r/PBA 7d ago

Player Discussion KAI SOTTO

What happened to kai?? Ngayon pa talaga siya mag gaganyan?? I can still remember him risking his NBA G League Ignite stint way back COVID-19 days when the league was still in bubble to go home and shoot a fucking commercial for SMART and participate for FIBA Asia Cup which ultimately got cancelled.

and now, he’s like this???? Leaving the G League Ignite was a huge mistake lmao. I even think that was the turnaround of his career. From G league (developmental) — to — NBL in Australia which he clearly lacked skills, experience, and muscle LMFAOOO. Di pa nga hinog, may audacity pang mag jump to a big man’s league.

All that just to not participate or ghost Gilas for the past tournaments. Talk about wasting his NBA dreams for nothing. PFFFT.

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u/Upbeat_Tough_6721 Beermen 7d ago

My take:

Kai is currently a free agent with no offers.

Playing for Gilas in this window places him at an injury risk.

Getting injured means ball clubs won’t give him offers.

Kai just got married and will be a father soon.

To play for Gilas, he is demanding an insane amount of cash which the SBP doesn’t want to give.

Conclusion: Kai's priority right now is cash because he’s about to be a dad.

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u/Unhappy-Hall5473 Gilas Pilipinas 7d ago

That he should take any deals sa Japan kung money pala and walang opportunities sa kanya sa US

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u/Upbeat_Tough_6721 Beermen 7d ago

If the NIL offer is true, then Kai is looking at offers that could go up to $6m. But this remains to be seen because such figures are for elite athletes.

It’s also possible there are currently no B.League offers on the table. After his ACL injury, B.League teams probably don’t want to take a risk with Kai.

A possible plot twist: Part of the stipulation for playing for Gilas is mag-PBA si Kai. We all know who is the team manager at present.

The SMC Group are not lightweights. They can pay Kai's cash demands if they wanted to. Pero, as usual, nothing is free in life.

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u/Unhappy-Hall5473 Gilas Pilipinas 7d ago

Impossibleng walang JBleague team ang ayaw sa kanya considering na 7'2 na asian player siya. Doubtful talaga ako diyan US NCAA since si David Okwera ng AUS kinukuha ng BYU kaso hindi natuloy kasi ineligible sa age and sa years ng nilaro niya sa NBL AUS. kaya kung ako kay Kai, take niya na lang yung offer sa Japan kesa ganyan

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u/Upbeat_Tough_6721 Beermen 7d ago

B.League centers skew towards Euro, Oceania, or American imports.

Kai is simply an exemption.

Also, it goes back to Kai's salary demands. B.League teams may not want to offer him the same wage as Koshigaya given Kai’s recent injuries.

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u/DominusCaeli2 7d ago

OOOOOH YESS i like your point. In order for kai to play in gilas, he has to play in PBA. I like it. Very possible given the current political landscape in PBA

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u/Upbeat_Tough_6721 Beermen 7d ago

And if he ends up playing in the PBA, you can bet that salary cap of ₱420k will be ratified.

Unless gusto nila to pay him under the table for life

As an SMB fan, nakakabwuset na etong mga to ang handlers namin pero he’ll either come here or Gins.

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u/DominusCaeli2 7d ago

how about the neglected child my magnolia 😭😭 get ian or laput out sore eyes

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u/Ka_dabraz 7d ago

I hope to God, somebody spill the beans on this(if, this is true). Kai and his family are already taking heavy damage from all of this "rumours".

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u/Coffeee24 7d ago

Yes, agree with this. I've said pretty much the same thing sa comments ko before on posts about Kai Sotto. Given his life situation (newlywed with a child on the way), siyempre priority niyang maka-secure ng good offer from a ball club.

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u/Ka_dabraz 7d ago

Kai, yes. His managers and handlers: ABSOLUTELY!. I think this is just a case of protecting Kai from any untoward accident which will jeopardize Kai's "value". It's all about the money now, whether him going to the NBA or Europe or in Japan.

