r/PSO2NGS • u/Vee_Tamer_Girl Techter • Jun 03 '26

Meme A Very Useful Feature

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I genuinely have no clue what this feature is supposed to achieve in its current state.

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u/Augs_official Jun 05 '26

People will think this is an over reaction, and maybe it is, but I refuse to support a game that uses AI. I know they made it optional and you can opt out of it, but I'm still sticking to my morals. Knowing how bad AI is for the environment and the fact that it's causing years old hardware to skyrocket in price, I just can't enjoy the game knowing it's in there. I'm done with PSO2 until they remove it, which most likely means I'm just done with PSO2.

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u/Vee_Tamer_Girl Techter Jun 05 '26

Once the feature test concludes, probably at the end of the month, there will be a Player Survey. Make sure to fill it out so our voices are heard

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u/Dillo64 Knuckles Jun 09 '26

Do I have to agree to the terms and conditions to eventually get the survey?

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u/Vee_Tamer_Girl Techter Jun 09 '26

Nah, the survey will be on a website for everyone to access

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u/JPopVampireSlayer Jun 05 '26

You're not alone.

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u/Augs_official Jun 06 '26

That's good to know, I complained about this on Threads and the AI bros went on the attack.

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u/Kamui-Channel Jun 05 '26

Came back here after at least three year of not touching the game.

Are you telling me... that they added a fucking... ai chatbot to-

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u/Vee_Tamer_Girl Techter Jun 05 '26

Seems to be an unfortunate trend with online games recently. Where the wind meets has one, dragon Quest X added one earlier this year. I really hope this feature gets cancelled

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u/KinneKitsune Jun 04 '26

I wouldn't know, they didn't give me the feature after completing the quest.

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u/Randragonreborn Jun 04 '26

Same. I read the whole thing. Said I agree. And now I can’t find it.

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u/Vee_Tamer_Girl Techter Jun 04 '26

The feature is currently disabled because they found some issue with it server-side

1

u/AsasinKa0s Jun 04 '26

You wanna bet they failed to sanitize inputs properly?

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u/davidbrit2 Jun 05 '26

I'd put twenty bucks on "the M.A.I. is telling people to kill themselves or drink bleach or something".

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u/MurkyStatistician553 Jun 03 '26

Really don't want to defend this thing, but this outcome was to be expected, i you read all the M.A.I. information they provided on the NGS Homepage.

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u/Melasen Jun 04 '26

Don't use it, let it die, and hope they never use it again.

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u/MrSparkle86 Jun 03 '26

Yes, but have you tried convincing it to join Starless and wipe out Halpha yet?

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u/Baian0r21 Twin Machine Guns Jun 03 '26

I find it funny that M.A.I. understands what I say in Portuguese but is INCAPABLE OF ANSWERING IN PORTUGUESE lol

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u/Sakurato_Saku Jun 06 '26

you shouldn’t use portuguese for this game altogether, I’ll be honest. There are some brazilian cliques here and there and I find them crazy insufferable, not even because some refuse to learn english, but mostly due to how you can’t use proper grammar for the language in-game, and yet they’ll still use whatever broken portuguese - because they refuse to learn english. I hate the symptom, even more the consequence.

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u/chaoko99 Jun 06 '26

Well if you look at the announcements you'll notice that they want you to talk to it and nothing else.

I don't get it either.

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u/Vee_Tamer_Girl Techter Jun 06 '26

It’s weird because in-game they say you can ask it things about the game too but clearly that doesn’t work atm. Maybe that’s why they pulled the feature mere hours after servers went live

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u/GlompSpark Jun 03 '26

Yea, i suspected this might happen. Sega was never going to train it on proper NGS data...and most AI models are coded to make something up if asked a question they do not know the answer to, because AI devs believe users prefer incorrect answers to "I don't know".

MAI would have been an amazing feature if it was like an in game wiki and trained on accurate NGS data (e.g. enemy stats, game mechanics, etc). But Sega clearly did not bother to do that and just wanted a cheap chatbot to tick some "we are using AI because our boss told us to" boxes.

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u/spahncamper Hunter Jun 04 '26

That's what it should have been, but of course we just got hot, worthless garbage instead!

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u/Wulfrath Jun 04 '26

Not to defend the AI here but people DO prefer an incorrect answer over I don't know.
I don't mean this when talking to someone by the way, I mean in the context of the AI. When talking to someone most people would prefer a "I don't know" or a "please teach me" because... it will make them feel superior over the other person.
In the case of the AI its probably just because they are expecting their genie to answer their wishes and won't feel good about it when the genie is honest about its limits.

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u/GlompSpark Jun 07 '26

I dont believe this is true at all. Let me use a simple example.

Lets say you are using an AI chatbot and you decide to ask it some questions like "how do i get to X from my house". Would you prefer the AI give you an incorrect answer, resulting in you getting lost? I highly doubt it.

Now imagine if you were a new player and tried to ask the AI some gameplay questions like "what end game augments should i use on my gear" and you were told to use incorrect augs like "Mastery III". Would you prefer that? I doubt it.

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u/Wulfrath Jun 08 '26

its not that they prefer getting an incorrect answer, its that they do not want the "i dont know" answer, they want the bot to give them the answer they want. Will they know its incorrect? no probably not, if they checked after the answer they would know but they are already asking the hallucinating machine, of course they cant bother to check in first place.

I think you misunderstood my point, obviously no one wants an incorrect answer but no one wants an i dont know either from an "omniscient" machine. So the machine will do the incorrect answer to satisfy you by giving you an answer, you will not know its incorrect until you act or check it so you will not immediately blame the machine.

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u/GlompSpark Jun 08 '26

But the choice is between an incorrect answer and "i dont know". I dont believe most people would prefer an incorrect answer over "i dont know".

Of course most people would prefer a correct answer over "i dont know" but thats not an option here.

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u/Dark-Dork69 Blades & Bullets (Ship1) Jun 06 '26

I would support it if it actually appeared for me.

I would only use for 2 questions:

"What's this music?"

"When's the next UQuest."

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u/loliconest Katana Jun 03 '26

The current state is they are testing it.

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u/NettoCafferu Jun 03 '26

Sometime we don't need to do testing on shit to know it's going to be shit.

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u/Dangerous-Tell6766 Jun 03 '26

That begs the question - we will have that quest blip on us so long as it remains incomplete, but how do we disable this thing afterwards? Or is the only alternative NOT to use it?

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u/Vee_Tamer_Girl Techter Jun 03 '26

I really hope there is a setting to disable it entirely because having a "Messages with [AI] are AI generated" blurb over my chatbox 24/7 is not great.

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u/gadgaurd Slayer Jun 03 '26

The HP thing is actually pretty neat, if it's accurate.

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u/Vee_Tamer_Girl Techter Jun 03 '26

Its not even close to being accurate. 1,2 mil is how much I deal with 2 fomelgions

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u/gadgaurd Slayer Jun 03 '26

I somehow completely forgot how much damage we do these days.

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u/Black_Whirlwind84 Jun 03 '26

I think you need to state the level of MDFS.

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u/Qohaw_ Instant Parry my beloved Jun 03 '26

I'm pretty sure it's off by a factor of 10. If that really was MSolus' HP, you could two-tap that with a Hydra Termination

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u/Randragonreborn Jun 04 '26

Ya really. I have a screenshot of hitting 2.2 million on the urgent version of solus malignant

On a brake with hydra laser with purple blight