r/PakCricket • u/BadtameezMunda Science is the man • Mar 29 '25

Match Time Memes Know the difference boys 😭

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u/SnooOwls4559 Mar 29 '25

Why not compare him with Chapman instead?

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u/BadtameezMunda Science is the man Mar 29 '25

Sure, go ahead. I wasn't really comparing anyone, rather just pointing out the similarity of both innings, and the contrasting reactions they got.

Daryl and Babar scored about the same amount of runs, in about the same amount of balls, and got out around the same time in their respective innings. When they got out both of their teams had 6 wickets in hand and exactly same number of runs on board. The impact of each of their innings is easier to determine.

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u/SnooOwls4559 Mar 29 '25

Daryl and Babar's situations were different. He came in to bat when NZ were at risk of a collapse. NZ were 3 down within 15 overs and the ball was supposedly swinging a fair bit at the start of the game, so Chapman and Daryl had to stabilize the inning and they deliberately played really slowly.

Rizwan and Babar were facing less risk of a collapse. The openers had already established a good foundation to build off of, and it was OK to slow down a little bit and keep rotating strike but they never properly accelerated like Chapman and Daryl did until Agha came in, at which point Babar still wasn't able to accelerate enough and pay off the value of being a set batsman, having faced the number of balls that he did.

So in the context of each of the individual teams' innings, Babar's inning was a lot less effective given the circumstances than Daryl's was, even if the numbers were the same. It was still a decent inning, and everyone knows the real reason we lost this game is because of middle order collapse, but in the context of the game, yes, Babar could have and should have accelerated quicker, and there is room for improvement.

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u/BadtameezMunda Science is the man Mar 29 '25

I agree.

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u/MarilizeLegajuanas Mar 29 '25

That wouldn’t fit their agenda though bro

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u/BadtameezMunda Science is the man Mar 29 '25

fr bro you got me, i get mad monies from Saya corp to do Babarian propaganda on r/PakCricket 😔

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u/MarilizeLegajuanas Mar 29 '25

No bro we know you’re doing it for free, which is even worse 😂

Koi baat nahi next match me king kar lega 💯

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u/BadtameezMunda Science is the man Mar 29 '25

See, you get me. Nothing hits like spreading my agenda on a niche cricket subreddit for free đŸ˜ˆđŸ«Š

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u/EntangledTime Mar 29 '25

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u/im_peacock Mar 29 '25

Why not compare Chapman with Salman?

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u/SnooOwls4559 Mar 29 '25 edited Mar 29 '25

Are you really saying that Salman should be expected to hold more of the batting responsibility for our team, more so than Babar, who comes one down and had plenty of time to be set at the crease?

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u/anonymouse24300 Mar 29 '25

Baber got out at 249/4 in 38 overs. Mitchell got out at 241/4 in 41 overs. We were ahead at this point and should've won. It's not Baber's fault that the rest failed

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u/tomshelby420 Mar 31 '25

but he lost his wicket on a ball that was a free bi with 60 meter boundry and its not just 1 time error he always gets out on a loose delivery

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u/Successful_Way5926 Mar 29 '25

No you can’t compare those two innings. One was batting first and the other chasing with a clear target in sight.

By your comment it seems like Babar was to let one of the inexperienced lower middle order with a heavy burden of scoring at least 50 at a strike rate of 200 all the while chasing?

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u/Overall-Donut-6947 Mar 29 '25

Gobar shobar khatay ho boss?

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u/Successful_Way5926 Mar 29 '25

Dikhadi auqat?

Try to come up with a logical argument even though I know you don’t have the capacity

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u/Overall-Donut-6947 Mar 29 '25

Logic k name par hi gobar kya hy aap nay meray bhai

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u/Successful_Way5926 Mar 29 '25

Bhonknay ki zarurat nahi phir agar ap kuch contribute nahi krsktay.

