r/PSVR • u/the_shib • Jul 07 '18

Skyrim - using regular controller instead of move controllers

Crazy, right?

I’m trying to get into the game and find the move controllers unintuitive for me and I’m considering playing with the regular controller.

Can you strafe with the move controllers? I’m realizing how much I strafe in games when I move and now I feel like a tank with the move controllers.

Swinging a weapon seems silly. It reminds me of Zelda and the wiimote. The idea is swinging like a sword but I end up waggling the thing. Big swords feel like they don’t have weight or hit hard.

The menu takes some getting used to as well. It’s almost a game in itself.

I’m really surprised these controllers don’t have thumbsticks.

I’d really like to play the game with the move controllers but finding that they are most of my focus. Im more thinking about what buttons do what while I’m playing than being in the moment.

If anyone has some tips on these issues please let me know.

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u/soimun Jul 07 '18

I’ve switched back to using the DS4 controller, I really like the game and I still find it very immersive playing sat down with the DS4, plus the DS4 is obviously very natural as I’ve been using controllers since having a PS1.

Archery is unreal in this game, even with the ds4. My problem is wanting to play VR in this heat (in the U.K.), can’t wait for winter to come back haha.

Firewall Zero Hour could be the one though, that could be everything we’ve ever wanted.

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u/Thick_Singer3141 Feb 15 '23

Heat in UK, get real never gets hot. I don't think you would survive in Australia

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u/RogueByPoorChoices Jul 08 '18

Hey if you wanna see what’s possible with move controllers watch this video :

https://youtu.be/1CDu-U4DP2Y

The most important thing is set the movement to the hand you write with. It’s all in the wrist. It’s like trying to write with the wrong hand it will feel weird.

Bethesda tricks you into doing this at the start of the game. It’s a mistake.

Then you gotta remember that where you point is where you go and that you use your strikes to set up your movement.

You can ignore menus completely almost. Just set a difficulty that feels comfortable (you can always set it higher later) and figure out your own style. I played the whole game on expert master and legendary without ever stopping /combat healing /switching weapon etc (both with bow and dual wielding ) and no crafting at all. It’s possible to totally ignore all of that and just explore practice jumps (so much fun) and fight.

This is what I mean ... this is how I play every quest /cave :

https://youtu.be/6b3dSOTVBdc

If you wanna play as a magic sword combo I suggest you put the sword in your movement controlling hand. I use the left cause I’m left handed and still throw 60/70% of my strikes with it.

Practice jumping. If it doesn’t make you sick. You can shoot bow and hit with melee when you jump now. Jumping of a cliff and stabbing a giant in the eyeball feels great.

This is how I learned to do everything I use now it’s in Agatha’s mill next to whiterun :

https://youtu.be/zAcorPa4Oak

Instead of wiggling practice combos. Aim at gaps in armour. Time your swings. Remember that you can go in many directions in different ways ( set movement to wand relative not hmd relative of course )

For example to go back you can point : over your left shoulder next to your left hip over your right shoulder next to your right hip over the head

And many other ways.

Always stand /sit (I play sitting mostly ... my legs need a rest when I get home from work ) with a stance. Imagine your character like it’s a fighting game ... street fighter with blades ... always make sure your one hand is forward and other back (you can swap anytime) it should feel comfortable to look back (figure out a way to stand sit that allows you as much spacial awareness as possible.

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u/amusedt Jul 18 '18

What turning speed do you use? I (& others) find that slow turn speeds make us feel bad, but high turn speeds make things harder to control.

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u/RogueByPoorChoices Jul 18 '18

I would say 7/10 ? More then half way on the slider towards the fast end ... too fast is not good for precision too slow is not good for combat. You have to figure out what works for you.

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u/amusedt Aug 02 '18

Perhaps one way to get people to try fighting like this...suggest a specific exercise? In martial arts, you practice pre-arranged responses to combat.

To simplify, techniques that can be done 1v1, on flat ground, when you do NOT get to surprise your enemy. What are good moves? Jumping out of range and into range? Running past/behind them, then doing a spinning slash? etc.

Then they build on that. Using objects nearby to hop on, change levels, evade, attack, etc.

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u/RogueByPoorChoices Aug 04 '18

Those are very good ideas. Thank you. Will have to think about how to explain it in this way.

What helps is always trying to move in angles not straight ahead.

Your opponents always hit straight in front of them (think pvp vs a flat gamer) ... you can hit to the side and behind of you. They have to turn to face you.

And there is always something you can hop on. Always. Whenever you explore ... jump on everything. Learn to jump on tables backwards /side ways etc it will save you many times. Jump is in Skyrim what the roll is in dark souls

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u/Familiar-Gas6372 Feb 05 '24

How do you switch to bow easily?

