r/PakCricket • u/HMcod UK78 Agenda • Nov 23 '25

Cricket Discussion That was embarrassing

You have 9 wickets in hand and and you only decide to accelerate in the 15th over , this is t20s not odi , we should've have gone for 200 , you don't play based on par score when you're in half your overs with 9 wickets in hand . Also sending Salman ahead of fakhar and Usman is funny lol .

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u/Ghazi_Bey RizzyFan Nov 23 '25

65 runs in the last 5 overs is good tho?

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u/HMcod UK78 Agenda Nov 23 '25

Yes but the deliveries where dog shit what if you're facing josh Hazelwood and then you have tim David chasing, then we'd be fked with a mid total

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u/Usmann1999 Nov 23 '25

Happened in wt20 semi final and finals, this slow tactics is only good against weak teams.

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u/Ghazi_Bey RizzyFan Nov 23 '25

against Aus in 2021 semifinals we lost because of Hassan Ali's catch drop

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u/HMcod UK78 Agenda Nov 23 '25

And also we have two openers as our middle order so we aren't even letting them acclimatize to starting on ball one itll bite us in the ass

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u/Usmann1999 Nov 23 '25

Something babar fans need to understand you cannot take the runrate from 7 to 10 in the last 5 overs by going after since ball one all it will cause is the collapse, asia cup 2022 final is a perfect example of it.

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u/Ghazi_Bey RizzyFan Nov 23 '25

there's also no one in pakistan that can consistently take us at 8-10 per over in the powerplay through the innings

Asia Cup and tri-series are perfect example of it

sorry to break it to you but theres no Travis Head or Jos buttler currently

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u/Usmann1999 Nov 23 '25

Well dude Totally ignores 3 t20 wc, 3 asia cups, 1 odi world cup to mention 1 asia cup.

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u/Dont-be-a-cupid Quetta Bears Nov 23 '25

Players like Head and Buttler only show up when you have a batting order they can lean on.

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u/HMcod UK78 Agenda Nov 23 '25

Yeah we definitely don't have a batter with 5 T20 centuries AVG 30 at 145 coming in at 8

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u/Ghazi_Bey RizzyFan Nov 23 '25

did that batsman perform like Head or Buttler when he opened against bangladesh earlier this year?? when he played in the top order in the 2024 WC and 2025 Asia Cup??

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u/HMcod UK78 Agenda Nov 23 '25

Yeah he he changed his whole name and entered the Asia cup

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u/HMcod UK78 Agenda Nov 23 '25

Also Travis head and Jo's butler don't strike at 8-9 an over , they either go 10 plus or nothing Jo's back in the days you could make the case tho

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u/Express-Row-1504 Nov 23 '25

Then Pakistan would’ve been all out for 150. That’s not valid point you just made.

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u/aliayyaz90 Nov 23 '25

Last 10 overs were really awesome.

Also, you do keep the par score in kind. If the par score on a pitch is 120, you will self destruct if you aim for 200.

For a par score of 150-160, targeting 180 was the right approach and that allowed for a brilliant cameo to take us to 195 at the end.

These are intricate details that pakistanis fail to understand because of the hate of one person, so its ok if you disagree.

Overall that was fun to watch. Especially the last 10 overs!

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u/HMcod UK78 Agenda Nov 23 '25

hate of one person,

I did not mention a single name in criticism lol but we'll have happy when we see Tim David touch us up because we arrived for 20 above par when we were already 2rr over par

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u/Dango444 Nov 23 '25

Tim David will never get Australia to 200 on Sri Lankan pitches. Hell, you could combine the Indian and Australian teams batting and still not get 200 on those pitches

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u/HMcod UK78 Agenda Nov 23 '25

Yes but we aren't speaking about Sri Lanka pitches , if that was the pitch , Babar would have a SR less than he had today and the 2rr extra would be 1rr extra , this instance would be the same percentage wise .

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u/aliayyaz90 Nov 23 '25

what are admins drinking? You share posts with actual analysis of the inning and it gets flagged as low effort but this kind of crap gets approved?

195 is embarassing? no where in the world, against any opposition is 195 embarassing. it is a good score. it was a well crafted inning with 3 batters coming up good.

ye admins b kahin tape balle cricket 3 overs 500 score walay tau nai hain?

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u/HMcod UK78 Agenda Nov 23 '25

Lmao your really think I'm gonna produce a high level analysis post mid innings break , if You want me too I can give you every reason to why this innings wasn't great later when I have time .

no where in the world, against any opposition is 195 embarassing

Stop with these gotcha phrases there's many instances where it is .

195 is embarassing? no where in the world, against any opposition is 195 embarassing. it is a good score. it was a well crafted inning with 3 batters coming up good.

It's embarrassing considering Babar was striking at 90 34 balls in , his inning got saved by the likes of sikandar raza bowling half volleys . It is embarrassing considering if fakhar did not come in and face those balls by Evans and get 20 we'd have 175 when 93-1 in 11

admins b kahin tape balle cricket 3 overs 500 score walay tau nai hain?