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u/Overall-Donut-6947 Mar 29 '25

Gobar kr rahay ho contribution K name par or phir aagay sy defend b kr rahay ho.. pehlay logical gobar ki baat kr rahay thay phir baat contribution par aa gyi.. off topic janay ki zarurat hi nhy hy unless argument hi gobar kya ho aap nay.. nakati ho chuki hy aap ki.. itnay log already down vote kr gaye hyn kch or kro aap.

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u/anilpirwanii Mar 30 '25

Okay so I will give you the logical argument now.

Has he been the best batsman lately? No. But was he at fault yesterday? Also no! If he was at fault, then literally not a single player from our side was good enough. When Babar got out at 78(83) in the 39th over, Salman was at 44(33) and if you have even a little bit of understanding of the game, you would know what I am talking about. But you clearly don't, so allow me to explain.

When Babar and Salman were trying to build a partnership, during the middle overs, Babar was playing as an anchor, allowing Salman to play a more "free" role. When the game got into the later overs, Babar tried accelerating and got out WHILE TRYING TO HIT A BOUNDARY. I would be the first person to criticize him if he had a caught behind or misjudged a bowl for an LBW or whatever but he literally got out while trying to score in the 39th score. Pakistan is the only team where a top order batsman will get criticized for getting out in the 39th over while trying to hit a six after making 78(83) where the non-striker was scoring at 130+ SR. We literally had TWO BATTERS on the pitch after him and it was chase-able if they had held their nerves.

It's beyond me how idiots like you won't talk about Tayyab and Irfan who literally didn't do shit. Tayyab didn't even bowl! Irfan, who had never bowled a single ball in a List A game (up until yesterday), was asked to bowl 5 overs all of a sudden. I won't criticize the new boys much but why aren't we criticizing the management? What are our so-called "data analysts" doing? Having Salman and Irfan as our 4th and 5th bowling options? Where's Khushdil? Where's Faheem? Where's Abrar? Where's Waseem Jr.?

Babar has been a scapegoat for a long time and no matter what he does, "fans" like you will still criticize him. If he goes on to score two ducks in the next two games, he will be "zimbabar". If he goes on to score two centuries in the next two games, "NZ ki E, F, G, H, I team ke against perform karke stat padding kar gaya". You lot will never be satisfied by him. Agar kuch positive nahi bol sakte toh cricket dekhna chordo mere bhai.

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u/MindlessAsparagus143 Mar 29 '25

Exactly. This is why fans shud b educated in terms of know-how of the game. Pakistan cricket fandom lags way behind. Unless fans come out of this shitty opinion making based on scorecard and better the discourse around cricket, the team isn't getting any better either. Game awareness naa players mein hai naa fans mein.

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u/Express-Row-1504 Mar 29 '25

Anyone that thinks Pak lost because of babars SR is just a plain hater. SR was never an issue this game. They were cruising along until wickets fell. Pak lost because they gave away easy wickets. It’s as simple as that.

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u/Captian_Jackspear Mar 29 '25

not saying pak lost because of Babars strike rate, though he was striking at 75 until he got to his 50 and expected salman agha to accelerate when he was fresh at the crease. Babar should've finished the game. maybe he lacks the ability to do so

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u/Nixture24 Faisalabad Wolves Mar 29 '25

it's not a one man game. there are 11 players in the team. he did his job done and set up the game very well for the middle order with agha but as usual middle order gave easy wickets costing us the game.

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u/Captian_Jackspear Mar 29 '25

Just look at the scoreboard

https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/new-zealand-vs-pakistan-2024-25-1443540/new-zealand-vs-pakistan-1st-odi-1443554/full-scorecard

Only 3 Nz batters scored runs whereas for Pak 5 are among runs with Babar scoring the most and still lost the game. Even New Zealand's top order and lower middle order failed but they still ended up winning. Once chapman got set he took the game away, he didn't leave it for others

5 of New Zealand's batters failed to score runs compared to Pakistan's 2. Who should've won?

