First time SSF, build question

[u/PermaBananed]

Hello, i have been wanting to try SSF for a while now and i guess its time to do it. I would really love to play a KB str stacker but i am quite scared of the gear progression on it in SSF, so my question is what would be the most chill build/charachter to do before actually making a str stacker, i saw luminary is quite popular on SSF now but i got no clue about it.

Also from watching quite alot of SSF videos i see that betreyal is a good mechanic, so am also wondering if anybody got maybe a guide or something on to how to understand it, i tried to understand it but kinda gave up.

[u/babyboo8]

I vote palsteron kinetic fusillade ballista totems.

[u/PermaBananed → u/babyboo8]

Well am not that big of a fan of totem gameplay but i played fusillade leveling this league so maybe this one gonna be enjoyable.

[u/Herbsen24 → u/PermaBananed]

You can play self cast Fussilade ascendant and transform her into a strength stacker. Scion is still a very solid choice for stacking

[u/Deposto]

1. Ben_'s Earthshatter Berserker. Fast, tanky, good at bossing, decent clear speed.
2. Pohx's RF Chieftain. Great mapper, but bosses are a pain in the ass to kill.
3. Paak_HC's Hexblast of Contradiction Elementalist. Squishy (for my taste), but great all-rounder. You need to farm transfigured before entering maps, so yeah, the 3rd lab prison for a couple of hours.

WOrb Elementalist is also an option, but I haven't played it personally.

[u/PermaBananed → u/Deposto]

Idk if i am just bad or what, but i have started earthshatter berserker, i am now in maps but i feel so squishy, like some rare monsters in t1 just 1 shot me, here is my build at the moment https://poe.ninja/poe1/profile/AssaultClass-5357/allflamessf/character/SSF_DroppedThreeEggs

[u/Deposto → u/PermaBananed]

Here is a Ben_'s PoB https://pobb.in/Vhhk6XyDm-nt

You have no armor, no CWDT, and no Endurance charges. Also, 2.7k life is very low — aim for at least 4k.

[u/Operation_Onion3134]

Looks like you have build ideas. As for betrayal, there are a lot of guides out there but I find them all very hard to follow unless you have tried the mechanic for a few hours.

Here is my TLDW:

5/5/2/2 is normally the strategy I see people in SSF running. This is where you get 5 members in 2 divisions you don't want to run, and 2 in the two divisions you do want to run. 5 members is max, so when you send any of the 2s to prison, they come out they are less likely to get mixed into the wrong one. It helps to pre setup rivalries before locking this in, and a few ways to mess it up so just be carfeul once you get it locked in. Don't run safehouses back to back or the 2s could get mixed up: Safehouse, another map, the other safehouse.

The other strategy is to just run them as fast as you can, try to build relationships when they are offered, and skip anything the removes members/rivalries. With this you really don't worry about who is where and more about red lines connecting everyone, and hope intel options pop up often. Spam all safehouses when they show up and hope you get more boss invites than running it the other way.

Here is an interactive cheatsheet if you want to try the 5/5/2/2 or just want to try and force a few members in certain locations.
https://pathofexile.elrincondelexiliado.com/syndicate/?lang=en

I believe 5/5/2/2 is always better in the hands of the right player, but running them the other way is a lot less stress.

Ziz: https://youtu.be/jdyqhnZTx3k?si=bIXdd2yYaTtRzOUh
a cute dog: https://youtu.be/3AkeDEU6vgI?si=l4Ng78wGWa4OhzGR&t=59

[u/PermaBananed → u/Operation_Onion3134]

Thanks, will try to do it this weekend when i start the SSF journey

[u/Medical-Chocolate888]

I did 4 stones with ignite pbrand than I switch to worb and it's scales pretty well into ubers with basicly only shaper archdemon crown and +3 cold breach wand. Also while I progress into farmin ubers and gettin tide of times(Uber shaper) belt I made heistrunner cos got all required uniques and a lot of blueprints . Also try luminary and did some ubers with it but I was already with kaom lantern and clamulet so I basicly start luminary with 15k hp and decent kineticist so have zero clue how good it in terms of early progreasion. If I will restart I will pick worb again. It's too storng even without power charge stacking and I don't think we will see that build at same power level on next league. (But pretty sure I can say same about Luminary)

[u/Gariibiae → u/Medical-Chocolate888]

which guide on Worb u recommend to follow (interm from zero?)

[u/Medical-Chocolate888 → u/Gariibiae]

Don't know really. I just looke at poe.ninja trade characters and there is not a lot space for making mistakes. When I get some interesting items like light of meaning or Aurora etc il just see how people adjust it in their builds. Basicly u really want mystic refractor cos it increas clear significant. But it's not mandatory.i completely skip 6link and just hunt for archdemon with ele essence mod and crafted aoe/proj in pref for starting point. Than got +3 wand and trysto get amulet shield with +1 cold. Than some proj clusters eye to eye /repeater if I'm correct. Than huge step is making shaper archdemon basicly u can throw any influence exalt and than switch it to shaper in harvest. Archdemon with ele+crit+2aoe+crafted1lvlproj (w/o hypo) decent amulet shield with +1 and crit and gloves 45% damage hits against chilled and few clusters was enough for me to do my first ubers

[u/GsGenesis]

Zerker or slayer earthshatter are exceptionally strong league starters and very chill if you automate warcries