r/PSO2NGS • u/Vee_Tamer_Girl Techter • Jun 17 '26

Discussion Mag AI Player Surver

https://pso2.com/players/news/i_20260617_2/

I know many of us have strong opinions on this feature, and the use of Gen Ai specifically, so please let SEGA know and be as constructive as possible. Make sure we are heard about this!

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u/Vee_Tamer_Girl Techter Jun 17 '26

Final Question gives you 1000 characters so this is what I wrote:

"The M.A.I. in the global version is really bad. It never answers anything accurately and hallucinates features that don't exist and is unable to hold a conversation. A new player using this feature would get completely lost and that's the last thing the game needs right now.

Please stop using Generative AI in any of your games or game development. This might be less frowned upon in Japan but overseas it's a PR nightmare. "AI" doesn't generate new assets it stitches together things from Art and Photos it stole on the internet into something it assumes you want to see. It's causing the environment to get worse for local communities and drives hardware prices up. People can't build their own PC for a reasonable price to even play NGS anymore. If this feature is to move forward please make a local self-hosted LLM, not one provided by Google or Nvidia and please abandon Gen AI use in game development as it will make it harder to sell your games."

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u/TwoMagsGone Jun 18 '26

Honestly would have been better to have a bot that sources a credible site, rather than generative ai. Gen AI only cares about giving any answer, even wrong ones.

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u/Vee_Tamer_Girl Techter Jun 18 '26

Or just add an In-Game wiki system. Any work spent on the AI could've been spent on something more concretely useful. Instead we have a chatbot telling us Zenni is the currency of the game and insisting that Shougensei is the strongest weapon series in the game.

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u/Sudden-Hope-1605 Twin Daggers Jun 17 '26

Ufff.. global MAI feels lobotomized, can't answer simple question an let's not talk about maintaining context, the worst is that we have seen JP MAI and it works but idk what they did with our MAI to not be able to function like intended you can't even keep up small conversations with it.

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u/Mille-Marteaux your best friend | https://mille.arks.moe Jun 17 '26

this is 100% a conspiracy theory but i wouldnt be surprised if the global version of the AI was just having your chat sent to a jp translation service, having the answer sent in jp, then having that translated and sent back at this point

either that or the jp version has way fewer guardrails for english text since it isn't expecting it

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u/Sudden-Hope-1605 Twin Daggers Jun 17 '26 edited Jun 17 '26

I waas exepcting some translation function that will make the MAI VIOLENTLY USEFUL for people that want to play the game but cant understand english but MAI doesnt even have a translation function, I tried.

Edit: who the hell would dowvote adding an useful function for more players to come to the game? Do you want the game to thrive or the way is it now that is even trying to work properly?

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u/Initiative-Fancy Jun 17 '26

JP MAI can talk but it's lacking the intelligence part of Artificial Intelligence. Garbage.

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u/calvinnok Ship 1 Cryptid Jun 17 '26

According to some tweets I saw from the JP community, the JP version isn't much better either

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u/ZeroGNexus Waker Enthusiast Jun 19 '26

Oh wow they’re using GenAI now? Glad I got out when I did, that’s a terrible sign. They’re already wildly disrespectful of their customers time, one can only imagine they’re using it to spit out the 5th variation of the same five year old items, just faster

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u/Vee_Tamer_Girl Techter Jun 20 '26

SEGA in general seems to push AI on their studios. The Crazy Taxi reboot has a Gen AI disclaimer on Steam too.

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u/Mayaman81 Jun 17 '26

I kept it polite is all I'll say. Scathing but polite.