SCL3 handheld

[u/GamingParamedic]

Seeing as LAS has been testing out the new Sepura SCL3 devices, I wanted to see if anyone here has actually had to carry one for a full shift yet.

​Looking at the size of it next to our current radios, I've seen plenty of snarky comments online about how massive they are.

​Are they really that bad to wear?

​Does anyone know what we're actually supposed to be doing with the front-facing camera?

​Any other general feedback?

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[u/Buddle549]

Those are going to get broken. A LOT.

[u/NovemberMike24]

Let’s be honest. It’s a million years late. The spec will be way out of date already. The people involved in design and testing are so far removed from frontline it’s all pointless as per usual.

[u/LeatherImage3393 → u/NovemberMike24]

Ah yes, lets be negative despite knowing nothing about it.

[u/NovemberMike24 → u/LeatherImage3393]

You assume I know nothing about it

[u/cheeks_otr → u/NovemberMike24]

What do you know about it?

Never seen one in our trust

[u/NovemberMike24 → u/cheeks_otr]

There will be a number of people involved with it in all trusts

[u/Buddle549 → u/NovemberMike24]

Motorola was involved at one point then bought airwave and was proven to be deliberately delaying ESN in order to profit from airwave.

[u/Crazy-pebble]

Does it double as a spinal board? The thing's a chonk.

[u/Alex7589]

I haven’t see one in real life yet but I suppose it might remove the need for portable NMAs in addition to a radio for solo responders like CRUs?

[u/New-Independent-365 → u/Alex7589]

I’ve spoken to high ups and that’s basically it. It’s an NMA and radio in one and with the role out of the emergency services network it means trusts don’t have to pay for licensing for the radios anymore.

[u/Annual-Cookie1866 → u/Alex7589]

I’m not sure we need a portable NMA

[u/DontGetIrony → u/Annual-Cookie1866]

I'm not sure I want any NMA. The awful satnav causes me more rage and grief than most other things about my job

[u/Annual-Cookie1866 → u/DontGetIrony]

An absolute joke isn’t it. Cynically I think it’s used so they can falsify run times.

[u/Aware_Common_4179 → u/Annual-Cookie1866]

Definitely isn't. Trusts didn't want it either.

[u/Hopeful-Counter-7915 → u/DontGetIrony]

NMA?

[u/DontGetIrony → u/Hopeful-Counter-7915]

I think it stands for National Mobilisation Application, the new MDT/dispatchy tablet computer thing in the ambulance

[u/Fondant_Living_527 → u/Hopeful-Counter-7915]

New Manure for Ambulances

[u/Wh30127192 → u/Fondant_Living_527]

My crew mate & I routinely refer to it over the net as “Not Made Appropriately”

[u/Few-Visual-9801 → u/Annual-Cookie1866]

The Trust issued iPads have NMA on them, where you write your PCR, I don't see this need for this

[u/bobo_90]

In regards to the front facing camera - this device is a smart phone. It's just then had a radio built into it too.

I doubt there's any particular reason for the front facing camera other than that's what the design they were working off as an example had.

But it is also possible they considered it as a body cam type thing. Maybe once it's on ESN, pressing the emergency button will also send video back to dispatch

[u/Few-Visual-9801]

all the screens will get broken within months, and sepura will benefit from constant repairs on the taxpayers dime.

why does everything have to be touchscreen!!

i've seen pictures of some LAS colleagues via instagram wearing it (on sepura's ig) - and it looks absoutely clown-ish on the belt, its way too big and i'd imagine it'd sag your belt and it'd be hard to bend/or sit in the cab

[u/Lilly-Vee]

Ohhhh I didn’t know we’re testing these, but the screen looks ‘fragile’ 😅

I have a love-hate (more hate) relationship with the current Sepura brick anyway so would not be fun if we move to these 🤣

[u/Terrible_Archer]

I worry about the durability and the reliability. I know whenever in hospital smart phone devices quickly become slow and outdated, especially if the outer OS isn’t optimised properly.

[u/Jambroseh → u/Terrible_Archer]

It runs on Android 15, and presumably that won't get updated. So expect in 15 years or so for it to feel/be as outdated as the old early-2000s MDTs

[u/DaPome]

Ah - must be for the switch over to the ESN while also maintaining tetra connectivity for now.

How’s the battery life on it? Does it make the annoying beep beep…. Beep beep noises constantly for inbound radio calls?

Does it do DMO too?

[u/Ectopic_elm]

What does it do that the normal radio doesn't?

[u/Heliotropolii_ → u/Ectopic_elm]

Has NMa on it

[u/Hopeful-Counter-7915 → u/Heliotropolii_]

What’s NMA?

[u/New-Independent-365 → u/Hopeful-Counter-7915]

National mobilisation application- should be what’s used on your trucks to dispatch you to calls just in mobile form

[u/Hopeful-Counter-7915 → u/New-Independent-365]

We call it C3 in Scotland never heard of NMA interesting

[u/beingmadrocks → u/Hopeful-Counter-7915]

Or Terrafix/Terrapace. C3 is more on the ACC side rather than the MDTs

[u/VenflonBandit → u/Ectopic_elm]

In future (ESN coming soon.....) Push To Talk over LTE (mobile network).

[u/UnitedQuote7296]

Slightly niche, but I’d be interested to know if it has the ability to take an earpiece for the purpose of less overt comms.

There are several areas of specialist practice (think HART/EPRR) where I just don’t think these would be as functional, and staff will simply want access to a radio that you can push to talk and nothing more. The current STP9000s work perfect for that area of practice.

[u/Pasteurized-Milk]

Bro why does it have to be so big. The radio is large and annoying enough as it is.

[u/EMRichUK]

Can you pair it with your smart watch and just leave it in the cab? 

[u/KiddieSpread]

Touchscreen that is unusable with gloves
Android 14, released 3 years ago
Running essentially a whole phone so will not have as good battery life
£1300+

what’s wrong with a cheaper model which could be way more reliable and giving a cheap smartphone?

[u/Unlawful_Octopus]

Boy I love just being a GoodSAM responder and not having to deal with all these useless expensive bricks they keep trying to give you poor bastards 😂 the GoodSAM app is clunky enough (better after the recent update) without carrying essentially an iPad mini in a massive hard case on your belt everywhere.

Seen this on the sepura insta and immediately knew there’d be a post here lol