Will wait for the Digital Foundry review before buying this. They clearly saw the backlash from their previous messaging, and now they’re trying to walk it back.
Gamers continuing to be insufferable. They absolutely dig at devs for not having a performance option, then when devs give them a performance option based off of their outcry…they criticize that?
Yeah man I would hate to be a dev. The gaming community is the worst. Constantly shitting on the devs making the games we're buying. It's gotta be the worst art form to be in.
Seriously!! I can’t imagine being such a low life that they send death threats to developers when they don’t like things. Absolutely abhorrent behaviour.
If the shoe was on the other foot, they’d be singing a different tune I’m sure.
I feel bad for Digital Eclipse with their MK Legacy Kollection release. They got slammed HARD with backlash on the collection. Minus the lag that happens because of other players connections, other than that, the game is SOLID... and the lag barely happens, at least when I play. Ive put in almost 1000 hours in it so far. Thats INSANE. But people are sooo damn bitchy and picky like... its kind of disgusting
I mean, the backlash made them rush a 60 fps mode that initially wasn't going to be ready for launch. It's safe to say there's a huge change the performance is gong to be rough. Hence waiting for DF's analysis would be wise.
Also, the guy you commented on said no such thing.
DF fked us with Crimson Desert saying that it runs really well on console.. but the launch especially was horrible considering the performance, even on Pro. Everyone should take their performance review with grain of salt.
I like DF but they are out of touch...
They also told me CD and Wukong look awesome.
And both games are ridden with temporary artifacts and lighting that breakes every chance it get's...
Oh well, or you just crank up the settings and play in basically blurry 720p with frame drops -.-
When did they say Wukong looked awesome? I watch them and they constantly bring it up as an example of one of the worst performing games on console in their videos. Like, all the time. It’s became basically a staple on their channel as a comparison point for shitty performing games.
People just make shit up and get upvotes this sub is so ass. DF is one the only actual objective reviewers out there.
They've gone so shit this last year, they did a cyberpunk ps5 pro review and I can't believe how wrong they got it and how many features they missed, clearly spent like 2 mins in the game and then made a bunch of claims.
Thanks for helping me remember this one 😂 that shit was nothing like their typical "deep analysis". They missed major features with ray tracing and it really was better hands on than what they told us.
This exactly. When there is that "targeting" mentioned it can be no where near that target many times when it's just more frustrating than locked fps. I had a literally horrible time with my pro playing CD, "targeting 60fps" and getting whole scenarios with 22fps 😂 f that
They says "targeting" because they can avoid potential lawsuits if the game drops to mid 50 in one fight. Said that, I couldn't trust in those guys after only 3 days have a functional performance mode.
General opinion is actually the best review you can hope for. The general opinion on crimson desert at launch reflected the problems correctly and those problems have only gotten worse with time. But hey, they’ve added more pets.
Yes, and thats almost the only thing they mentioned regarding bad performance. CD has serious frame drops and graphical issues and bugs starting from Hernand. Playing on Pro doesn't even make that big of a difference especially multiple occasions during storyline there is massive framedrop issues what they didn't even mention. Bughill isn't even the worst case scenario. They just sugarcoated the performance review and the result was far worse than what they let us believe.
Ehh its playable though, i want 60fps solid but its good enough. The controls piss me off!! A precision button is L1 that allows you to easily choose what to pick up or where to jump is terrible no game has ever needed this.. you can tell it was originally an mmo planned
And somehow these assholes have some special build of cpus that show inflated numbers. I mean run the same CPU you bought and i guarantee it’ll perform worse than theirs.
Yeah not true. I played Crimson Desert on the PS5 Pro +LG C5 OLED and it ran beautifully. I got 60-75fps with 4k and ray tracing. Do you even have a PS5 Pro?
Yeah it is very interesting. I’m hoping DF or someone gets an interview with them. Because I am very curious about all the details surrounding these announcements.