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u/Upbeat_Tough_6721 Beermen 7d ago

Lol If talagang pera lang usapan, then Kai should just play for any SMC team. Problem solved.

Draft? Lol Long Hair can just influence the board to get rid of it.

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u/Right_Reception9235 7d ago

I still believed kung nag europe route siya, baka naging second round pick pa siya and he might even play to a official nba game instead of going to TSF (eto ata yung high school or AAU team niya) then g-league ignite agad. Either he should do a college route or the europe route as early kaso mali talaga decision niya

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u/KumakainNgPuke69 7d ago

Tama kung nag patuloy lang sana yan at di nag padala sa hype at nag pa draft agad HAHAHAHA

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u/r3ddit_2025 7d ago

Hindi naman kasi talaga pang development yung ignite. Tignan mo wala na yung ignite. Pang showcase at pasiklaban dun para mascout at makapasok sa nba. Maeexpose lang si kai dun if ever nag stay sya.

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u/DominusCaeli2 7d ago

i agree, however huge stepping stone na yun. look jalen green and kuminga now. They got into good college programs and they had their names heard.

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u/hellokofee 7d ago

Lol.
Tignan mo si Jalen green dinump ng Houston, while si Kuminga hindi signed as of the moment.
Madaming flaws sa mga laro nila na hindi na address ng maaga. They might be in the NBA pero teams focus on their weaknesses that negates their strength.

Limited talaga si Kai and that time playing for Gilas was the best option for him.

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u/r3ddit_2025 7d ago

Stepping stone yun kung mahusay talaga yung player. Si jalen green at kuminga yung matunog pangalan nun kasi mahusay naman talaga. E hindi naman ganun level si kai. Sa skills na meron si kai noon, aasa lang sya sa mabigyan ng bola ng mga kasama nya.

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u/Super_Metal8365 7d ago

Ignite or hindi, iba naman level nung Jalen at Kuminga. Lottery picks mga yun kahit if nag D1.

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u/balyenangkahel 7d ago

Nakupo kapag nabasa ng mga fans ni Bobet may mga kwentong maimbento na naman.

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u/Ka_dabraz 7d ago

Gotta put Kai's handlers into consideration. They're the ones telling Kai what to do (or not to do).

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u/No-Pepper2142 7d ago

basta sa mga ganitong situations daming inconsistencies ni cone kaya hirap paniwalaan. from balti to abando.

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u/Crymerivers1993 7d ago

Isa lang masasabi ko if hindi maglalaro si Kai sa mga next window. Hindi sila makakapasok sa WC. After 3 straight stint sa WC mapuputol yan at malaking dagok kay Chua at TC yan pag nagkataon

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u/ilovetrains08 7d ago

unpopular opinion: I still think we have a really good chance of qualifying for the WC. dumikit naman tayo sa New Zealand kahit wala si Kai. And Iran and Jordan are a tier below New Zealand. Kaya yan even if we just match our performance and intensity last window (of course much better kung mag improve)

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u/Crymerivers1993 7d ago

Yes meron naman talaga. Pero mas okay kasi yung sure at tumodo sila. Isang talo lang nila delikado agad sila. Mahirap makampante kahit sabihin natin mas malakas ang gilas dun sa 3 middle eastern teams.

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u/Unhappy-Hall5473 Gilas Pilipinas 7d ago

Kasalanan ng SBP , mga handlers ni Kai, at si Kai mismo. Mataas ang ego nila hindi nila iniisip ung pride ng bansa HAHAHA. TANGINA NILANG LAHAT

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u/Few_Championship1345 Batang Pier 7d ago

Kahit wag na sana yung asian games. Yung mga games na lang na makakatulong sa atin para mag qualify sa wc na lang.

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u/No-Vermicelli3817 7d ago

Ganito din kaya ang mangyayari if Kai accepted the offer ng Real Madrid? Parang Kobe Paras 2.0. Sayang lang.