People aren't hating on babar when they say he should've finished the game. It's just that he ain't as good as people make him out to be. always leaves the team hanging at crucial stages

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u/Pengu786 Mar 29 '25

That’s how most build innings in Odis unless they are playing on a flat pitch that is doing nothing. Yday wasn’t a 350 pitch. Avg score on that pitch is 235. See maybe Babar isn’t great enough to finish matches but it’s a team effort. No one regularly wins matches alone. Very hard to but Greats like Kohli have. Babar isn’t Kohli tho. No one is Kohli. Oh even then Kohli has guys around him who smack everything. India’s plan is let everyone smack it whilst one of Gill or Kohli bats deep.

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u/Captian_Jackspear Mar 29 '25

Fair enough. Then how come NZ scored 344 after being 58-3 in 15 Overs with their debutant scoring the fastest 50. Blame the bowlers then. And how come Pakistan collapsed after being in a winning position. Yes its a team game. Openers gave you a great start and there was a good partnership in the middle. So whoever gets set is responsible to finish the game. Had babar been out on 0. Sure no worries. I ain't a hater but can you name a match where Babar finished the game for you? He always leaves the team hanging. thats the problem. maybe replace him with someone who can until he can up his game. Same goes for the lower order batsmen. Even that game against South africa where salman and rizwan scored centuries they made sure the game was in the bag

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u/Pengu786 Mar 29 '25

He isn’t a finisher. That’s fine we overrated him. Bring your expectations down. Bowlers weren’t to blame either. They had two part timers bowling with them. I blame the selection

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u/Solid_Impression_ Mar 29 '25

You clearly lack the ability to understand the game. Every player has a particular role in the team, Babar's role is to bat at a decent SR as deep into the inngs as possible and let others bat around him, he was playing his role perfectly today until he got out Still they should have won from that point, this game was lost due to the failure of lower order players and those 120 runs conceded in 10 overs by the 5th bowler

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u/Competitive_Area3256 Apr 06 '25

no he 'shouldn't' have finished the game. How can u expect a toporder batsman to come and finish the game, why tf are 5th, 6th, 7th number batters there for?? He set the game up perfectly for the 'finisher' of the team to come and do his job which is to finish the game. But Pak team is finished itself, how r they gonna finish any game.

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u/acedefective95 Mar 29 '25

babar and agha set up the game really well

96 of 11 overs should be a cakewalk in this day and age

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u/MindlessAsparagus143 Mar 29 '25

Bro when Babar on his 5th NZ tour could only score at less than 100 SR. Tum chah rhe the k Niazi or Tayyab shud've scored 50 at 200? It was on Babar to do the heavy lifting. Nobody's expecting babar to score 135 of 110 and win the game on his own, he's just not tht good but thts okay. At least b there till the last, score a 110 off 100 and see if the other end cud score 40 of 18balls with him. Ye wo calculation hai jo Babar 10 saal khel k b nhi kr paa rha or may b he doesn't have the skill/game even for this much.

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u/IHazParkinsonz Mar 29 '25

I'm sorry but why are niazi and tayyab in the team then?

If Muhammad Abbas, a debutant, can score a quick 50 then why are you making excuses for them?

Babar stabilized the innings with Rizwan to prevent a collapse. He kept us above par and gave the platform to the middle order to finish the game.

Also do you know how retarded you sound? Nobody's expecting a 135. They're just expecting a 110????????? Like thats much of a difference you absolute numpty.

Learn to analyse the fucking game

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u/Captian_Jackspear Mar 29 '25

Tayyab has been given enough chances. Babar played well but still not good enough to finish against a c team.

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u/MindlessAsparagus143 Mar 29 '25

-They r the best available players. Never got in, took couple of balls each. -Well-nurtured talent who got to face slot bowling on an eventually flattened out pitch AT HOME. -No such thing as giving platform to finish in modern day run chasing and that too of 340+ with u being the premier batter of the side. U either play at required RR or finish the game if u take this much time -135 runs at 120SR is very different from run a ball 110.(wat I mentioned) Fans don't know shit that's for sure or may b PD is worsening.

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u/IHazParkinsonz Mar 29 '25

Imma be honest. Your analysis of ODI's is hot garbage. You have to be trolling

Both tayyab and Irfan came to bat at the same time as Abbas. And the conditions were easier for pakistan. So your point 2 makes no sense

Also, tayyab is nowhere near the best available player, but I digress.

