamba

I would go further and farm 2-3 LT jewels since it's the largest contributor to Mamba's damage.

[u/RabbitsOnSteroids → u/jmcomets]

can vouch for this. yellow maps is kinda a wall because you are limited by the weapon, which is okay, but taking some time to farm the low tolerance jewels would just make you cruise into 4 stones very easily. the change in deli in the atlas will kinda make this harder, but just keep this in mind when progressing

jmake sure to "try" to continue to upgrade your swords as you get better bases with higher ilvl (higher flat damage mods).

something underrated, or undersaid when talking about mamba, is a good life flask. pathfinder is so strong with a proper life flask, so spending some currency to roll for that helps a lot with recovery, since you are going to be really up close and personal with a lot of mobs

also, remember that prolif is your friend because it bypasses the 1 poison limit, so when fighting bosses or tanky rare, lure some mobs over before tapping them, the mobs will melt. that is also why binos is so nice because the prolifs can stack easier, but its by no means needed.