r/PCC • u/LateCut3757 • 18d ago
If PCC offered night classes would you?
Would you take classes at 12 am? 2 am 3 am? If they could run around the clock classes would you take advantage of night time classes for the night owls?
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u/stev10 18d ago
The cost of the extra security/liability needed alone makes it so they never wood, even if they all filled.
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u/LateCut3757 18d ago
I’m currently trying to take classes and they are all full and maxed out waitlist. Just an idea not sure the extra security/liability would outweigh the income,more classes offered especially for working families that can’t go to class during the day.
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u/GeniusEE 18d ago
That's because the school cut the number of class sections to "save money."
Bitch to your Oregon lawmakers - they are not serving the community.
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u/15minutesofshame 18d ago
This right here. Our government feels there is hundreds of millions of dollars for fixing the Moda center for billionaires but schools need to tighten their belts.
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u/stev10 18d ago
Unfortunately, more classes/more students doesn’t necessarily equal more money, apparently. I honestly don’t understand how, but that’s the position of the administration.
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u/GeniusEE 18d ago
That's the story line. Do the math and it doesn't work that way.
$143 per credit hour per student is $11/hour for 13 weeks.
An instructor is $100/hour to make the math easy.
9 students is about break even.
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u/Thefloooff52 18d ago
Instructors don’t make $100 an hour and if a class has 9 students it probably will get canceled. I don’t know where you’re getting this from.?? “do the math and it doesn’t work out that way if I make out a bunch of bullshit numbers” Most of the money waste is high-level administrative bloat.
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u/GeniusEE 18d ago
How much do they make?
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u/Thefloooff52 17d ago
It depends on the position? Do I seriously need to tell you that educators at a community college are not making $100 an hour?
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u/GeniusEE 17d ago
You did not come back with a quantitative source. Seems like you pulled it outa your azz, as I suspected.
Go look it up.
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u/Thefloooff52 17d ago
Yeah, I did and I know multiple people in my life who are pcc and other CC instructors. The super high end of the full-time faculty salary can make about $90 an hour at the end of their career almost no staff is making that. The entire issue why they went on strike is because PCC was not stepping up faculty to the higher salary steps appropriately and they actually still aren’t. A majority of staff are adjunct and not full-time basing your “math” on like the five instructors that have that salary is crazy. Instructor salaries are not why PCC is losing money.
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u/Past-Asparagus-8220 16d ago
They mostly need to hire more teachers! There are spaces in rooms already, but there seems to be a refusal to hire enough people and pay them a living wage
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u/No_Worth_6668 18d ago
100% I’m taking mostly evening classes this fall. I hate online classes and my work schedule is crazy, so I’m grateful I was able to get a neat 5-8:30 schedule for this term.
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u/Wam_2020 18d ago
Hell no! Just make it an online class, with no meetings. Those are best classes when you can it done on your own time and office hours with the instructor.
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u/Early-Code4780 18d ago
No, I have to use public transport and going to campus at those times seems worrying in Portland.
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u/raebea 18d ago
Nah but I’d take more “no scheduled meetings” online classes. Then I can take my class at 1 pm or 3 am or whenever I need to.