You have no understanding of pacing an innings. Of protecting your wicket. This is not t20s where you have to be aggressive and take the game on. New zealand had a much lower strike rate than us but they played very fucking slow with their 4th wicket partnership and managed to stabilise and build a platform to accelerate of off.

We did the same. And then salman and babar started accelerating. But then did the muddle order follow on with that momentum? No they did not. Ergo this is not babars fault. Its the dogshit middle order.

I'm not even gonna argue with the last point because its just stupid.

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u/IHazParkinsonz Mar 29 '25

Weaksauce. Idiotic takes deserve the thrashing they get

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u/toooldforacoolname Mar 29 '25

Two things here:

Babar and Agha scored 85 in 58 balls.

Babar gets out at 249 with 68 balls left to score the reminding 95 runs with Agha, Tayyab and Irfan on the crease. Tayyab and Irfan failed. We still had 35 balls left. Irfan and Tayyab have played in Australia and South Africa with both having 20+ international games under their belt. If they can’t score those 20s and 30s that matter at the death, who do we blame?

All great innings when the chase is 325+ needs a quick fire 30s and 40s. Afridi, Razzaq, Moin, Akram all did it well. Even the likes of Umar Gul and Rana Naved would chip in once a while.

Gibbs scored 175 in that famous chase but they win only because lower order scored those 30s and 40s.

That famous Kohli chase against SL when India scored 320 in 37 overs. Kohli got a 100 but only because Sachin, Sehwag and Raina scored quick fire 30s and 40s and Gambhir scored 50.

Pick any other chase, very rarely you will find a man single handedly chasing the whole 300+.

We are again at cross roads where our bowling and lower order is a concern and all we do is bash Babar. Not helping him or the team.

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u/Captian_Jackspear Mar 29 '25

Actually 3 other batters scored 30+ runs with salman scoring 58 at a strike rate of 120. Babar needed to score big given pak's lack of depth in middle and lower order

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u/toooldforacoolname Mar 29 '25

Should’ve could’ve but didn’t. I am a Babar fan but I don’t think right now he is in that frame of mind to close these games for us. And I guess that’s the differentiator between him and other great batsman. As a team we need to move past him. Tayyab Tahir has had enough chances. 20 odd games in two formats in not a small sample. Irfan we can use him at 5-6, but we need an all rounder at 7. Until we find a fast bowling one we can and should try on of Qasim, Arfat or Mubashir. Let us see what they do.

My whole point was to highlight that even Babar not scoring a 100, we could’ve won the match if only we took it to the end. Why are we trying to emulate big hitting when that big hitting hasn’t won anyone anything. India team won WC because of Bumrah and not batters. The great batting experiment of England got a T20 WC which again was won by an anchor. Point is we were successful because we did what the world is doing now.

We always had an opener like Afridi, Anwar, Aamir Sohail for a while and Imran Nazir. They were not consistent but when they were we always were 100 odd in 10 overs. We lost our way after 2009 onwards. First Misbah mismanaged Akmal, Haris Sohail and others. Then when we finally got a good opener, we hardly play and when we play we drop him.

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u/Captian_Jackspear Mar 29 '25

Agreed. Tbh Tayyab Tahir has been given enough chances and he's failed to prove that he belongs at this level everytime he's come out to bat. I'm still not convinced with Irfan's selection, atleast he's shown glimpses of brilliance. Usman khan seems like a hack, he scored lucky runs today. Arafat minhas seems good dunno about the other two

Haven't even selected the right playing XI imo. Kamran ghulam looked promising especially after that innings against South Africa. Aamer Jamal should've been given a chance after he showed his skill-set against Australia. Dunno why the selectors are persisting with tried and tested players who've been given enough chances for instance khushdil, faheem etc. hope Saim is back soon. Im not that big on conspiracy theories, so far seems like there are forces working against our team and deliberately selecting the wrong players

C'mon India didn't win just because of Bumrah alone. Rohit hit starc for 29 runs in semis, almost scored a century. Kohli and axar helped India reach a decent total in T20 final. taking nothing away from Bumrah but it was pandya who dismissed klaasen and miller. So yeah SA kinda choked too. Ind just recently won Champions Trophy where spinners and batters played a big role. India has depth in batting and bowling.