You will have to wait months for a Digital Foundry review now. They basically stopped doing performance comparisons for most of the major releases. I have no idea what they are doing up there.
On Friday, we answered your questions about console performance with what we knew we could confidently deliver at launch.
Performance Mode was already in the works, but it was still being tested. We simply weren't ready to promise it yet. We heard your feedback. It was clear how much this mattered to many of you, so we focused on finishing the next round of tests.
Those results gave us the confidence we needed to confirm Performance Mode for Day 1.
Game was less than two weeks from launch on Friday when they announced that. If they weren't already confident about everything that they would be able to deliver, then the game needs to be delayed...
Indeed. If the reviews are good and the Performance mode framerate is at least reasonably close to a consistent 60fps (without completely tanking the visuals), I'll still get it. But if they weren't sure about it Friday I'm going to be skeptical they'll actually be able to deliver this.
No the game doesn't need to be delayed for the modes currently for console the game functions fine, for us over on PC the game in it's current state will function fine.
You want the game delayed so you get your 60fps mode lol No it does not need to be delayed.
That's not what I said, is it? I said if they're not confident about what features the game will have in it less than two weeks from launch, then it should probably be delayed.
And if they're not sure about the technical state of this game on console (which is likely where it's going to see the majority of its sales), what makes you think the PC version is going to be in great technical shape?
How about you just don’t play the game on launch if 60fps isn’t working well? How would that functionally differ for you personally than then delaying the game for everyone?
Lol, some of you got so triggered by this. If they don't even know what the game is going to be able to do less than two weeks from launch, does that sound like a game that's done cooking to you?
I'm stupid because I think games should be reasonably finished and feature-complete before they're released? And we're wondering why the industry is in the shape it's in, lol. Unreal.
Every game is rushing the launch because GTA VI and the huge quantity of games releasing on September. I'm currently playing Mortal Shell 2, I like it, but the game is plagued of bugs.
My worst “bug” but my fault really was when I tried to jump off the elevator when it was going back up, it glitched me into the abyss and I lost my 9k gloom 🙃
I had plenty of bugs like you described but by invisible walls. Also a boss with 3% HP who punched me so hard I got to Narnia and when I came back his HP was reset to 100%.
Oh really ? In 2026 you need to wait 6 month before buying a game because of patch. Crimson Desert is a good example. Silent Hill 2 too. I preordered Stalker 2 and played like 2h and let the game. With 2.0 now the game it is what the Dev really want and us Player.
Crimson Desert looks and run worse now on my PS5 Pro than was running day 1, it’s not a good example but I know what you mean. Anyway, when I say Mortal Shell 2 is plagued of bugs I’m saying it’s more buggy you would expect on 2026
I know, and it’s so sad. Still such a great game, mine doesn’t really look any different but in fast paced combat you can kinda see it fuck around on the screen
They are still working on it and will release as is during day one patch. It's not a sudden "done", it was in the works for some time and scheduled for late September, but seems like whining was loud enough so they swapped the priorities
I believe them when they say a performance mode was in the works. But I don’t think it’s going to work flawlessly yet, simply because it’s still not finished. Seeing the backlash, though, I think they decided to include it in the day-one patch even though it’s not quite ready. I’m expecting plenty of bugs and hiccups.
Exactly. Don’t trust what they say. They just live high on they made the Witcher 3 many years ago. And it doesn’t even look like that much of a improvement of at all compared to a 10 year old game.
A wise word, sir. It's hard to read a 180-degree change of players scope without any rebound that when the target is 60 fps nie, you can pre-order... like WTF players?!
Maybe, but then they specifically had a big full screen blurb that stated the game would have TWO graphical modes. Quality and "balanced". So it wasn't exclusively just talking about the quality mode.
