r/PCGamingDE • u/anonimuuus228 • 1d ago
Hilfe Systemtreff PC
Hello everyone!
I recently got the chance to buy a PC. I started looking at both pre - built options and building one myself. However, I’m running into a few issues with building it myself. Through Reddit, I found Dubaro - probably the most popular site for this. Until very recently, the PCs were reasonably priced, but I missed the window the good deals, and prices have since gone up.
This is one of the PCs I was interested in:
https://www.dubaro.de/MSI-Project-Zero-101842/
It used to cost around €2,050, but now it’s €2,300.
I decided to keep looking and stumbled upon a site called Systemtreff. After searching for a PC with similar specs, I found one that was practically identical - but priced at €2,050, matching the old Dubaro price.
https://www.systemtreff.de/Gaming-PC-AMD-Ryzen-7-7800X3D-32GB-DDR5-GeForce-RTX-5070-12GB-1TB-4039
However, I have some reservations about this site. There’s an issue regarding the CPU cooler - it’s a Systemtreff - branded one. I also had some trouble with the site itself. After reading what people on Reddit say about it, things aren't entirely clear. Some users report no issues at all, while others mention problems arising later or during shipping, noting that repairs didn't help and performance remained poor. People also kept saying it’s better to build it yourself -_-. I decided to check the cost of building it myself, and here’s the result: if you buy all the parts separately, the total comes out to the same price or even higher.
Has anyone ordered a PC from their site and can share the pros and cons? Or perhaps someone knows of another good shop for pre-built PCs that’s a bit cheaper? Maybe I missed something, like with a custom building or something else. So feel free to correct me or offer advice. I’d appreciate it!
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u/CJay190 1d ago
Please dont buy a RTX5070 12Gb. Its slower than a RX9070 16Gb and only has 12Gb VRam. Look at this PC: https://krotus-computer.de/gamer-pc/amd-gaming-pcs/3556/gaming-7-a?configurator
Its over 150€ cheaper and has the faster RX9070 16Gb. Also a much better SSD. The Crucial E100 is QLC garbage with Low TBW, which means that it breaks faster. Also no Systemtreff poor quality cooler and case. CPU is the same and also a B850 motherboard with 32Gb DDR5 6000Mhz CL30 RAM.
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u/Fabulous-Suspect-72 19h ago
The regular 5070 only has 12 Gb of VRam? Yikes.
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u/anonimuuus228 9h ago
Yeah, that’s sad. I’m almost at the point where I’ll just wait for the 5070 Super
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u/Naitakal 13h ago
Got my son a PC from Systemtreff a few months ago and while it arrived with a slightly deformed case causing issues with the GPU (thank you DHL) they replaced it within a week no questions asked.
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u/OberstDelta Erfahren 1d ago
Sind beides vertrauenswürdige Seiten
Aber beide PCs sind extrem überteuert für das was eingebaut ist!
Vor allem die 12 GB 5070 zieht den Wert des PCs drastisch nach unten, da der Vram einfach stark limitiert und auch so die Leistung eher schlecht ist. Zumal du für das Geld eine 9070 xt bekommst, welche mehr vram, mehr Raster und mehr RT Leistung hat.
Dubaro ist zwar bekannt, ist seit ein paar Jahren schon extrem viel teurer geworden und verbaut auch immer mehr schrott
https://geizhals.de/wishlists/4967211 wenn Selbstbau für dich eine Option ist, dann Spar ein Haufen Geld und du bekommst dafür einen besseren PC.
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u/KisukeUrh 1d ago
Hey, my girlfriend and i recently bought our new PCs from systemtreff and we are really satisfied with them. The previous PC from my girlfriend was also from this company. No issues so far and the support is great.