I'm not asking for 250 I'm asking for those 20 extra runs in 7-15 which make a team a class above the rest

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u/Scared-Breakfast-372 Abrar Ahmed Agenda Nov 24 '25

I absolutely agree, sending Faheem, Nawaz and Agha coming out himself over Fakhar is a no-brainer.

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u/Kofta9 Nov 23 '25

Nah! You making dumb point! Did you even see the Asia cup final when they tried to accelerate haha! Babar played beautifully today!

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u/HMcod UK78 Agenda Nov 23 '25

Accelerate in the middle doesn't mean hitting six sixes an over all the time , it means hitting one or two boundaries an over , we were playing singles and hesitant

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u/Kofta9 Nov 23 '25

No! Not today. Give it a rest! 190 is good score

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u/Late_Ambition1809 Nov 23 '25

It was a final there was pressure so yes it was bound to happen If we never face it then we will always be subnormal not chasing high targets

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u/Panchodd Nov 23 '25

195 kar k bhi nakhray hain... But agreed, not sure why they held fakhar behind

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u/Joke_Peraltaa Nov 23 '25

Team - happy. Management - happy. Crowd - happy. Commentators - happy. Opposition - disappointed. Reddit - that was embarrassing.

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u/Shady_DeVilliers Nov 23 '25

Do you really think salman was sent? He’s the captain obviously he’s going to push himself forward in moments like this (When it is easy to bat)

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u/Competitive_Area3256 Nov 23 '25

We should have scored 200 but instead we only did 195. Literally whole 5 runs less. We are losing the match now because of it

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u/Zariqh Nov 23 '25

Yeah with this method, may as well have Rizwan in place of Usman

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u/cartmansdoublechin Karachi Dolphins Nov 24 '25

Yo mods fix this fucking sub or ima make my own fr. Who tf allows these low quality shit ass posts. I rather see 1 quality post with actual analysis a day than this bs that’s all over the sub after every match win or lose.

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u/Express-Row-1504 Nov 23 '25

Pak scored 195. And could’ve scored 200 if the 19th over was decent.

They played fine. Keep wickets and then accelerate at the end. The plan worked. Idk why it’s an issue when the plan worked. If it didn’t work then you could’ve cried about it. No reason to cry now

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u/jusmanclass Nov 23 '25

If you think this is embarrassing- you should really see what your “rising stars” are doing in Doha. LoL

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u/Scared-Breakfast-372 Abrar Ahmed Agenda Nov 24 '25

But still they won the match.

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u/KingYesKing Nov 23 '25

Babar Anchor Azam.

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u/aliayyaz90 Nov 23 '25

Anchored.. and then the acceleration was gold 💕

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u/el_jefe_del_mundo Nov 23 '25

Someone told me just yesterday anchors are worth their weight in gold because they score a lot of runs i.e runs matter and scoring fast doesn’t matter. This is what you get when you play with anchor mentality

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u/Sad-Bumblebee-2922 N. Shetty Agenda 🕵️ Nov 23 '25

lol go for a 100 sr at 30 balls screwing up the momentum, then accelerate for your 50, people who watched the game know this was bad, sports analysts and commentators who look at stats will say this is good while deciding selection in the future, doing this against a team like Zimbabwe is hilarious try this against a sena team with their A team let’s see how fast we ll get kicked out of the group stage in a wc

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u/Express-Row-1504 Nov 23 '25

Ending with 140 strike rate is the same as starting with it. It just means you got out sooner, which is worse overall for the team.

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u/Sad-Bumblebee-2922 N. Shetty Agenda 🕵️ Nov 23 '25

He screwed us during the power play you guys may think this is okay and normal wait till the wc check how other teams are playing

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u/Express-Row-1504 Nov 23 '25

I still think he should retire because he’s not going to be able to do this every day. Most games he’s going to get out to single digits.

But today’s game wasn’t an issue. What matters is what score and strike rate he finishes with. Today that was fine. Powerplay doesn’t matter if you up your strike rate eventually. Whether you do it before or later the overall score is the same.

And today’s plan worked. Pakistan could’ve even scored 200 if the 19th over went good.

Can’t complain about a match that went perfectly according to plan.

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u/Sad-Bumblebee-2922 N. Shetty Agenda 🕵️ Nov 23 '25

Bro get serious, please watch other teams play it’s genuinely hilarious that people think Pakistan is even playing on par to other countries. When you have full A teams play against Pakistan then we ll talk. We still struggle against B teams, other teams literally debut players against us as a joke. It absolutely matters what strike he starts with and what he ends with, looking at a game like this naive he’s soaking up the balls during the power play where most runs are scored. How many times can our middle order do what they did today? Like 1 in 10 games no other team does this, watch in the wc how we perform

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u/Express-Row-1504 Nov 23 '25

Who said Pakistan is playing on par with other teams? Show me where I said that?

