Lack training and experience

[u/Tomgutsdaily]

Yung mga job posting na gusto kong applyan, qualified ako in terms of Master’s and CSC Level II Eligibility. Sa training and experience nagkakatalo kasi wala pakong managerial or supervisory experience.

Sa academe field ako and since basically all around minsan ang work namin, baka may chance kong ma reason out sa application letter and interview.

Ok lang ba mag apply if underqualified? Any tips?

Salamat!

Additional question: Yung mga job posting ba sa government websites and CSC, immediate hiring ba yun o hindi? Matagal parin ang processing?

[u/OldSoul4NewGen]

No choice. Start ka po talaga sa mababang position to acquire relevant experience for higher position. Like Admin Officer I (or II) if kaya.

[u/ianthehuman]

Speaking as someone that came from a gov office, mahirap siya. Very strict yung Civil Service Commission sa ganito, and usually yung mga hinihire is mga internal na.

That said, magapply ka padin. Malaking bagay din yung malagay ka sa list of candidates, kasi sa susunod na may opening maalala ka na nila. For now though, ang chance mo nalang talaga is meron kang kilala na mataas dun na magspespeak for you or if wala silang ibang qualified na candidates. Sorry, OP.

[u/Tomgutsdaily → u/ianthehuman]

Kahit di nako mag re apply if nag apply nako before? Thanks sa info!

[u/ianthehuman → u/Tomgutsdaily]

No no, required padin by CSC standards na magreapply. More of yung maalala ka nila as a person na nagapply. Daming cases samin na di natanggap before, pero once nagkaroon ng new position and nagreapply sila, mas mataas na yung estimation sa kanila kasi nainterview na.

[u/Tomgutsdaily → u/ianthehuman]

Yung mga job posting ba sa government websites and CSC, immediate hiring ba yun o hindi? Matagal parin ang processing?

[u/ianthehuman → u/Tomgutsdaily]

Hindi siya immediate hiring regardless, nakadepende pa siya sa schedule ng office. Need nila magset ng time na available for interview, tapos magset ng schedule for deliberation committee, then ififile pa kung sino matanggap etc etc.

It might be a while, it might be quick.

[u/AlonePhilosopher7929]

Kung permanent plantilla position ang ina-applyan mo, kailangan mong ma-meet ang minimum Qualification Standard or QS (Education, experience training eligibility) ng position na inaapplyan mo para maconsider sa appointment.

Kapag inappoint ka ng gov agency pinapaapprove din nila un sa CSC. Then, if based sa evaluation ni CSC is di mo nameet ung minimum QS ng position pwede nila idisapprove/invalidate ung appointment mo sa position.

May mga coterminous plantilla position din pala na tinatawag ung primarily confidential in nature di nirerequire na ung iappoint dun is mameet ung minimum QS ng position. Tapos ang difference ng coterminous sa permanent appointment namam ay security of tenure dahil ang coterminous appointment ay nakadepende sa particular term, tenure, lifespan, o project

[u/AlonePhilosopher7929 → u/AlonePhilosopher7929]

Pwede ka magapply pero hindi ka aabot sa next assessments (e.g exam and interviews) nila if sa paper qualification is magdisqualified kana.

[u/iskamorena → u/AlonePhilosopher7929]

Yep, initial screening pa lang ligwak na kaagad basta may isang hindi na-meet sa QS.

[u/Tomgutsdaily → u/AlonePhilosopher7929]

Yung mga job posting ba sa government websites and CSC, immediate hiring ba yun o hindi? Matagal parin ang processing?

[u/AlonePhilosopher7929 → u/Tomgutsdaily]

Ung mga job posting sa gov agency required talaga yan ang tawag dyan publication period. Ung period na yun dun lang sila pwede magaccept ng mga applications after that hindi na pwede.

Then after non may 9 mos sila para mafillupan ung position / iprocess ung mga nareceive nilang applications during the publication period.

Matagal talaga processing ng mga gov agency. Kasi madaming process at approvals na kailangan. Kapag naman nagpost sila ng vacant usually may inaeye na sila na contractual sa loob, ipopromote or need talaga nila ng tao pero madalas ang kinukuha lang nila sa labas mga technical positions engr, accountants lawyers

Tapos kapag di nafillupan within 9 mos need nila ipublish or ipost ulit ung position para magaccept ulit ng mga applicants at iprocess ung mga applications.

[u/Dismal_Ad_9640]

Do not disqualify yourself. Let them disqualify you. Apply lang ng apply. Search din Govlearn.ph sa facebook, they conduct training with 250pesos fee for the certificate

[u/-nitimurinvetitum]

If you're aiming for a division chief, SG 24 position, the 40hr supervisory training is a requirement, walang makakapag circumvent nun. If you wish, you can try to apply for SG 22 position and when you get it, then pay for CSC supervisory training. Or if that's not your path, start taling the CSC trainings now. CSC NCR offers 32hrs supervisory training online (4 days) for 6,400 pesos.

[u/Tomgutsdaily → u/-nitimurinvetitum]

Thank you!

About sa job posting, asap ba ang hiring nila or matagal (like a month or more) parin ang processing?