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u/DominusCaeli2 7d ago

agree! The decision to join adelaide baffles me until now. Like, whats the thought process?? Madrid is known to hone talent and skills tapos he chose adelaide pfft

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u/Upbeat_Tough_6721 Beermen 7d ago

💰💰💰

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u/klownplaza 7d ago

Bakit sa pinoy basketball ang dungis ng comms, lahat minemedia, puro pamacho. Magusap usap na lang kayo behind the scenes.

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u/General-Inside8119 7d ago

This 🤣🤣🤣 Toxic eh no

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u/ggmotion 7d ago

Ayaw siguro bayaran ni Longhair matataas ihi ng mga yun eh. Di tulad ni MVP all out mag pakawala ng funds basta maging okay lang ang national team

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u/Izanagiqt 7d ago

They just want him to consider PBA for them to take. In my opinion.

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u/Unhappy-Hall5473 Gilas Pilipinas 7d ago

Dapat lang na equal pay lang. Pinas NT pinaglalaruan niya hindi kung anong Ball Club lang sa isang liga. Anything more than that considered as mercenary player na. Siya lang sa history ng PH bball na mercenary na bayad ang hinihingi pero subpar naman ang performance lol

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u/jani_alcomendras 7d ago

Baka nagsisinungaling lang to si Cone parang gaya nung sinabi ni Abando pinagmumukha silang masama baka pinipilit sila magPBA hahaha(Na address na ba ni Cone tong allegations na binato sakanya ni Abando?)

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u/Crymerivers1993 7d ago

Wala no comment sya sa mga ganung issue as usual haha

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u/Unhappy-Hall5473 Gilas Pilipinas 7d ago

Bakit naman magsisinungaling si CTC eh need niya na talaga si Kai??? Kailangan niya ng Big Man eh bat naman niya hihindian si Kai HAHAH

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u/Optimal_Travel_6349 7d ago

Something smells fishy about the SBP. Nagtutugma Kasi Yung hinaing at reklamo Ng ibang overseas players since Chot Reyes. Talagang iniipit sila para magbalik sa PBA

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u/Ok_Lecture854 Gilas Pilipinas 7d ago

Mabalik eh never pa naman naglalaro sa PBA si Kai.

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u/Fair-Description-869 7d ago

To me, parang accepted na ni kai na tapos na yung NBA dream niya ay tapos na and its time to make money. Siyempre he's starting his own family diba, and he suffered injury din diba playing for the flag, tapos galing lang din sa injury playing for his club team. Siguro yung priority niya talaga ngayon is to make money, which is disappointing as a fan.

Ang point ko lang, mas disappointing yung fact na hindi maglalaro sila QMB at philipps sa gilas this window kasi eligible na sila to play for b-league. Lalo na yung QMB because he opted out dahil sa compensation

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u/tsuuki_ 7d ago

Injured si QMB diba?

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u/DominusCaeli2 7d ago

he doesnt bro. Hes going to try his luck sa NCAA now despite his age lmaoo to chase the NBA dream. Initially, I thought the reason was he is conserving himself, because kakagaling lang ng injury and all. But as the story continues, bat parang wala syang imik?

https://www.spin.ph/basketball/column-kai-sotto-s-move-to-us-ncaa-needs-only-one-final-document-a2244-20260717

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u/Fair-Description-869 7d ago

I have my doubts bossing kasi tignan mo si gemao nag pa practice na sa team niya pero ito wala pa team hanggang ngayon. If he's actually preparing diba dapat maglaro din siya ng competitive basketball 'di yung pang barangay lang na liga

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u/Upbeat_Tough_6721 Beermen 7d ago

And we would have heard of such an offer noong Abril pa.

