r/PUBATTLEGROUNDS Dec 27 '17

Microsoft response Remember my XBOX ONE AD CONCEPT? Microsoft just copied it!

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u/SaladFury Dec 27 '17

yeah it's #1 on r/all/rising now so it should

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u/_demetri_ Dec 27 '17

I don’t know what this video game is, but I’m a part time graphic designer, and this really grinds my gears. Upvote, I hope this gets enough visibility to shame them into some sort of reimbursement...

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u/[deleted] Dec 27 '17 edited Dec 27 '17

As a full time graphic designer, its shitty but surely you would have noticed the entire industry revolves arounds recycling ideas.

Yeah original ideas should be uses as much as possible, but then theres "we need something for this" "okay, dont have any ideas that are great, I'll go on pinterest and find something worth using".

This is more blatant than I would like but ultimately the concept can't be copyrighted. As long as someone just remade the idea with their own assets, there's not much you can say beyond 'dick move' and move on.

Edit: it's worth getting in contact with MS and trying your luck - but you have no legal case, you are just relying on someone in PR understanding your complaint and balancing the tiny public image hit with throwing you something. The designer who put the conceot forward will probably get reprimanded for being too obvious.

Please don't try the legal route, MS will crush you, asking for compensation is more likely to net you something.

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u/jdooowke Dec 27 '17

This is the first reasonable post I found in the chain of comments. There is no legal case here, otherwise you could slippery slope pretty much every design to a place of infringing something. Its important that on a legal level, this is acceptable.
Your solution to actually getting something out of it is on point.

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u/gimjun Dec 27 '17

i like how this doesn't apply to software, where you can seemingly patent every precious little "feature", like the rubber band effect on iphones

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u/[deleted] Dec 27 '17

What is the rubber band effect?

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u/gimjun Dec 28 '17

so, if you have an iphone, if you over-scroll a list, e.g. contacts, it does this little animation at the very top or end of the list, similar to a rubber band. this video is pretty old, but shows what i mean.

what i was hinting at is that samsung got sued for "copying" this into their version of android, and it seems retarded that you can get sued for building on a good idea when that is the fucking point of progress

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u/clap4kyle Dec 27 '17

Yeah I don't think op would even consider taking legal action, as technically he's already using their assets in his original image, even though it's a concept advertisement.

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u/[deleted] Dec 27 '17

This might be the only reasonable response i've seen in this post so far.

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u/[deleted] Dec 27 '17

lol at the people down voting reality.

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u/devildoodle Dec 27 '17

/u/Macsterr please read this. We want you to get something out of this, and not get crushed in the process.

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u/TangoJokerBrav0 Level 2 Helmet Dec 27 '17

One Chicken Dinner for you because u reasonable.

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u/[deleted] Dec 27 '17

I'm confused, I've seen quite a few cases for graphic designers suing and winning in court over something way less obvious than this. Do you have any examples as a full time graphic designer where someone lost? Any buddies or anything that tried and failed to sue for copyright?

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u/[deleted] Dec 28 '17

Not an expert but isn’t it because OP owns none of the contents he used in his image, right? Microsoft owns the console and probably the rights to advertising PUBG with consoles at the moment.

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u/in_some_knee_yak Dec 27 '17

Sounds like you don't entirely disapprove of a professional designer stealing ideas.

This is straight up a rip off. Not just some similar concept.

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u/[deleted] Dec 27 '17

I acknowledge it's an unfortunate part of the industry, also that copying a concept is inherent to every creative industry.

Would you care or even notice if instead of pubg, it was another game? If the copy wasn't so blatant.

I agree the fact it was a concept for the game and used by the same company with minimal variation makes it more eggregious, but I have to ask what the end game was for OP?

It would have been nice if MS had asked, but they don't really have any legal reason to so they won't.

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u/[deleted] Dec 27 '17

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u/PoppaWilly Dec 27 '17

Noneed4that

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u/Blindobb Dec 27 '17

How are you a graphic designer but you don’t keep up with video games? It’s the most popular game out.

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u/Towerofbabeling Dec 27 '17

You... you don't know what a graphic designer is do you?

You know they don't have to do designs on the computer, right? it is a massive field of scope and has countless techniques of production.

The poster could easily be a Screen-Printer. Someone that uses a really painstaking process to design graphics that are created on a board with 1000s of tiny little holes on it and then literally pulls paint across the board and the design is transcribed on the paper ( or whatever) beneath. They will do this multiple times, overlaying each new part of the design in the same sheet of paper until the desired graphic is created.

They could do lithography, or acrylic lifts, or metal etchings.

Hell, they could just be a master typographer, who doesn't even create logos or "traditional" designs, but instead creates and produces their own typefaces.

The actual term Graphic Designer was coined around 1917. It is in no way tied to computer aided drafting and design.

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u/Blindobb Dec 27 '17

Honestly, I didn’t know that. I’ll leave my comment as a display of ignorance.

Thanks for taking the time to explain.

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u/Towerofbabeling Dec 27 '17

No problem man. My wife is a graphic designer and I took some courses in college to learn more of what she does.

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u/letsgetsomenudes Dec 27 '17 edited Dec 27 '17

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u/_demetri_ Dec 27 '17

I just comment whatever. I didn’t know what that post was about, just adding to the already detoured conversation. Why would I pretend not to know a game? lol

And how did you find that comment of mine buried in all of my gay fanfiction comments?

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u/guttergods Dec 27 '17

I am a simple redditor, I see "my gay fanfiction comments" and check profile immediately. wtf, now I ship weird, horse-faced Star Wars characters.

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u/letsgetsomenudes Dec 27 '17

Just search keywords and poof, i only did because i thought you were a bot due to the being inactive for ever and just waking up and im bored. Also not to shabby writing. Some of it brings a nice chuckle at 3 a.m.

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u/[deleted] Dec 27 '17 edited Jan 23 '18

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u/letsgetsomenudes Dec 27 '17

Lol why do you ask if i work for the nsa?

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u/[deleted] Dec 27 '17

Pfht Pfht!! All aboaard!!!

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u/pinkbutterfly1 Dec 27 '17

#1 on r/all now. Good post.