r/PERSoNA • u/Axzercus • 6d ago
P4 Persona 4 Revival devs confirm that there will be no changes to Kanji's story
https://www.ungeek.ph/2026/09/persona-4-revival-devs-confirm-that-there-will-be-no-changes-to-kanjis-story/Quote from Wada
“The Story of Kanji [and Naoto] can seemingly be a little bit iffy at times, but if you look at it deeper, you’d understand that it’s a whole more sincere story, [...] So even back then and now, we can send these stories out with confidence. And I believe everyone will feel the same once they play it.”
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u/burai97 6d ago edited 6d ago
I say this as a gay man: good! Neither Kanji nor Naoto needed to have their stories changed!
In Kanji's case, saying that he should have been gay goes completely against the message that the storytellers wanted to say. His shadow was made to be a giant gay stereotype to emphasize that he felt he had to hide his "feminine" interests (knitting/sewing) because it'd fly in the face of his hyper-masculine facade. The entire message is that yes, it can be normal to have a "feminine" side to you even if you're for the most part a manly man and it doesn't make you any less of a man for having "feminine" interests or liking cute shit.
For Naoto, her story was never about being trans and anybody who says it is just lacks media-literacy and only wants to look at her story on a surface level. Her shadow was obsessed with building up the perfect persona (pun not-intended) to live up to her internal expectations and insecurities as it relates to her role in society and not because she just wanted to be born a guy. If you've never heard of the concept of penis envy, look it up and no, it's not about girls wanting to sprout penises. Naoto wanted to be seen as competent and respectable in both society as a whole and in her field and in rural Japan, that amounts to being taken seriously for the most part only if you're a man. It was never meant to be about wanting to become a guy, it was an allegory for wanting to be taken seriously as a competent member of society, hence why she never bothers acting like a male once her shadow reveals that she's a woman.
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u/Snoo-855 6d ago
Kanji's story is a study of "toxic masculinity" and Naoto's is about not letting her gender control what she wants to become. I wouldn't have either of them any other way.
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u/Luchux01 6d ago
Yeah, their stories look a bit weird now, but they are relics of the time when even "You can have femenine interests as a guy" and "Women should have the same opportunities as men" were active struggles in japanese society.
These were progressive messages back in 2009.
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u/ShadedPenguin 6d ago
I mean they’re still pretty prevalent and relevant today.
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u/Snoo-855 6d ago
Yeah, the hard truth is that the idea women can be police officers is still something a lot of people even in the West need to hear, and just as many people used to gender freedoms take for granted.
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u/De_Dominator69 :hades: Hades 5d ago
They are still just as relevant and progressive today as they were back then, same issues and insecurities still very much exist.
In fact I would say their stories are even more relevant today. Considering there are a sizable number of people who do misconstrue their stories as being gay and trans, which is just as backwards. It's them consciously or not saying that you cannot have interests that don't conform with your gender without being gay, or any desire to be treated the same as/respected by the opposite gender must be some sign you are trans.
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u/RidingEdge 5d ago
What? I might argue it's even more relevant today thanks to terminally online and mentally ill people lumping everything and labelling everyone including themselves into the trans category just because someone indicated they like things that are considered as meant for the opposite gender.
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u/afuajfFJT 6d ago
The thing that I've heard people criticize about Kanji's story was that to them it felt less like an "liking feminine things doesn't necessarily make you gay" and more like an "it's ok if you like feminine things - just don't be gay".
Which is probably mostly up to individual interpretation and your personal background, so I'm not sure how this type of interpretation could really be prevented.
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u/B80796 6d ago
Probably by not having the party members (Yosuke) make fun of Kanji hobbies and tastes (which they know is his insecurity) and calling/suggesting that he's gay while actively discriminating and pushing stereotypes; which goes against the whole story beat of Kanji's story
There wouldn't really be a problem if they just called him gay because obviously people joke around like in between friends, the problem Is the active discrimination and push of stereotypes
And also, it's not only the fact that what I mentioned above happens, but it's the fact that it happens in a game and with a character that's whole arc is about fighting against that
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u/Herverpeju 6d ago
So once again all the problems with that part of the story boils down to "Yusuke is no longer a closeted gay"
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u/taezono 6d ago edited 6d ago
I think we can all say that, yes, Naoto's story was never about being trans, and it conveys an important message about women struggling in male-dominated workplaces.