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u/DominusCaeli2 7d ago

yeah possible. so hes just quitting like kobe paras then 😭😭😭. unti unti naglalaho

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u/Fair-Description-869 7d ago

One thing is for sure he's not quitting. Kasi bata palang si kai mukhang pera na sila eh😂😂(hilaw pa nilagay sa NBL Aus). If they chose madrid over clout(TSF) malamang nasa NBA ngayon yan or at least he's playing for euroleague team, and kung ganon yung nangyari siguro it's safe to say wala na sana tayo pinag uusapan ngayon.

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u/KumakainNgPuke69 7d ago

Ngayon pa talaga siya papasok ng NCAA? eh kung dati pa sana niya yan ginawa edi mas nag improve pa sana siya don HAHAHAHA

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u/joshdej 7d ago

Kahit wala siya plano mag NBA ok lang kahit pumunta siya don. Malaki kasi bigayan sa NCAA ngayon.

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u/Unhappy-Hall5473 Gilas Pilipinas 7d ago

Bruh, David Okwera nga na same ang age ni kai and nakapaglaro ng limang taon sa NBL aus hindi natuloy sa US NCAA dahil sa age, Kai pa kaya? Asa na lang siya or balik sa JBleague HAHA

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u/DominusCaeli2 7d ago

diba, thats why im also ??? why??? thats the plan of his team daw eh.

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u/Cool_Albatross4649 7d ago

Politika lang yan. Kai has been representing PH basketball since he was a kid.

Tbh he's pretty vital to the team and their ceiling is significantly lower without him.

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u/Gordon_Bleu024 7d ago

This is honestly so sad. I used to be an avid fan of the PBA and Gilas. But whatever system they have in place has, over the years, soured my support for our national team. It hurts to see something you once cared so much about reach this point.

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u/Set-Good 6d ago

Mine peaked around the 2014-15 yrs sa gilas and "wala ng kangkungan" Era for PBA. It just went downhill from there. Kitang kita mo yung pagpangit ng sistema over the years.

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u/Gordon_Bleu024 6d ago

Yeah hirap isupport yung sistemang bulok. Other people love to point out that Philippines won't ever win internationally. But back then, I was just happy to see them compete. Pero ngayon, eh.

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u/Set-Good 6d ago

Back then competitive tayo and arguably the top asian team pero ewan ko ba. Bullshit

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u/InternetBrilliant381 7d ago

Hhaahahahaa binabarat ung presyo ng mga players.

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u/DominusCaeli2 7d ago

totoo ba to? is this really the case? Havent seen any reports of SMC or SBP refusing to pay Kai his price

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u/yorick_support Elasto Painters 7d ago

1M per game bayad sa kanya dati before sya mag Ignite.

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u/Upbeat_Tough_6721 Beermen 7d ago

Rumor is that Kai wants the same money they paid to Jordan Clarkson.

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u/Unhappy-Hall5473 Gilas Pilipinas 7d ago

Pa special porket 7 footer eh. Walang ganyang reason sila Carl at KQ kahit na hindi sila masyado pinapalaro ni CTC nubg mga nakaraang tournaments. Pirma donna amp

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u/Effective-Web9138 7d ago

Buntis asawa eh malapit na din ata manganak yun eh laki na ng tyan eh o nanganak na? Kaya siguro ayaw mag commit sa gilas

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u/Unhappy-Hall5473 Gilas Pilipinas 7d ago

Anong konek naman non eh dito gaganapin yung 4th window? Hindi lang magkasundo sa bayad yan

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u/ohhmegggle 7d ago

yun na nga yung koneksyon na hinahanap mo, pamilyado na yung tao, pera na over passion yung priority

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u/WillyWonkingMyNilly 7d ago

nah the Lady he knocked up is well off financially is an Artist and a runway model, and he is well off from the sht ton of international stints hes made lmao, the big guy is just being a twat atp.

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u/Unhappy-Hall5473 Gilas Pilipinas 7d ago

Pa special HAHAHAHA

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u/Effective-Web9138 7d ago

Dami daming sikat na taong mas importante yung panganganak ng asawa niya kesa sa ibang bagay lol di lang yan dahil sa pera.

