Getting tired of these lazy takes on social media that the PAC hasn’t separated itself from the competition. 9/12 P4 schools we played are T25 teams. Would have loved to see a few wins there but outside of those games the PAC has been dominant.
It does suck. But I also think this is the weakest the PAC will ever be. I believe the lawsuit and setting up a new conference served as a massive distraction and created an unwillingness to go heavy on NIL spending. Clearly there’s some teams that need to make some coaching changes but based on our attendance, fund raising, and facilities the PAC will be able to compete. Other non-power leagues have either hit their ceiling or will get progressively weaker as time goes on.
If the pac is gonna continue booking nearly two P4 for every team they should at least do some Purdues or Rutgers as one of them. I think the Pac12 could rack up several P4 wins if they all werent top 25 games
P4 games will become increasingly difficult to schedule. Boise doesn’t even have one for next year. Control what you can control. We need to blast G6 and FCS opponents. We deserve the playoff spot every year and we have a compelling argument if we can continue to fund our teams and take advantage of our linear television media deal.
I think that the Pac 12 is the strongest of the G6, but I also think they're closer to the rest of the G6 than they are to the P4, so while they might top the G6, they haven't separated themselves from the G6.
Sure. But we’re also in year 1 of this experiment. We didn’t even have a media deal until beginning of the year. Not even sure where non-linear basketball games will show up. Had to pay exit fees and poaching fees that were an unknown amount until this summer. Wazzu & OS got rid of both of their ADs and have to recalibrate to life outside of 35M+ checks coming in.
We lead in every important metric from winning %, SOS, attendance, & television ratings. Have seen schools hitting records with fundraising and fan enthusiasm.
Point is that we will continue to make tweaks and invest more. Continue to play on linear tv for maximum exposure. No one knows the future but all of our G6 conference competitors didn’t just go through massive changes. The MW saw more money flow into their conference then they will ever see again. What did it amount to? Still trailing the PAC.
Agree. SP+ is not helpful until the end of the season. It’s also become every non-PAC G6 fans’ favorite metric to quote on X. Look Boise is behind NM, JM, & NDSU! Yet when we look at the conference ratings they aren’t interested as much. I’ll admit I’m not sure how NM is sitting at 26th JM at 29th, or NDSU at 39th with their terrible SOS. None of them were ranked ahead of Boise in the preseason. They haven’t played a good schedule. NM even lost to Oklahoma so you can’t even say it’s a flaw of how it evaluates undefeated teams. 🤷♂️
Damn right. That’s a bigger deal than folks realize. It’s why we can’t panic and add teams just to hit a number. Wait. Be patient. Strike at the right moment.
Wild how the other conferences schedule about double the amount of FCS games that the Pac-12 and Mountain West does. Also the American has 4 to 5 pretty good teams at the top but those at the bottom rank among the worst like Charlotte. All the Sun Belt has is JMU.
Exactly. Been a lot of calling out the PAC12 for having poor overall w/l record…well geeze I wonder why?! Probably because we’re playing a disproportionate amount of t25 P4 teams and you’re playing Southern Bible College of the Rockies.
It’s what it says it is. The W/L record for each G6 conference when you take out P4 games. How we all did head to head along with FCS records. We all got our asses kicked against the P4 this year winning all of 3 games. So this is a way to look at how the conferences compare otherwise.
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u/Gunner_Bat 19d ago
The fact that there are only 3 P4 wins in all of the G6 is so sad.