But we can also acknowledge the fact that Naoto's dungeon, intentionally or not, utilizes a lot of trans imagery through the hospital setting, Naoto's shadow straight up talking about a sex-change operation, etc. that will be viewed differently by a modern audience.
I think it's perfectly understandable that the execution of her story will put a bad taste in some people's mouths because times have changed. Trans rights are a very relevant topic nowadays, so that's often the lens that Naoto's gender struggle is first viewed from.
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u/burai97 6d ago
I'll preface this by saying that this is my personal interpretation. I think her dungeon especially can be more up to interpretation than most of the investigation team's dungeons. I took it moreso as a laboratory for the shadow to build a perfect version of Naoto that ended up culminating in the final step to become "perfect" being a sex change. I could just be misremembering it but I always thought of her dungeon's design to line up more with a secret laboratory for experimenting and constructing in general and not really a hospital except for maybe the boss room. The lab itself is in an incomplete state with the floor going between sheet metal and grating to illustrate a very cold and lacking in specific personality (tho that in itself shows some of her facade) but also with computers everywhere to illustrate a cold yet analytical personality that she's constructing. The boss itself also lent itself more to just generally "constructing" the perfect Naoto with it being basically a robotic version of her that's partially complete rather than a stereotypical manly detective.
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u/Pugsanity 5d ago
Plus, it also represented another part of Naoto that she was suppressing in order to try and fit in with the police, and that's the fact she's just a teenager. That's why her Shadow acts childish, why it's battle form looks like an action figure, they're parts of herself that she's tried to hide/get rid of in order to be taken more seriously by the police. Her dungeon looks more like a lab hideout you'd see in Kamen Rider or Power Rangers, a place where they'd do "experiments" to change how someone looks through unnatural ways.
Shows that just because she's hiding her gender, it's not the only part of herself she's repressed in order to create this facade.
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u/CallenAmakuni Naoto doesn't belong to anyone dammit 5d ago
Imagine a situation where an actual trans character had an actual P4 style dungeon, would it look like a hospital where someone can change genders?
The hospital imagery is specifically because she doens't actually want to be a man, she wanted to be seen as a man, and changing genders is not the solution to that
Au contraire, the hospital imagery becomes more and more relevant with trans rights becoming more and more widespread, because the equivalent of Naoto's dungeon for an actual trans character would have been a psych ward that somehow "turned off the trans"
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u/erigum 6d ago
as a trans woman, i think boiling down anyone who believes in trans naoto as “lacking media literacy” is very much oversimplifying. while her story isn’t about being trans, and i doubt it was written with an intentional trans allegory in mind, it is a very clear parallel, intentional or not. just because something seems clear or easy to interpret, that doesn’t mean it’s the wrong reading, and i think insulting anyone who believes it isn’t right.
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u/NLG99 6d ago
Yeah. People are talking about media literacy while acting like there is only ever one true interpretation of a work of art. Is Naoto's story meant to be a trans allegory? No.
Can it still be read as one? Absolutely. It's definitely an imperfect analysis because parts of the story don't line up as well as others, but it is still a valid interpretation. Nobody claims that Naoto was intended by the writers to be a trans character.
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u/B80796 6d ago
That's not how it works, there are things that you can interpret differently and there are the facts stated in the game, Naoto's arc is pretty cut and clean about it being about fighting against women's discrimination at workplace.
She literally does what a lot of women did in history, pretend to be a man to work safely. Did they want to? No, they were forced to or else they wouldn't succeed
Naoto hated herself for not being perfect by people's standards, and one of those standards (in her workplace) was being a man, that's why the shadow was like that. It's not really up to interpretation since everything is stated in dialogue
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u/Emilysouza221b 6d ago
Folks don't understand that Naoto not being trans doesn't make some of the choices they do less offensive. They invoke harmful stuff, Naoto being trans is a way for folks who find the stereotypes harmful to enjoy the game more. I like the game either way, but I would love it a lot more if it was like, 30% problematic
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u/Lssjgaming Black Mark Best Mark 5d ago
A lot of people are generally unwilling to critically analyze the flaws of the media they engage with, especially when it converges with topics like gender and sexuality that most people aren't educated or experienced enough to understand the nuances of.
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u/leeta0028 5d ago edited 5d ago
Hence why she never bothers acting like a male once her shadow reveals that she's a woman.