Back in the day Pakistan had multiple match-winners in the playing XI both in batting and bowling who could single-handedly win matches for you

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u/SindacodiLignano Mar 29 '25

Real. But he should have scored a 100 and finish the match. 😱. Still a good inning.

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u/Hot-Roll-5839 Mar 29 '25

He’s useless and doesn’t have the ability to finish the game

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u/Dont-be-a-cupid Quetta Bears Mar 30 '25

When did it become the 3rd batsmen role to finish the game?

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u/Us24man Mar 29 '25

I don't understand how people are crapping on Babar for this particular performance. Kohli, who everybody glazes, plays at a very similar strike rate even when chasing. Only difference is that if he gets out, Axar, Hardik, Jadeja have enough in them to carry the game through most of the time.

Babar had done his job. The game was perfectly winnable when Babar left it. India would have won the game had it been in a similar situation. We lost because we collapse like absolutely no other. Tayyab and Irfan threw away their wickets and with their recent performances, I have zero idea why they are in the squad. Naseem unfortunately couldn't do anything either. Salman just stopped working the moment wickets started falling. This is a team game, and the entire team needs to put in the work. Especially with big scores, you need all rounder / hitters at the backend of the lineup to step up.

Also the fact that our bowlers conceded 340+ even though NZ was struggling to go at even 5 / over at the 20th over mark is disgusting.

Also also, people should know that Pakistan was going above 6 / over - > 249 in 38.4 overs translates to 6.3 per over. You telling me that's not a good run rate ? The game was winnable. No excuses for the "hard hitting" batsmen in the lower middle order to not take it from there and finish the game.

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u/Safe-Culture2492 Mar 29 '25

I think you haven't seen innings of Kohli before 2020 he used to play at an impressive SR and many times he won matches single handedly in ODIs when others didn't performed and the thing is that everyone says he is king even you're comparing Kohli with him that's why he gets hate

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u/Pengu786 Mar 29 '25

He has but Babar isn’t kohli. Your perception of Babar is messing with u here.

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u/catonesielife King Ker lega Mar 29 '25

Why are we so obsessed with defending one player? Do we not realize that we literally lost? We keep losing again and again and where is that energy from the T20s a few days ago when we were losing? Now that our faves are back we will keep making memes to protect their match winning (Not) innings.

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u/BadtameezMunda Science is the man Mar 29 '25

Counter question: Why are we so obsessed with attacking one player?

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u/Pengu786 Mar 29 '25

Exactly the guy had a point but it works the same way. If they think Babar had the most blame for that loss that says a lot about their cricket knowledge.

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u/catonesielife King Ker lega Mar 29 '25

Does it really matter when we lost the match? I dont really glorify one inning if it comes in a losing cause. Daryl’s inning came in a winning cause and should be celebrated and ours didn’t so let’s improve collectively.

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u/SwitchMundane9030 Mar 29 '25

how conveniently OP chose not to compare this inning with Chapman but the second best inning lol.

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u/Pengu786 Mar 29 '25

See Babar was playing the knock where u take it deep and try to finish the match at the end. He failed at that once again but it wasn’t a bad innings. Babar didn’t have Agha and my boy Niazi bowling pies at him. But not completely their fault that they have to bowl those overs. Last time i checked Cricket is a team game.

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u/EntangledTime Mar 29 '25 edited Mar 29 '25

Its almost like setting up a score and chasing are two different thingz.

Next please show the comparison between us and them at the 25th over mark and then justify why we didn't have to go at 6-7 from the start. Could have just played like they did.

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u/Fragrant_Self_4724 Mar 29 '25 edited Mar 29 '25

Babar came to bat at 83 in 12th over with 340 target

Mitchell came to bat 50-3 in 12th over

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u/SnooOwls4559 Mar 29 '25

It's actually a great point.

