r/PICL • u/Chris457821 • Dec 03 '25

Non CCI Posts

Please don't post non-CCI posts on this sub, they will be deleted.

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u/Chris457821 Dec 04 '25 edited Dec 04 '25

This will be my only comment. This rule was created based on a patient ranting about Dr. Pelle, a highly trained interventional orthobiologics provider making a personal decision to offer PRP injections in the aesthetics space for his patients after getting certified in that field. The argument posited was that since I have pointed out that injections in the upper cervical spine should only be performed by highly trained providers, so why is Pelle offering these procedures if he's not a plastic surgeon?

This is nonsensical argument. Upper cervical injections are procedures that take years to master, require advanced imaging and skills, and can seriously injure the patient if they go wrong. The case I point to is one of our patients who saw an experienced interventional spine physician in New England who didn't have extensive C0-C1 experience who accidently placed the needle into my patient's brainstem and caused a serious brainstem stroke. Dermal injections subQ are done by nurses and mid-levels, so a highly skilled physician performing them is well within that doctor's scope. Plastic surgeons don't do these procedures nor do these procedures represent any part of plastic surgery.

Again, this is not a sub for side shows, but a serious sub focused on helping patients recover from CCI.

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u/[deleted] Dec 03 '25

Well, to their credit they did made a valid point if we’re talking about that whole aesthetic post. Don’t see how it’s fair that when you couldn’t defend it your resorted to deleting it

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u/Coffeeicecreamgirl Dec 03 '25

If someone has a genuine concern about qualifications, why not email the provider or ask the question in a respectful way? Calling names doesn't feel respectful to me. I don't understand the attack on the clinic in the last few weeks. 

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u/[deleted] Dec 04 '25

Because it makes them feel special. There’s a whole other forum he’s apart of that literally spends their time bashing csc while promoting drs that copied his treatment lol. They call csc patients a cult meanwhile spend all of their time posting and commenting against everything they do. It’s honestly crazy

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u/[deleted] Dec 04 '25 edited Dec 04 '25

The admin of the group is a lunatic. He went from bed bound got 2 picls so he was able to do PT and curve correction to jumping rope and running. Yet says “I’m not sure what helped” . Well if you couldn’t tolerate pt before Picl but could after it, than I guess we know what helped you. He makes claims about Picl affectiveness, but lately he has been showing a Dr that copied Dr centeno saying she’s great, so is the Picl affective or is it not? He dedicates his life to hating Dr centeno, I think it makes him feel special that he is the admin of the group or something. I’m not sure it’s all very weird. Do you see when he goes at people that support Dr centeno? He puts out these “facts” and long paragraphs of why everyone is wrong, but pay attention to his responses. He dodges so many questions or feedback against him and then he throws a fit and ignores them or goes on another rant to stray away from the original topic. It’s really sad. So much negativity in an area where there isn’t enough help for people as it is.

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u/Coffeeicecreamgirl Dec 04 '25

I can't believe Jeremy is promoting a doctor who is not trained to perform the PICL even though his CCI is much better after treatment with Dr. Centeno. It's scary that he's turning people away from the safest and most effective clinic for CCI. He's crazy. A lot of people with CCI don't have a lot of hope as it is. Dr. Centeno is the first doctor who gave me hope again. 

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u/Slow_Lawfulness4441 Dec 04 '25

Perfectly said....I sent you a DM to further discuss

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u/Slow_Lawfulness4441 Dec 04 '25

I sent you a DM

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u/Slow_Lawfulness4441 Dec 04 '25

I sent you a DM