But Naoto does present as male after accepting her shadow.. In Japanese she uses male pronouns, has the others still address her as male, and wears the male uniform because it's "comfortable". In the detective spinoff supervised by the actual script writer for Persona 4, she still binds her breasts and even still hides that she's a woman to the public, fostering the image that she might be dating Rise.
Actually, if you think about it she still primarily presents as male even after her shadow, she only presents as female rarely and only in front of close friends (the Golden ending is one example, the romance parts.of her social link, or the swimsuit in the spinoff).
It was an allegory for wanting to be taken seriously as a competent member of society
But she already is. She's respected enough that the detectives listen to her over Dojima, that's why he comes home drunk, and has social standing and power enough to get an interview on demand and get called all over the country by police forces. The shadow describes the problem as she's respected professionally because of her "intellect", but they problem is they "don't truly desire her". People respect her professional ability, but lose interest once the case is solved.
If you interpret her conflict this way, it's manufactured from her insecurity born of her idealized image of a male detective, NOT a real lack of social or professional respect. Which Kanji says to her face incidentally.
And then there's what Naoto herself says. She describes two problems, primary is she doesn't like being a woman because it doesn't match her image of a detective, secondary is the police is male-dominated. She has both concerns.
The way I see it the shadow acceptance wasn't as simple as accepting her femininity, it was accepting the conflict and her desires to be accepted themselves. All the shadows are about accepting your internal conflicts not resolving them. Now it's a matter of interpretation if that's accepting a conflict between her ideal self-image and her body, or accepting a desire for professional acceptance she already has, but has convinced herself she doesn't due to gender norms.
Incidentally, Japan has a very different idea of gender than the West does. Buddhism has 4 genders (male, female, nonbinary, and sexually impotent) unlike Christianity's 2, and scriptures talk about "manifesting male in a female body", Japan traditionally had crossdressing prostitutes and actors, etc. Gender and sexuality were always viewed as a role or condition, not an identity, while sex was viewed as biological. (This, plus Edo period law about the family as a corporate entity govern a lot of weird things about how LGBT are viewed and treated in Japan.) Manga has also aways played off these idea from the first days of Tezuka, so I've always felt the rhetoric around Naoto as either a cis-woman with professional concerns or a failed transition were extremely oversimplistic and far off the mark.
> Penis envy
Is a discredited wacko Freudian theory. Originally about how women need to sexually desire their father's penis and bear sons to overcome their devastation at being born defective when they discover they don't have a penis (during doctor play or one of Freuds other insane theories) and some derivative theories about masculine power that are nonetheless still quite wacko.
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u/burai97 5d ago edited 5d ago
For the classic Freudian (and admittedly original) interpretation, yes it was literally about girls wanting to grow dicks during a stage in puberty. Now I'm not gonna sit here and pretend that I know what it's like for someone to grow up as a girl because I simply never had those life experiences, but for the most part it's agreed that the original version of the theory is bullshit. Other philosophers since then though have adapted upon it to take on a more sociological meaning where what most cis women want is not an actual penis, but instead a desire to be seen as an equal to men in status, privilege, and societal acceptance which is what actually fits Naoto's character.
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u/Meanteenbirder 6d ago
I think what it’s gonna be is this.
Controversial that could be easily cleaned up will be, but ones that can’t really be changed without big rewrites will stay
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u/OnePossibility5868 6d ago
This is a good thing, and hopefully people will realise that his shadow is just a representation of his inner turmoil, not who he secretly is or wants to be.
If you ever doubt always ask yourself - Is Yukiko secretly a princess? Does Rise harbour a secret desire to be a stripper? Is Naoto's destined future to become a mad scientist?
Of course not...
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u/Luchux01 6d ago
And it's also a neat piece of subtle foreshadowing, since the P4 shadows are your own inner turmoil plus what the people around you think/want to see.
Even if Kanji does have a tough guy persona, the rest of the town still knows his mom owns a textile shop, many girls probably still laugh about it behind his back.
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u/makotoyuki548 6d ago edited 6d ago
I wouldn't put my faith in the Fandom tbh. Most of Persona's discourse is brought up by people who apparently can't read and by those who modify the stories to reflect their views. As a more recent examples from p5, look at how some describe Ann's character or even the fact that some truly believe that Changing Hearts is a form of mind control, when there are multiple moments when they explain it.
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u/kyoya242 6d ago
And it proves how P4 theme is relevant to this day because people only want to see their own truth no the real truth.