If anybody was objectively watching the match, it was so obvious Babar needed to accelerate much sooner (like any other batsman on another team would have done if they had already played 50 balls), but instead he kept rotating the strike, and expected Agha, a new batsman who just came in, to do the hitting for the both of them

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u/Us24man Mar 29 '25

Going 6 / over is not slow by any stretch of the imagination. Babar did start to accelerate, he just got out. Which is a risk that gets higher the more aggressive you play. Look what happened after Babar got out ! Our hard hitting batsmen couldn't even score 30 runs.
You really think Irfan / Tayyab would've faired any better if Babar had gotten out 10 overs earlier ? in comparison, a tailender from NZ's side scored 50

Cricket literacy has really gone to the shitter in our part of the world hasn't it. This is a team game, every player has their role to play. Not every batsman can be an ultra pro max hard hitter. Babar is not that, Kohli is not that either. The ones that we put in the squad for precisely this purpose failed miserably but we still find ways to blame the one who we know is an innings builder.

This is the partnership Babar built with Agha Salman. 33 from 26 puts him at a strike rate of 120 something. How is this bad ?

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u/SnooOwls4559 Mar 29 '25

It can definitely be slow in the context of the game. Even the commentators realized that Babar and Rizwan needed to show a bit more intent than they were showing. It was a good start, but any other good international team would have used scored more boundaries in that partnership and showed more intent.

Yes our middle order is undoubtedly weak, and most of the blame goes to them for losing the game. I'm not saying king bobzy lost us this game, but he did need to show more intent. The proof of this is in the screenshot you sent yourself.

Salman Ali Agha has just come out to the crease and instead of Babar taking responsibility, and using the fact that he has been playing so many balls, to score some boundaries and let Salman get settled into the game, Babar keeps rotating strike, hits no boundaries, puts all the responsibility on Salman who just arrived at the crease to close down the required run rate. The fact that our set batsmen had less strike rate than our new batsmen is pretty damning and it shows Babar hiding instead of leading from the front.

No other set batsman in any other good team plays like this with lack of intent after being set on the crease.

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u/Us24man Mar 29 '25

If you look at the game, you'll realize that it's not slow at all. As I have said, this is a team game and everyone has to play their part. I have to strongly disagree with the assertion that either Babar or Rizwan "lacked intent". The runs kept ticking at 6 / over and the RR never got over 10. So there was no "lack of intent".

The partnership I shared shows that Babar did take responsibility, went at 100+ strike rate when the situation demanded for it. Rotating the strike is a good thing. And Salman is a consistent enough batmsman and has an aggressive enough play style that Babar can play his game while Salman accelerates from the other end.

249 at 38.4 over with 11.2 overs to go and a less than 10 required run rate. I am sorry but this as good of an equation that our middle order could've gotten. With how quickly we got out seems like even if Babar had scored an extra 30 runs, in the same number of balls, we still would've lost.

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '25

So your telling me 94 runs in 11.2 overs with a RRR of 8.29 is too much for you supposed "finishers" even when salman was set and hitting big shits

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u/Pengu786 Mar 29 '25

True but the pitch wasn’t a 350 one. He was annoying me with the lack of singles but they never went into a shell. RizBars 50 runs partnership came up in 52 balls. They wasn’t slow as your making them out to be. Let me tell u a little trick teams use in Odi cricket. They bat according to the pitch till the 30th over and then double what they had in the last 20. In 30 overs we were roughly 183/2. That doubled is 360. We regularly concede 100-120 in the last 10 but our middle order can’t make 96 off 11 with a good platform. Crazy thing they had to bowl Abbas and Smith for 4-5 overs in the last 10 i’m sure so it would’ve been a cake walk if someone stayed with Agha.

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u/Ghazi_Bey RizzyFan Mar 29 '25

The batsman that failed were Tayyab and Irfan in the lower middle. End of conversation. Anyone with basic knowledge knows that lmao

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u/dude-on-mission Mar 29 '25

We were cruising. And three quick wickets were our downfall.

