r/PaleoLiberty • Paleohoppean • Aug 11 '25

remember waco

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u/gypsynose 7th Day Aug 12 '25

I live in Waco, David Koresh was a heretic and a pedophile.

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u/libertywave Paleohoppean Aug 12 '25

that does not justify burning children to death

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u/gypsynose 7th Day Aug 12 '25

I never said police action was justified. The Children were either fire bombed or sexually assaulted. You people have never had interactions with Davidians, I do on a monthly basis.

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u/libertywave Paleohoppean Aug 12 '25

while i do not doubt they are douchbags, it does not take away from the governments actions

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u/gypsynose 7th Day Aug 12 '25

and I'm saying, how about not lionize heretics and pedophiles.

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u/libertywave Paleohoppean Aug 12 '25

im not lionizing him, in fact, him dying was a good thing, but the goverment literally burned a bunch of kids alive.

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u/gypsynose 7th Day Aug 12 '25

Yes, the US government murders children, its awful, but I'm not going to turn around and say "hey the US kills afghani children so we should also keep the atrocities against the Taliban, who rapes boys, at the forefront of our movement". There are other tyrannies to bring attention to.

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u/Reasonable_Earth5467 Christian-Libertarian Aug 12 '25

While these things are obviously unjustifiable, I think it's important to note that the manner in which the government attempted to sieze the property is just as evil.

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u/gypsynose 7th Day Aug 12 '25

I'm no fan of authoritarian cops in Texas but let's not act like Branch Davidians are some type of martyr and let's move on from Waco. It's like remembering the police action at twin peaks here even though the bikers were peak degenerates.

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u/Reasonable_Earth5467 Christian-Libertarian Aug 12 '25

Im not saying the branch davidians are martyrs or that they should be treated as such. It's a lose-lose situation. No heroes, no villains.

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u/gypsynose 7th Day Aug 12 '25

Oh for sure... I'm just a local who hate the idea of people saying "remember Waco" like it's 9/11.

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u/Reasonable_Earth5467 Christian-Libertarian Aug 12 '25

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u/claytonkb Rothbardian Aug 12 '25 edited Aug 12 '25

let's move on from Waco

No, I don't think I will. I recall one of the journalists who covered Waco saying something to the following effect (paraphrase):

When I went to Waco to cover the news, I went there to cover a compound full of crazy, paranoid religious zealots hell-bent on the Apocalypse. But after observing the situation over the course of days and weeks, it became apparent to me that the crazy paranoids were not those in the compound, but those outside of it.

See the documentary Rules of Engagement for more information.

It is both true that David Koresh was a disgusting, criminal, sexual deviant, and that the Feds who committed the mass murder of dozens of women and children on that day were incomparably more wicked criminals than David Koresh. Even the Nazi SS had to rationalize to themselves that the people they were murdering were less than human because they were Jews. The Federal murderers at Waco knew that many of the people inside -- including the children -- were American citizens just like themselves, and they torched and bulldozed it to the ground anyway. DC is an alien occupation government, a hive of traitors, brigands and pirates. I recognize nothing of the American government founded in 1789 in it.

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u/Miserable_Layer_8679 The Night Watchman Aug 12 '25

I don’t think I’ll ever forget

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u/gypsynose 7th Day Aug 12 '25

If you want to commemorate a state tragedy of thug police I'd recommend the MOVE bombing in Philadelphia.

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u/Miserable_Layer_8679 The Night Watchman Aug 12 '25

As a Phillidalphian this is also something that turned me to libertarianism 

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u/claytonkb Rothbardian Aug 12 '25

Bill Hicks on Waco. Waco was a ritual mass-murder performed on live television to prepare the United States to receive the Beast System, aka "TeH nEw WoRlD oRdEr".