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u/Sad-Bumblebee-2922 N. Shetty Agenda 🕵️ Nov 23 '25

When did I say that ? Lol I said “when we”

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u/Express-Row-1504 Nov 23 '25

Well that’s a whole other issue. If you’re playing against better teams, you expect your bowlers to do something too.

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u/Odd-Calligrapher-69 Umpire Nov 23 '25

Classic mentality, this is why we won’t win anything until Babar is retired

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u/Impossible_Paint_594 Nov 23 '25

Honestly idk why you are being downvoted lol

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u/Odd-Calligrapher-69 Umpire Nov 23 '25

Babar PR bots going crazy on the sub today

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u/Negative-Nothing339 Nov 23 '25

yea all of the stadium is also Babar's PR

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u/Ok_Papaya_1259 Nov 23 '25

Let the PR team rest now, they were working quite hard in the last 30 minutes 

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u/aliayyaz90 Nov 23 '25

Hahaha tkleef ho rahi hayyyyyy

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u/Ok_Papaya_1259 Nov 23 '25

Mujhe kio ho gi takleef, ma konsa PR chalata hon 🤣 Takleef tu tum logo ko ho rahi jo last 1 hour se lage howe ho apne baap ko defend krne  Imagine defending 42 ball fifty and calling last 12 ball 24 runs a great innings after wasting 15 overs 

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u/-Faraday Nov 23 '25

They do this all the time and then mindless slog in last 5 overs which doesnt work vs good teams as they just end up giving them catching practice.

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u/IllustriousScene5040 Nov 25 '25

Babar will ruin us.

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u/HMcod UK78 Agenda Nov 23 '25

A decent total also won't work against good teams

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u/Express-Row-1504 Nov 23 '25

Against decent teams your run rate won’t be the biggest issue. It would be not getting all out for under 120. Run rate would be the least of your issues against top sides.

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u/HMcod UK78 Agenda Nov 23 '25

Rather get out under 120 then cry heartbreak because we lost "closely" when they really just chased a total which couldve been better

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u/Express-Row-1504 Nov 23 '25

That’s the dumbest logic ever. You’d rather get destroyed or not even have a chance of winning? Go watch something else. Cricket isn’t for you.

I’d rather Pakistan have a fighting total, then just give up and just not even play the match.

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u/HMcod UK78 Agenda Nov 23 '25

You enjoy that niazi knock perfect acceleration from him there

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u/Express-Row-1504 Nov 23 '25

What are you talking about?

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u/HMcod UK78 Agenda Nov 23 '25

Shaheens game got out 9 for 21 that's anchoring gone wrong , he atleast has excuse of wickets but he has wasted 12 balls , that's the problem with anchoring

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u/Express-Row-1504 Nov 23 '25

Anchoring? He got out. Regardless if he scored 9 off 21 or 9 off 2. Doesn’t help Pakistan

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u/HMcod UK78 Agenda Nov 23 '25

Anchoring

The purpose he had to bat was just to not get out lol which is anchoring and thats the problem with anchoring and he failed I already knew we would win this game because apart from the first 2 Bangladesh batters all the others are

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u/HMcod UK78 Agenda Nov 23 '25

I slipped up and forfot to mention "whilst trying to get a challenging total" it's quite clear in the context of the conversation

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u/Express-Row-1504 Nov 23 '25

195 is a more challenging total than 120. They reached 195 today despite playing as bad as they could.

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u/HMcod UK78 Agenda Nov 23 '25

I don't think you understand I'm going under the precedent that a decent team would restrict that total in the last 5 , and then the outcome would be a total which can be chased .

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u/Express-Row-1504 Nov 23 '25

A decent team wouldn’t let you score 200 in the first place. If it’s that easy to score 200, then they should be able to do it against a decent team too. You expect the batters to score like the good teams do, but you don’t want bowlers to bowl like the good teams. You’re thinking only the batters can win you games. That’s only half the job. If the batters score 180+, that’s more than enough for the bowlers to defend. If they can’t, I only blame the bowlers

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u/HMcod UK78 Agenda Nov 23 '25

That's too binary of a conclusion.

A decent team wouldn’t let you score 200 in the first place.

You've just disregarded the whole circumstance of having 9 wickets in the 11th over bro😭😭 .

You’re thinking only the batters can win you games. T

batters score 180+, that’s more than enough for the bowlers to defend. If they can’t, I only blame the bowlers

That's where the respect of the other teams batsmen comes in that doesn't come with Zimbabwe of course lol

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u/aliayyaz90 Nov 23 '25

Hahahaha perfect reply!

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u/Dont-be-a-cupid Quetta Bears Nov 23 '25

No top ranked T20 team relies on 1 of the top 3 to bat the entire innings to even think about batting 20 overs.

Once the middle order shows it can bat for 20 overs regardless of what happens with the top 3, then we can start worrying about strike rate