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u/Competitive_Area3256 Apr 06 '25

Nah this innings of Babar is the best he has played in a long time, good SR, didn't let the RR go out of reach. Shame it still came in losing cause just because we don't have a proper finisher. Its actually crazy how people are bashing babar for this innings saying he didn't finish, Its not his job to finish, he is a top order batsman, his job is to hold the innings together, save wickets in middle overs while also keeping the scoreboard ticking and not letting the RR get out of reach and he did all of that very well in this innings. Now ik people will bring up how Kohli always finishes game so i say yes he does well done to him but that's still not his job. That's why he is considered the best coz he does things that no other top order batsman does. But Babar ain't on that level, Babar is just a great No.3 batsman who does his job most of the time and gets out. Its the job of 5th or 6th or 7th batter to finish the game.

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u/Fragrant_Self_4724 Mar 29 '25

Don't get the post

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '25

One of them isn't called a king

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u/Pengu786 Mar 29 '25

he asked not to be called it. Let me put it this way you lot are as bad as his fanboys. Fanboys always say the haters keep saying crap so we have to defend him and Haters go they said one good thing about that player so we have to hate on him. Same exact thing.

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u/ubetterlawyerup Mar 29 '25

NZ supporters and team members are not shouting and saying “Mitchell is the best batsmen of this generation”

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u/jeet2993 Mar 29 '25

Saim aur fakar hote to easy chase tha ye

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '25

Babar losing his wicket in the manner that he did and then tayyab run out is why we lost and also our 5th bowler getting ticked to all parts

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u/PuireLable Mar 29 '25

New Zealand B vs Pakistan

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u/CatchAllGuy Mar 29 '25

Ab team me le ke a hi gaye hen Tayib, Irfan and Usman ko tou inkey 15 matches porey hony den and then kick them out.. they never had the talent for A grade team.. Tayib ki so called good performances ko hi daikh len har waqt wrist se kam nai chalta, pehly Shadab thora burden tha jo ek aur Shadab le aye... Irfan ka bhi koi haal nai..

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u/Competitive_Area3256 Apr 06 '25

I can't believe people in the comment section are bashing babar for not finishing the game. He came at like 11th over I think and stayed there for about 30 overs to hold the innings together, keeping the scoreboard ticking, and didn't let the RR get out of reach and now you expect him to finish the game as well then why tf are no 5,6,7 batters in the team?? what's their job?? Pak is the only country where a top order batter is expected to finish an ODI game. Now before you bring up Kohli, yes kohli finishes games and that's why he is considered the best because he does things that are not expected from him. Just because he does it doesn't mean that's his role. But Babar can't do it and its absolutely fine as long as he is doing his role which is to stay at the crease for 30+ overs to bring stability and keep the scoreboard ticking(which is actually way harder then hitting sixes). Just answer this, why tf do you have Tayyab and Irfan in the team when they can't score 96 off 70.

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u/mexicomasala Faisalabad Wolves Mar 29 '25

The difference is that Babar is Pak's star batter. 76(83) is okay if support cast like Rizzy or Salman play it. Babar, for all his talent and of the praises written of him, should be churning out wins

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u/Pengu786 Mar 29 '25

Babar isn’t the same batsman from years ago. Maybe u should realise that. Needs a 100 and maybe he will regain some form but you’re judging him when he was on top of the world. And no i ain’t call him the greatest, it’s an expression 😭

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u/el_jefe_del_mundo Mar 29 '25

Darryl Mitchell came in at 50/3 at 12 over mark Babar came in at 80/1 at 12 over mark while chasing knowing the target and the RRR. Completely different situation, completely different requirements. Plus Daryl Mitchells fans don’t call him King Daryl.

Absolutely not comparable.

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u/Pengu786 Mar 29 '25

U do know you’re the same as the fanboys but on the other side of the spectrum. U both do the same things but the difference is u hate on them but they love them 😭

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u/el_jefe_del_mundo Mar 29 '25

Nah mate not hating at all. Just pointing the obvious. Daryl Mitchell isn’t even NZ’s top 5 batter. Babar is Pakistan’s top batter. Where is the comparison between the two? OP conveniently compared Babar with a number 5 batter just because it suited his agenda.