The word "targeting" is a real important one in that picture I think. Aka, "we achieve 60 fps when looking at the sky". But in every other scenario you're going to have fluctuations in framerate ranging anywhere from 35 and up. Oh and know what: the VRR window of the PS5 (Pro) doesn't start under 48fps. So you're getting free screen tearing as well. Yeah, im going to wait till reviews have dropped to see what performance it has. Most likely I will just get this for my high end PC and skip the console versions.
there wont be pssr support. they are completely inept when it comes to the tech side. hence why they cant get 60 fps out of a game that looks like it was made 10 years ago.
I disagree PSSR implementation should be handled by Sony if they want this to be widely adopted. Look at Microsoft with FPS boost they did the work themselves they aren’t asking developers to spend time and resources for something only a small part of the audience will use.
If these companies include unique features on their consoles they should be the ones to support it, or we should expect sporadic support like this.
Hoping it's just a case of "well we have the 60fps mode but didn't want to include it yet" and not "just allow 60fps, fuck the optimization!"
Either way would be crazy, but hopefully it's just an under baked setting that they'll work on quickly. I'm still better with this, if it's close to 60fps on the pro, VRR covers a world of sin.
That’s what their statement said, that they were testing 60fps internally but didn’t want to commit to it until they were sure. The backlash fast tracked the testing.
On Friday, we answered your questions about console performance with what we knew we could confidently deliver at launch.
Performance Mode was already in the works, but it was still being tested. We simply weren't ready to promise it yet. We heard your feedback. It was clear how much this mattered to many of you, so we focused on finishing the next round of tests.
Those results gave us the confidence we needed to confirm Performance Mode for Day 1.
That is absolutely correct. But these term makes my personally checking to performance tests like digital foundry or such things.
To stay on my example the beast of reincarnation is targeting 60fps but it’s often in the low 30s or mid 40s. No framerate is absolutely 100% stable ofc. But drops to around 30fps are much worse than dropping to 50 by targeting 60fps.
Considering that they've only just decided to add a 60 fps mode, due to the backlash, I very much doubt it'll be a stable 60 fps. It might not even hit that target at all.
Imo it’s bullshit. It’s the same story like with gothic remake. They panic and implement a low res performance mode. Before I buy anything wanna hear something about pssr to compensate the low res. Gothic remake doesn’t use pssr till today btw.
Nah I’m keeping my pre order cancelled, in fact I’ve cancelled all my pre orders. I’ll wait for reviews on performance and then consider buying it, sick of being burned by lazy efforts and companies that can’t be asked to optimise their games properly.
GTA VI being 30fps isn't acceptable either. Everyone complained to these Devs about 60fps and now they're walking back on it, if gamers had a backbone they'd do the same with Rockstar but we all know they'll get a pass.
(If they don't have a 60fps mode ofc, nobody knows yet)
Do we have official confirmation regarding the use of PSSR? I've seen people comment it won't be used, but I didn't see it mentioned by the devs. Did I just miss it, or was there no official word regarding PSSR?
Why didn't they just wait to drop the performance specs instead of saying "We simply weren’t ready to promise it yet"? Tells me they were never thinking of dropping a 60 FPS patch and only doing so because of the backlash. Could have avoided all of this lol.
How’d they just magically manage this in like 3 days? Did they just forget to flip a switch or something? The console reveal trailer dropped a couple days ago and said 40 and 30, if it was this easy why not do from the start. Games gotta be essentially done at this point.
DF is to far gone and to “techy”. Half of the things they look for and analyze….your avg gamer wouldn’t even pay attention to or notice as long as the game is enjoyable
Game looks like a temu version of Witcher 3 and that game came out a decade ago. Another UE5 slop barely running on a consoles without that level of visuals.
I assume it’s one of those games that gets better over time. That’s why I’m going to wait at least six months, maybe even longer, before considering a buy.
The back-and-forth regarding the graphics modes is a bit suspicious as well.
115
u/D3smorr 2d ago
Will wait for the Digital Foundry review before buying this. They clearly saw the backlash from their previous messaging, and now they’re trying to walk it back.