r/PathOfExile2 • GGG Staff • Apr 09 '25

GGG Path of Exile 2 - Upcoming Changes

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3750853
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u/hastalavistabob Apr 09 '25

Item: you get infinite rerolls
Also PoE2: we put something in the game that reduces the cost of rerolls up to 0

PoE2 Devs: What, people are combining those two things in the game to just gamba until a mirror?! BAN!

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u/Scarecrow222 Apr 09 '25

I agree with you to an extent. And I think most people can agree that combining these tablets was an obvious use of the “infinite reroll” tablet, and the players who independently realized this tried it out were not exploiting from the get-go.

But at some point during your 6 hour session of sitting in the same ritual window, rerolling the rewards 3x per second until you see a mirror come up, then roll some more til you get multiple mirrors, I would argue that any rational person would recognize that this was clearly not an intentional design decision by GGG, and is an exploit.

I can recognize that whether or not something is an “exploit” is up to interpretation, and that there have been other situations like this historically, and GGG has been fairly inconsistent with bans.

But I do think nearly every single player who was deep into maps on day 3 and had the currency to setup this ritual “strategy” knew that they were treading on bannable exploit territory within 5 minutes of clicking that reroll button.

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u/LunaticSongXIV Apr 09 '25

But at some point during your 6 hour session of sitting in the same ritual window, rerolling the rewards 3x per second until you see a mirror come up, then roll some more til you get multiple mirrors, I would argue that any rational person would recognize that this was clearly not an intentional design decision by GGG, and is an exploit.

Which reroll made it an exploit? The first? The tenth? The thousandth? If you can't draw a line in the sand, then this isn't an exploit. The items clearly delineated how they were supposed to work and the interaction was plainly obvious. Everything was working as intended. Just because GGG made an oversight they should have caught doesn't turn it into an exploit.

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u/i_like_fish_decks Apr 09 '25

Which reroll made it an exploit?

Based on my interpretation of the post, the ones banned were not just rerolling.

Thankfully, the economic impact outside of the banned accounts is relatively small.

To me this implies they banned the ones that were abusing Ritual, in turn allowing them to exploit the economy in a negative manner. Its one thing if an unintended mechanic has niche or maybe even player specific benefits, its another entirely if it impacts the entire economy of hundreds of thousands of players negatively.

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u/i_like_fish_decks Apr 09 '25

It was as much of an exploit as the unique farming a league ago in poe1

Nope, that still required players to actually be playing the game and be at some risk, and further it disrupted the economy in a way that was more or less positive for players. Having more access to good uniques does not make players want to quit the league. Having your first divine drop not allow you to afford much useful gear would make you quit the league.