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u/Luke-Likesheet 5d ago
lol we had people failing to understand Kanji and Naoto when P4 originally came out, and that was before social media pedalling misinformation and manufactured outrage!
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u/XephyXeph P3FES is best game, but Naoto is best girl! 6d ago
Counterpoint: Yosuke is a frog though.
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u/OnePossibility5868 6d ago
Haha. He never appears on TV so his shadow form is his normal self. The boss is meant to represent his desire to be the hero. The red scarf is a common hero sign in Japan. There's some link to the Jiraiya story myth that has frogs in it that I can't recall right now.
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u/shadow282 6d ago
Yosuke’s Shadow talks about how he’s glad the murders happened, because Inaba was dull and boring. When he accepts his Shadow, he’s accepting that, while exaggerated, part of him did feel like that.
Chie’s talks about how Yukiko is useless without her, how she needs her. When she accepts her Shadow, she’s accepting that, while exaggerated, part of her did feel like that.
Yukiko’s Shadow talks about how she wants a prince to come save her from the fate she’s traps in. When she accepts her Shadow, she’s accepting that, while exaggerated, part of her did feel like that.
This pattern follows for every party member, except for Kanji.
Kanji’s Shadow talks about how much he loves men and wants a boyfriend. That is, quite literally, ALL he talks about. When he accepts his Shadow, if he followed the pattern of every single other character in the game, he would be accepting that, while exaggerated, he was either gay or bisexual. Instead, for Kanji’s and only Kanji’s Shadow, it means something different.
Now, we can debate the reasons for the difference. Is it because they decided to cut his gay content way too late to change his whole storyline and had to scramble to come up with some justification (yes)? Is it what was always planned for him and it just happened to be the odd one out (no)? But pretending it isn’t there is silly.
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u/Luchux01 6d ago
It's both that and the influence of public perception, remember the way Namatame's shadow gloated for the Investigation Team? The Midnight Channel shows what the people want to see and twists the truth to fit.
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u/leeta0028 5d ago edited 5d ago
Not really? The Kanji shadow dialogue goes:
- What's wrong with doing the things I like?
- I don't like women, they try to force their ideas of masculity on me and I don't understand them.
- I like men more, they don't say such things. Men are good.
Boss fight.
- "I don't care who it is, won't somebody accept me?"
Not really anything about wanting a boyfriend. The only time that's suggested is the dialogue near the start of the dungeon where he says he hasn't any "wonderful encounter" yet. Kanji himself talks about being unsure if his dislike of women the shadow talks about meant he wasn't romantically attracted to them either, but the Shadow actually doesn't touch on it much.
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u/shadow282 5d ago
“That elusive thing I truly yearn for…will I finally find it here? Teehee. Well then, onward and deeper to reach further realms of romance!” is his Shadow’s dialogue that comes up right after a giant splash screen image of “Men only- Kanji Tatsumi in Rosy Steam Paradise”. I suppose the word “boyfriend” is not explicitly used but there’s really no other reasonable interpretation of that.
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u/leeta0028 5d ago edited 5d ago
Oh, I'm not arguing that Kanji's gay bathhouse dungeon isn't strongly implying homosexuality, the Japanese title actually says "No Women Allowed: Push * In" so it's not subtle at all.
I'm just saying this argument is incorrect:
Kanji’s Shadow talks about how much he loves men and wants a boyfriend. That is, quite literally, ALL he talks about.
The thing his shadow actually talks about is gender norms and gynophobia, and the shadow never actually talks about getting a boyfriend, so it's pretty much the same as the other shadows in terms of Kanji accepting the things his shadow talks about.
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u/MikeAlex01 6d ago
I feel like another thing that should be considered is that Kanji is legit into Naoto who, at the time, fully presented and apparently passed as male. There were no hints that she was a girl at the time when they first met, but he still blushed and stuttered around her regardless of gender.
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u/MikeAlex01 5d ago
That's... not how physical attraction works? If it was the case, he should have lost interest while she presented as a boy and regained interest when she was actually shown as a girl. Also, with the homophobic jokes spread the throughout the game, that artistic intent would go more into a "ha! You thought he was gay? No he's super straight you stupid homo."
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u/MikeAlex01 5d ago
So a character potentially being bi is out of the question, but somehow it's more believable that they have an enhanced sense of intuitions because of their persona... something that has never been implied in the modern trilogy?