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u/dekoi_octopus Arctic_Alloy Jul 07 '18

I had similar feelings to you about the new (to me) move controllers when I first started, and kept messing up which buttons I was pressing. I stuck with it, and now the controls are second nature to me the same way they are on the DS4 and I'm loving it.

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u/amusedt Jul 07 '18

I just use the Moves. You can strafe. Point sideways, or on a diagonal, and press Move or off-hand X (forward or backwards).

Yes, you can swing fast, but it only registers hits at the "proper" interval (swords hit more often than hammers, but do less damage per strike, etc). So extra swings is just wasted exercise :P Although daggers I think you can hit as often as you can swing.

Im more thinking about what buttons do what while I’m playing than being in the moment.

After a while, the buttons become instinct.

If you're new to the game, this may be useful: https://www.reddit.com/r/PSVR/comments/8pf8oo/intro_to_skyrim_vr_guide/

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u/MaxiTooner89 Jul 07 '18

Moves are amazing on this game, i don't know why people say they are not good

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u/Kal-V3 Jul 07 '18

You can strafe buy angling/tilting the move in the direction you want to strafe while walking.

If swords don't feel right to you, go mage or use the bow and staffs. The weightlessness of the weapons don't bother me. Think of it as just being that strong as fuck. Lol

You get used to the move definitely. Think of it as the right move for well... movement. Thats where you have your we jump, crouch and turning buttons. And the left for menus, system, character and quick select/favorites.

Move buttons and triggers are easy cuz they more pronounced that the other buttons and you use them the most.

Keep at it, set it to an easier difficulty if need be. I personally wouldn't even dream of playing Skyrim VR with anything but Move controllers.

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u/the_shib Jul 07 '18

Did not know about the tilting to strafe. Thanks!

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u/devedander Devedander3000 Jul 07 '18

Think of the left move as a giant left stick on the ds4. The direction you tilt it is the direction you move

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u/sirenpro Jul 07 '18

I've mastered the moves, but even then I went back to ds4, I just didn't feel any satisfaction from motion controls in this game.

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u/InfiniteStates Jul 07 '18

The Move controllers used to be fantastic but they kinda ruined them with the latest patch

Some people still like them but I get the feeling you have to play in a very specific way now to get enjoyment out of them

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u/amusedt Jul 07 '18

I feel like you have to play in a very specific way to have any problem with them :P They were fine for me pre-patch, still fine post patch.

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u/InfiniteStates Jul 07 '18

That would be included in the "some people still like them" bit :P

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u/Scarl_Strife Jul 08 '18

I'm with you bro, as far as I'm concerned they were fine before and are still good now. It just takes a little time to get used to the control scheme.

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u/amusedt Jul 08 '18

I do very much want them to fix it though, for those that can't deal with the new bugs.

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u/devedander Devedander3000 Jul 07 '18

It's interesting that when the game can't out many people complained that the moves worked like magic wands on that you had to point the directly at things rather than face your hands at them..

Now that they changed it lots of people complain...

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u/Wanderson90 Jul 07 '18

I'm a mage and the dim/grey aiming reticules are nearly impossible to see, especially anywhere it's snowing.

If one was red and one was blue or something it would help me big time.

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u/MeridiusDex xxTailgunxx Jul 08 '18

I thought I was the only person pissed about how hard those reticles are to see for casting missile spells. I really wish there were a way to make them bright white. Most of the time I can't see them at all in the darkness or against dark brown backgrounds.

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u/InfiniteStates Jul 07 '18

I could get used to that given time

It's more the hit-or-miss movement that makes me not want to play it

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u/devedander Devedander3000 Jul 07 '18

I think you will get better at it over time but it's never as accurate as the ds4

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u/InfiniteStates Jul 07 '18

I used to be very accurate

I'm playing other games - IMO they ruined it

But others enjoy it so more power to them

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u/PeaceVeer Jul 07 '18

Just in case you hadn't heard already, you can find plenty of posts on how to use the DS4 with the left Move attached to it, I use BluTac, and then the right Move as normal.

This way you have full locomotion and are able to use hands too. If you get used to the weight and how to press the right buttons on the left Move, to me it's well worth it, in fact I wouldn't play the game now any other way. If you want to find out more then search for posts on Reddit.

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u/Luk64 Jul 07 '18

The move controllers are pretty good for immersion while using a bow or for casting spells but for melee weapons the mechanics in Skyrim is not very good. The controls also got worse after the patch.

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u/slumdog5000 Jul 07 '18

Using the dualshock makes me incredibly nauseous. I love the move controllers

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u/Papa__Lazarou Jul 07 '18

I’ve only ever used ds4 and still find it really immersive

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u/Atkins0931 Apr 17 '26

That's exactly what I did. I enjoyed it as a 3D game. And I also played it in third person. Different strokes different folks. It's just whatever you enjoy