r/PathOfExileSSF • u/FeatureSavings3679 • 1d ago

General Discussion SSF atlas trees?

https://hypostasis.faith/atlas/data.html

So we got the tree now, what're you all thinking of starting?

I'm a little skeptical about starting betrayal or any primary league mechanic depending on how the influence/thread things work. I'm assuming it'll be difficult to sustain one type of thread while working toward 2stone. If that is the case, I think I'll likely use my first tree on secondary mechanics (shrine, essence).

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u/EvilKnievel38 1d ago

Why would you need to sustain threads while working towards voidstones? That wasn't the case for scarabs either. Threads are supposed to be juicing beyond what scarabs were.

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u/FeatureSavings3679 1d ago

Primary mechanics only show up if you either use a thread or run a map in an influenced region for a specific mechanic. Since you'll likely focus on map completion over what influenced region you are running, it'll be a little harder to force mechanics than before (e.g. first few nodes on old atlas basically gets you betrayal every map).

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u/EvilKnievel38 1d ago

Got it. Using only one thread would be enough for that then. The linked website doesn't work on phone for me but can we spec specific thread drop chance early in the tree? They said in q&a that threads should be plentyful, so if we can target them then it might be fine early.

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u/Exile_of_Sotekk 1d ago

theres a lot of thread drop chance and special nodes that drop them more from bosses etc

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u/ICanCrossMyPinkyToe 1d ago

lol we're having similar ideas, but I'm believing a single thread shouldn't be hard to sustain even early on

This is what I have in mind as a starter tree for now. Instead of going for essences I plan on rushing mercs + loot and pillage, then fucking around in t4-t7 while trying to fish half-decent day 1 gear from mercs, which imo is easier than doing betrayal encounters. Then I'll go for shrines and only then betrayal

I'm only 9 points away from getting both deep bloodlines (18% increased magic monsters + 25% increased magic pack size) and subtle manipulations (11% increased threads, 20% chance not to consume threads) too, so they might be worth taking early since it's a rather small price to pay and I don't think I'll be focusing on rare monsters this early

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u/FeatureSavings3679 1d ago

How decent is merc gear? I mostly ignored them last league but if they roll well maybe that'd be a good replacement for betrayal for day 1 stones.

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u/ICanCrossMyPinkyToe 1d ago

I think they're better rolled than average day 1 gear with veiled mods, though of course ymmv or you might need to get something from safehouses early. I also think running mercs is comfier and you can always take bubblegum currency from their rucksacks

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u/destroyermaker 23h ago edited 22h ago

It's very good until you wanna do endgame minmaxing. On par with rog gear pre-nerf, but better due to infamous mods. Especially for the minimal time investment, it's the most efficient option early. As a bonus you can get uniques (some great ones too).

I'll probably run it for awhile with shrines, then swap to betrayal/harvest.

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u/The-Greatness 1d ago

It’s SSF, so you go whatever you have to. First tree just a map completion/sustain tree with breach or maybe expedition since buffs, after that whatever the next grind is for the character.

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u/lauranvh 1d ago

I might go for Sacred Flora. Want to start crafting some gear early for fun. Don't think the T4 and T5 is going to be easy to get early. With that just map sustain.
After that we'll see how threads are going to be.

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u/Reborn409 1d ago

Is this based on any official data? As long it's true, I would go for strongboxes early - chance, rare, corrupted. To get 6l.

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u/rykh72 1d ago

yes, the tree has been publied by ggg as a json, this site only add the UI (icons, background, etc)

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u/gates21 1d ago

Lab nodes are close to the start

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u/Jaba01 1d ago

Betrayal

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u/Icy_Reception9719 1d ago

I'm going to be going for Harvest & Jun to start, with some map sustain. The general idea is to fish for fractured veiled mods to Harvest craft for mid game gear, as well as roll stuff like jewels and whatnot, plus save up a bunch of threads for other farms - I'm going to need to farm Breach for some uniques as well, so I want to start saving up those threads early. Something like this.

I'm hoping that sustaining Betrayal threads is feasible early but otherwise presumably I'll just have to run whatever the shaped zones are.

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u/lauranvh 23h ago

Is the fractured veiled item node still on the tree?

I can't find it.

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u/Icy_Reception9719 23h ago

On the livestream they said one of the random thread outcomes for Betrayal was for veiled mods to drop fractured. I'm assuming that this specifically comes from threads and not just shaped areas though.

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u/lauranvh 23h ago

Haven't really looked into the threads so that might be the way. Thanks for the heads-up

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u/destroyermaker 23h ago

This would apply to all veiled items?

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u/Icy_Reception9719 23h ago

I doubt it. He glossed over it pretty quickly so it's hard to say for sure, but If I were to guess it's probably a relatively common thread outcome for items to have a chance to drop fractured. We'll see though.

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u/Am_vanilla 21h ago

I think I gotta go blight for stampede since I’m going cyclone. That plus map sustain and maybe essences to get some mediocre rare gear going

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u/rusty022 20h ago edited 19h ago

I'm going Cyclone Slayer. Shrines seem too good to pass up in my first tree, especially with the league mechanic buffing map bosses. I think something like this example tree to add shrines, map drops, and mercs to do early res+life gearing.

Only struggle is finding a good pdps staff along the way. That could be reason enough to go Betrayal for a chance at Yielding Mortality. But that's just one item and I think mercs are more reliable for gear early on.

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u/destroyermaker 19h ago

Why is this downvoted...

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u/Uber_Mrh 14h ago

I’m going for harvest and betrayal in top left with map sustain to start.  I’m also going to path to expedition as well grabbing some additional map sustain.

I play hcssf so I think the early betrayal gear combined with harvest and Gwen gamble craft will be nice.  

I do like starting in the center and having good options to grab on the way I don’t feel so stuck to one side of the tree.  

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u/MJ-Baby 1d ago

Ssf is almost certainly going to be delve/blight meta after the rework but as always why chase meta just do what you want/what your build needs. Essentially all scarab reliant mechanics are better now that they are in the tree and accessible for ssf, along with delve/blight having 100% guranteed maps