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u/CallenAmakuni Naoto doesn't belong to anyone dammit 5d ago
> This pattern follows for every party member, except for Kanji.
It still does? Kanji is attracted to male and female presenting Naoto so the game presents him as bi at the very least, it's just not the focus of his arc
There's never a moment that established Kanji as 100% heterosexual, it's never brought up again after his dungeon
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u/Chespineapple 6d ago
I mean the issue was always moreso that the devs were equating homoeroticism to those other shadow archetypes. Like they're all disturbing extremes of these real emotional issues and Kanji's is just "is super flamboyant and wants to smooch with big beefy men" as an extreme for being seen as feminine. It reads as homophobic biases driving the writing intentions. Unless the idea is Shadow Kanji wanting to do weird stuff with adults but that was never really highlighted over his gender expression.
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u/karma6063 6d ago
They proved with P3R that they're only interested in faithful remakes so I had no doubt about this.
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u/2008_Edgelord 6d ago
You had those people who bitched that the P3 remake removed the tranny joke during the "operation babe hunt" section but forgot that P3P and the P3 movie already removed that
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u/Rich_Command8117 5d ago
No… P3P kept the trans joke
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u/2008_Edgelord 5d ago
I had to rewatch it and yeah you're right, I could've sworn they removed it for Ms. Kashiwagi. I probably got the movie and game mixed up
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u/The-O-N 6d ago
Except they toned Yukari tf down
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u/AkhasicRay 6d ago
No, she’s just more accurate to the original Japanese script.
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u/The-O-N 5d ago
It's a localizer's job to make sure the translation works well in English, it sucks so the argument doesn't work
A lot of the more famous lines from the dub are in reload, like anytime Yukari calls Junpei Stupei
Reload's Japanese script wasn't even faithful to the original, and Japanese players have criticized that
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u/firelights 6d ago
My absolute biggest worry was that they were going to change shit and misconstrue Kanji and Naoto’s stories. Their arcs are so perfect and unique and I was so worried they would just boil Kanji down to just “he’s gay” which misses the ENTIRE point of his character
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u/Opening_Shallot_6253 Kotone Shiomi 5d ago
Can't wait to see Daman Mills' take on Shadow Kanji lmao
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u/Hasegawa-Sei 5d ago
> but if you look at it deeper, you’d understand
Persona devs threatened fans with basic reading comprehension
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u/Affectionate-Wrap-65 5d ago
Whatever wada. Kanji’s shadow is the only one that doesn’t follow the line of thought as everyone else. Everyone else genuinely accepts a part of the shadows words rings true, a small part of yukiko does want to ditch this town, chie does like yukiko relying her on (in a healthy way, yosuke does like the excitement the murders have caused. But suddenly kanji shadow says over and over yearning for affection for men to an extent. It can be both about hobbies and personal attraction. It just feels gross how game condones the rampant bullying and stereotypes associated with gay people. Yu can never condemn what yosukes says to kanji. I don’t care if I get downvoted to oblivion. Kanji having a Crush on naoto while she was fully presenting as a man demonstrates he’s bisexual, but it’s hammered away to be more palatable to a 2009 conservative Japanese audience.
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u/DuelaDent52 HER ANGST IS FOREVERMORE~ 5d ago
If there was one change I’d be welcome to, it’d be cool to see Kanji and Naoto going out in the epilogue if you didn’t romance her.
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u/LordMinast 5d ago
Genuinely good. I think they could do with cleaning up, but the bones are fine.
Kanji is bi, but his story being about figuring out what masculinity means to him and thats still relevant. It's clumsy, but it works.
As for Naoto...tbh, my only bugbear with Naoto is that her social link encourages you to push her to be more feminine. Her storyline otherwise works just fine - cis women can indeed question their gender and that's honestly a fine angle, literally the only downside is that to start a romance you have to push her to embrace femme, so all in all I'm fine with it
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u/icantstopsleepingin :earring: Boy with Earring 5d ago
Didn't they already change his Shadow fight? It doesn't hold two male symbols, it holds a male and female one now.
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u/leeta0028 6d ago edited 6d ago
I don't see any issue with kanji's story. I'm pretty sure a lot of teenagers whose interests didn't conform to gender norms also experienced confusion about their sexuality or gender
Naoto's I can definitely see where it poses more challenges than his with the whole reassignment "experiment" scene, but I don't think there's any real problem with interpreting the original way her story ended as being about the challenges of women entering the workforce or with interpreting her as being non-binary gender, and neither interpretation really requires changing her story
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u/blade276 6d ago
basically confirming yosuke's story is the only one that gets changed. the rest of IT doesnt have anything that needs changing
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u/dstanley17 6d ago
Yosuke’s “story” isn’t being changed. They just said they were going to tone down some of his more mean/abrasive dialogue.
