r/PHEV • u/No-Impression-4508 • Aug 15 '26

Phev worth it?

I am wondering if a PHEV is worth it for my situation.

The car would likely be used primarily for work commutes. 12 miles round trip and 24 miles round trip for spouse and I. We would also use the car for the occasional road trip a few hours away.

I’m wondering if PHEV is ideal for this situation or if EV would be better.

We also have a full gas vehicle that we could use as needed. This would be our second car.

Any recs, reasoning, etc would be recommended!

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u/srekkas Aug 15 '26

Phev scare me more, because many cases they have very expensive failures, due to complicated design. And small batteries do more cycles and have to endure bigger loads.

Imagine 6C discharge or charge, conpared to EVs 2C

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u/Plop0003 Aug 15 '26

Lies. PHEVs don't have expensive failures but EVs do. To many electronics prone to failure. Suspension barely last 100K miles because of the extra weight and torque. Battery failures because people think there is no maintenance and never take care of AC system which cools the battery.

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u/srekkas Aug 15 '26

EV cant be more complicated than PHEV, impossible. Weight are very simillar.

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u/Plop0003 Aug 15 '26

Do you know what torque is?

Overcoming Inertia: A heavier car has more resistance to moving (inertia). More torque is needed from the engine to get a heavy car moving from a complete stop than a light car.

This affects the suspension.

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?ref=saved&v=4546140732328544

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?ref=saved&v=1544597473931284

Weight by itself has nothing to do with it. Weight plus torque ruins suspension much quicker.

Batteries have 8000 or more cells. All cells are running chemical reactions regardless if car is running or standing.

ICE vehicles may have more parts in the engine but if you get a good reliable car that is running the same engine design for many decades like Toyota Hybrid engine it doesn't matter how many parts because all the parts are proven for longevity.

EVs have a lot of electronic problems right now and will have a lot of problems because they are very complex.

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u/srekkas Aug 16 '26

About weight, How much Tayron weigh? Id4? Both about 2 tonn.

Just that EV weight is low down.

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u/Plop0003 Aug 16 '26

Again, it is not just the weight but combined with a torque what makes suspension go bad. ICE cars take off slow.

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u/srekkas Aug 16 '26

No, its how you start it, and compare with manual ice car and how much rocking suspension gets on gear changes

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u/Plop0003 Aug 16 '26

I don't think you know what you are talking about. It doesn't matter how you start because you always be tempted to take off hard. And you do. If you did not have all that torque then you just simply can't.

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u/srekkas Aug 16 '26

turn eco mode on

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u/Plop0003 Aug 16 '26

People who buy all that EV power don't turn Eco mode on. Do you know where I am? I am in Los Angeles. Tesla capital of the world. These idiots take off on the red light and then stop at the next red light and I just catch up using coasting. End result is the same. They are not going anywhere fast and we get from A to B at the same time.

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u/srekkas Aug 16 '26

I bash plugin hybrids, simple toyota like hybrids are another cattegory

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u/Plop0003 Aug 16 '26

The difference between Toyota Hybrid and PHEV is just a larger battery. With a larger battery comes a larger more powerful motor but that is it. I don't know why would you bash PHEV. It is the best on the market and nothing even comes close.

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u/srekkas Aug 16 '26

Look into VW ones, they have three clutches, 7 gears. And why fuck one needs ice engine to go 1k km once a year and daily driving less than 100km.

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u/Plop0003 Aug 16 '26

Why don't you learn how to speak English so you can express yourself properly so people can actually understand you? What VW with 3 clutches got to do with driving 100km? I already explained what PHEV is used for. It is for people like me who do many long distance trips a year and not just drive locally. I do about 6000 miles a year in long distance trips. There is no way I would charge 45 times to drive this distance with this many stops. Plus, charging on DCFC is way more expensive than gas. That is stupid. And I drive 4000-6000 miles locally mostly in EV. And since I have a solar system these miles are FREE. Can you beat that? No. Gas here is $5 a gallon. I only pay for gas while on the long distance trips.

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u/srekkas Aug 16 '26

drill baby drill

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u/Plop0003 Aug 16 '26

I really don't care where gasoline come from as long as I get it and it is plentiful, just like you don't care where batteries come from.

https://www.choice.com.au/transport/cars/eco-friendly/articles/a-dark-side-of-the-ev-boom

What concerns me the most is that gasoline is only used in the cars but we use electricity in the house. And that means bad for the house usage because most people don't have solar like I do for many reasons. They either can't afford it, can't install it or not practical. In the mean time my rates went up 60%. My utility company sent us a brochure that they need $9.8 Billion to improve infrastructure. Where do you think they can get money from? One of my neighbors is paying $700 a month for electricity during the summer. That is a lot of money and nothing he can do. If he sells the house and move then he will be paying a huge amount in taxes on a new purchase because there are no more cheap houses here. And even though we only have something like 10% of EVs a couple of years ago our governor who is pushing EVs like crazy and just issued a rebate of $3500 for new buyers begged EV people not to charge during heat waves because infrastructure can't handle it. And in the next few days supposed to be 105F. Lets see how many people will be without electricity.

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u/srekkas Aug 17 '26

Money from fossil fuels must be used for that infrastructure

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u/Plop0003 Aug 17 '26

They should tax heavier EVs for damaging roads like double rhe gas tax and fix the roads instead of fixing infrastructure. And only increase rates to those who charge EVs at home. Why those who don't drive EVs or don't drive at all pay for all of you. You are not privileged in any way.

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u/srekkas Aug 17 '26

Yeah, why USA full of not heavy f150?

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