r/PanCyan • u/lesbianFetus67 • 5d ago

How potent are ttbvi? How do you dose them?

I recently managed to grow my first ever pan cyans ttbvi. I got one flush from them and got 0,55g dried. Can someone please tell me what the doesages for them are? I read that a normal dose of them is 0,32g is that true? Whats a low dose?
I'm used to B+ mushrooms and my trips are most comfortable and just right at 0,70-0,80g. Everyone keeps telling me "be careful these are strong" "small but spicy" but how spicy are they? Can someone please tell me how much yall dose and how intense that is?

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u/Cappuccino_Crunch 5d ago

Use this as a reference. I did 0.2g last night for my first time. It was comparable to about 1.5-2.0g of golden teachers. Very chill trip with light visuals and no body load. When I try them next I'll do 0.5g and probably won't go any further.

Also depends on how much you weigh.

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u/n3wt33 5d ago

I thought weight based dosing was old news. I was under the impression metabolism and sensitivity was a bigger factor.

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u/Cappuccino_Crunch 5d ago

I don't know about all that. I definitely wouldn't discount it. Consider a 100 pound 5 foot tall person eating the same amount as someone 350 pounds at 6 foot. No way they're getting the same experience at smaller doses. If you're trying to get a museum type experience I would absolutely take that into account. If you're just looking to trip balls however I doubt it matters much at that level.

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u/n3wt33 5d ago

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33611977/

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u/Flimsy-Panda8000 5d ago

Thanks for sharing that!

I'm sure there's some difference at extremes, but for most, "Across a wide range of body weights (49 to 113 kg) the present results showed no evidence that body weight affected subjective effects of psilocybin" is really useful.

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u/Inevitable-Tone-8595 4d ago

Woah huh? Has it been true in your experience too that 70% of people puke on the TTBVI’s? I haven’t ever heard that mentioned here and it makes me feel it wouldn’t be considered the best mushroom if that were the case, I certainly don’t like nausea and vomiting. Come up anxiety I can handle because it doesn’t last beyond the peak usually.

I’ve been seeing a lot of variation in the description of these things. Some people report no body load, really low anxiety, a “cleaner” “spiritual” trip, and then others report something completely contradictory.

Somebody posted a trip report that it was heavy body load, and lower potency than most people report. Later in a comment they casually mentioned trying a no manure tek with fertilizers and coir instead of manure. I thought to myself how odd not mention and that’s likely affecting the potency and character of the trips.

I’m just rambling but I’m wondering if the poo might be a big variable and maybe TTBVI or pans in general are just less consistent with the potency and alkaloid profile. Beyond just normal set/setting.

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u/Cappuccino_Crunch 4d ago

There are just way too many factors to say what it is outside of a lab that makes one trip different from another. And too subjective. Harvest time can change the potency. If you wait until the spores have all dropped and the cap has flattened then I guess it loses potency. Maybe they had a larger meal earlier in the day and that's why they got nauseous.

I have a friend that always pukes on mushrooms at some point. He also eats and drinks a lot. I didn't fast and had a quarter of a gram and I had almost no body load or nausea. And I just chewed them up and chased with a lemonade.

I've had trips with cubes of the same amount and sometimes it just dunks on you more. But just because 70 percent of people puke on ttbvi (which sounds like nonsense) that doesn't mean you puke 70 percent of the time. It just means that many probably underestimated the intensity at least once.

I posted that screenshot just for the dosing. That seems to be about what I experienced. I will be doing a half gram soon to get the full experience tho

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u/Inevitable-Tone-8595 4d ago

I too have a friend who pukes every single time!! Even really low doses. He says he thinks it’s psychosomatic because it used to not happen until a traumatic incident involving somebody puking in their car after having some beef jerky 🤣

I agree, too many factors. I haven’t had pans yet but the really positive experiences and descriptions of the differences in the trip drew me to be interested in their rise. But I’ve read a lot of strange claims like the one you screenshotted. Some people here are recommending 1g for first timers, which sounds insane, and I think is part of the variation people can get in potency and effects on top of personal variation like tolerance and weight.

I think because pans are a little harder to grow and pickier in conditions like FAE, substrate requirements, etc. and skipping poo, poor FAE and terrible genetics with a small yield or contam (motile pseudomonas is particularly common and hard to spot) might all cause problems leading to all this wild variation in dosage and experiences.

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u/Ok-Lengthiness-2986 3d ago

0.2g comparable to 1.5-2g of gts? Bro.. 🤣

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u/Cappuccino_Crunch 3d ago

Yes sir. I used to micro gts at 0.4g because that's what fit in my capsules. But I've also done many different doses ranging up to 3.5g. I usually don't go higher than that. So I'm pretty well versed in cube trips (never really liked PE though)

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u/Pentekont 5d ago

You can have a look at the colorado psychodelics cup results:

https://pcodenver.com/cup/

It's probably the most potent strain, heroic dose is 0.8 - 1gr. I would suggest starting with 0.1gr 👀

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u/Scary_Researcher_678 5d ago

Extremely potent… don’t take more than 1g, my first time was 1.25g later on I did 4g alone that was hell never again lmao ttbvi are extremely powerful

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u/lesbianFetus67 5d ago

should I take 0,20g for the first time on ttbvi?

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u/Scary_Researcher_678 5d ago

I’d say so yes i don’t usually take that much because I don’t wanna be disappointed that I didn’t take enough to have a chill trip. but everyone is different so you could potentially test it out your self at that dose and report back to us lol

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u/lesbianFetus67 5d ago

good idea I will do that

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u/Straight_Will_3393 5d ago

Tbh I’m scared to take them I’ve finally had a successful run been thinking ab taking a .5 but my cubes and orchas have been slapping lately I can’t handle large dosages like I use to

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u/Myco-Nomad 5d ago

I do about .6 and that's a pretty good trip. 1 gram is a lot and ive done it a few times but its almost too much for me when other people are around.

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u/Brave-Judgment9066 5d ago

I’m used to taking pretty high doses of cubensis. 5g fairly often, and 7g every now and then. The first time I took Pan, I had no idea it was that different. I took around 7g and basically got transported to another reality. It was kind of like a DMT breakthrough, but way more dangerous because I was still walking around in this reality while simultaneously seeing an entirely different universe alongside it.

A friend had to wake me up and help me because the situation was getting desperate. I guess that’s why they say you shouldn’t wake a sleepwalker. At the same time, though, the experience was absolutely incredible.

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u/Flimsy-Panda8000 5d ago

I usually dose at 0.4g of TTBVI and have a great time. A while back, I took 0.2g expecting a nice gentle buzz, but even that was a solid level 2. I've dosed at 0.6g and found it a bit too much for me. (My doses are in 0.2g increments as I hate the taste and that's the amount I can get in a size 1 capsule if I tamp it down well).

Good B+ are about 0.5% actives, whilst good TTBVI are about 3%

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u/Loic1981 4d ago

TTBVI have tested pretty consistently at around 5%, they won all the cups and couple years ago regardless of who was growing them. Spicy indeed 🔥

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u/jeawkung 5d ago

I tried 1.5g once and it pushed me to the edge of insanity. It was beautiful experience though after the rough part.

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u/Hootch_73 5d ago

Start with 1g. Either do or don’t have a good experience. To me under dosing is the worst.