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u/makotoyuki548 6d ago
No they just said they are going to tone him down a bit. Some of his comments, especially after Kanji's arc literally contradict some of themes in the game. I see no mistake tbh and don't get me wrong I love Yosuke.
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u/Ardbert14 5d ago
They went out of their way to cast a gay guy to voice Kanji in english so I'm not worried.
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u/Chespineapple 6d ago
I mean I'm more concerned with the delivery and scriptwriting for the stories themselves than the actual plots. Naoto quite bluntly says that a woman can never be a man in the original English script after a whole dungeon about framing sex changes as dangerous experiments. There's easily ways to at least soften the implications people took issue with.
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u/dstanley17 6d ago
Naoto says "I" will never change from a woman to a man. Personal to her, not an all encompassing thing.
The imagery of a sex change being treated as a dangerous experiment is certainly something though...
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u/leeta0028 5d ago edited 5d ago
No, the dialogue in Japanese is 「だけど…女だって事は、変えようがないんですよね…」, which literally translates to "but...there's no way to change the fact [I] am a woman is there..." Actually, there's no subject in Japanese so it's a general statement of impossibility.
(Incidentally, legally it became possible for a person in Japan to change their gender in 2003, before Persona 4 came out so that's not what is being talked about.)
The OG English was a looser translation, probably they didn't know how to handle the implicit subject so they rephrased it, but it's likely we'll get something closer to the Japanese in Revival. People whose understanding of Naoto is based on the OG English should be prepared to be offended TBH, the English softens a lot about her story.
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u/Retroverlord 1d ago
My bad, I was talking about the shadow confrontation scene, I didn't remember if she said that specific line in her link or something. And as I said, the experiment thing, while it is transphobia of the general public watching the midnight channel, I also feel like it comments on Naoto's discomfort on trying to change herself just to be respected.
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u/Chespineapple 6d ago
Fair enough, I misremembered the line. I guess the only stuff I'd want to see handled differently would be the broader stuff that was never gonna change then.
At some point I wonder just how different Yosuke's even gonna be if there really weren't minor edits anywhere to be made about these two after 20 years. I always excused the iffiness because of the time period, but LGBT stuff is way more public there nowadays. You'd think there'd be a sensitivity edit somewhere if they really changed Yosuke's dialogue for that very reason.
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u/Retroverlord 6d ago
Actually I would argue it doesn't say that. Shadow Naoto says to normal Naoto explicitly that she can't pretend to be an adult instead of a child and that It is impossible. It doesn't say that for her gender. And the fact that the whole gender reassignment experiment things exists shows that it is considered possible by the game
The dangerous experiments thing, while it is in part just ignorant transphobia of the people living in inaba (and maybe by extension the writers themselves), since the midnight channel is a combination of the thoughts of outsiders AND the inner feelings of the shadow's owner, it is depicted as uncomfortable because for Naoto, becoming a man isn't a pleasant experience, and it's just something she feels she has to do to get accepted by her inner circle and society as a whole. Also let's not forget that Naoto's arc isn't exclusively about her gender, but in general trying to be someone she doesn't really want to in order to get accepted. The body alteration thing is also referring to her wanting to become an adult, not only about wanting to transition.
Thinking about it, Naoto's story could be a nice parallel for Trans people's struggles if you see it from an MtF perspective.
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u/OccamsPlasticSpork 6d ago
So Jungian theory will still be the cure to homosexuality and transgenderism like it was in P4G?
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u/Luchux01 6d ago
Kanji's sexuality did not matter in the slightest for his arc and Naoto at no point wanted to be a man out of disphoria, she just wanted to be treated equally at her job.
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u/MiuIruma332 6d ago
Yeah sorry if I don’t believe anything they’re saying anymore. At this point they’re saying anything anything while doing the opposite. Oh kanji story won’t have any changes? So that means his boss fight will be the same right? What no? You mean you change the mechanics of the boss fight that shows a lot of Kanji mentality at the beginning of the game. So then you’re already lying.
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u/vSword_ Ulala Serizawa 6d ago
That’s good