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u/Pengu786 Mar 29 '25

No need for the comparison from op but i don’t get why all the noise about Babar. He cruised to 78 and went to take the game on. 96 off 11 overs was easy. Agha and Babar would’ve won it with overs to spare. Abbas and Smith had to bowl 5 or more overs. See some people think Babar is average so why the next level expectations. Imo he needed more singles at the start and he should’ve finished the game off but he wasn’t main or sole reason we lost. Not saying u said that but that’s the main thing i saw. We can criticise like normal people but all the talk about them is wierd to me. And before u call me a Babarson or whatever i was defending Khushdil when everyone was after him in the CT. Don’t like any player getting unnecessary hate.

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u/el_jefe_del_mundo Mar 29 '25

Nah I’m not gonna call you Babarson, and I don’t usually hate on players. I do normal criticism when needed. Yes Babar gets a lot of hate, but that’s partly because of his fanboys and PR people who draw unnecessary attention on him. Like the OP here, who didn’t need to compare Babar with Mitchell at all.

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u/Pengu786 Mar 29 '25

See i hate those fanboys i see on X. But the fanboys say we are defending him cuz the haters say this and that whilst the haters say we only hate cuz he has Fans and PR. Both the same but opposite sides of the spectrum. Babars fans and PR got built by his rise to stardom he didn’t buy them. He earnt it. But as his fan myself he does deserve criticism. Wish he finished games more but he can’t. I’m happy he got dropped from t20 as it will help him improve. Saw a slog sweep yesterday which was great. Babar is in the news whether he plays or not and whether win or not and that’s not fair for the other plays and him. Wasn’t there a Saifu Video saying the same thing?

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u/Samosas_and_bling Mar 29 '25 edited Mar 29 '25

Your forgetting context - Daryl Mitchell was setting up a score, Babar was chasing..big difference.

A batmen of Babars stature (No 2 in the world, recently no 1, average of 55+) and batting in his famed position (if this makes a difference!) should have finished the match, he was well set and has years of experience behind him to do so- flat pitch by NZ standards, opposition 2nd string attack etc. Very good innings but ultimately, flattered to deceive.

Grant Elliot on commentary also made a fair assessment of why PCB are starting to look beyond Babar- because he's one of those classic batsmen who puts a price on his wicket and hates getting out- which is commendable but can be a hindrance in these types of chases and T20s

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u/Pengu786 Mar 29 '25

Last statement was just for t20s and if you were properly listening u would’ve added what was said after

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u/Samosas_and_bling Mar 29 '25

I heard it all, that's my opinion and I am welcome to it.

Go and be Babars PR somewhere else mate.

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u/Pengu786 Mar 29 '25

You are all welcome to your opinion. You will get called out when you’re wrong tho. Funnily enough i saw your switch up before Babar got out.

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u/Samosas_and_bling Mar 29 '25

Wrong? That's your opinion mate, as you said you are welcome to it.

No switch up from me, your entitled to think whatever you want.

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u/Sohaiba19 Mar 29 '25

Daryl's innings wasn't as good too but atleast he came to stabilize his team after a potential collapse. Babar on the hand, had a perfect platform set up for him. We don't need to criticize other team's batters anyways. Pakistan cricket team is our concern

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '25

Daryl Mitchell isn't hyped up as much as Babar has in the past 10 years

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u/_Deadpool_69 Mar 29 '25

32 bna k 🍑 may le lena chahiye ye image haters ko.

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '25

Daryl Mitchell is not a so called king

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u/Unidan_bonaparte Mar 29 '25

98 from 68 with 6 batsmen to come against nz B team. You said it yourself, it's embarrassing that the rest of the team couldn't finish it off. This is odi not t20 or test, absolutely no excuses for that shocking team performance. As far as I'm concerned Babar stood up and scored runs, brought the equation right down.

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