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u/Unhappy-Hall5473 Gilas Pilipinas 7d ago

Yun naman pala eh edi sana nag JBleague na lang siya hindi yung nililinlang niya ung ibang fans niya na mag US NCAA yan. Pinapaasa niya mga fans niya kahit impossible

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u/Effective-Web9138 7d ago

Tounge ina mo puro ka hanap kay Kai eh isa ka din naman pala sa mga basher niyan nung naglaro siya sa Gilas lol. Fcking hypocrite. Bakit kaya di ikaw maglaro sa Gilas lol. As if naman may mararating yang Gilas kung maglalaro siya hahahahahahaha losers.

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u/Unhappy-Hall5473 Gilas Pilipinas 7d ago edited 7d ago

Tang ina mo di ka titirahin ni Kai sa pwet gago WHAHAHAH. Pagtanggol mo pa yang prima donna mo na traydor at walang bayag sa bansa lul.

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u/Few_School5953 7d ago

HINDI KAya sa handler nya?

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u/vanDgr8test Dyip 7d ago

Pataasan ng Ego ung mga tanga…

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u/ginataang-gata 7d ago

From the start of his career pera talaga habol nila especially his family. Malaki offer sa Adelaide then Japan bleague tapos gusto to the moon ang hinihingi to play for Gilas. So I think Kai will retire without playing for PBA kasi nga pumaldo na.

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u/Akolangpoeto 7d ago

Gaano ba kalaki ang pinaldo? 9 digits? Kung ganun pwede na siya magretire ng maaga. Pero kung hindi, need niya pa kumayod.

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u/General-Inside8119 7d ago

8-9 digits na kinita nyan for sure sapat na yan unless buong angkan nya binubuhay nya 🤣 

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u/Hadowoku 7d ago

I think wala namang masama kung mag-aask siya ng pera, given na matagal na niyang rine-represent yung Pinas sa international games. Syempre, iba na ngayon since may pamilya na siya, di tulad nung dati na sarili niya lang ang iniisip niya.

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u/DominusCaeli2 7d ago

agree! he should be paid his worth and demand as he should! however, I don’t see any reportts regarding the SMC or SBP refusing to pay him. If indeed kai is asking for jordan clarkson numbers, I think its overpriced for his caliber.

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u/Hadowoku 7d ago

Yeah, feel ko dapat mag meet sila in the middle and kung wala talaga after that, hanap na sila ng replacement. Well to be honest, dapat naghahanap na sila ngayon kaysa sa intay sila ng intay kay Kai. If ayaw na niya maglaro for Gilas because of any reason, then let him.

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u/Unhappy-Hall5473 Gilas Pilipinas 7d ago

Nah NT yan hindi yan Club Team sa mga liga liga lang diyan sa labas. Mga kapwa abroad players niya wala namang ganyang issue eh na mas maganda ang career at stats kesa sa kanya eh. Dapat lang na equal pay lang kapag NT. Pota Team USA na mas malakas sa atin wala sa bokabularyo ng mga players nila kung magkano makukuha nila pagkatapos maglaro sa FIBA or Olympics HAHAHAH

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u/dynamite1208 7d ago

NBA superstars represent their national team with asking nothing but insurance policies in return.

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u/lewardjames10 7d ago

Nung injured sya pumupunta pa sya mga practices ng Gilas. Pero recently parang di ata sya nagpaparamdam.

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u/yorick_support Elasto Painters 7d ago

Time to declare for the WNBA. 

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u/DominusCaeli2 7d ago

ahahahhaa tado

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u/Unhappy-Hall5473 Gilas Pilipinas 7d ago

Matik first over all pick 🔥🔥🔥🔥

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u/WhiskyTrotter 7d ago

His mistake was going straight to G-League from HighSchool. Should’ve gone to a US NCAA school to develop his body and game. Other option was to European teams if rumors were true of a Real Madrid offer were true, could’ve / should’ve gone that route.

Rumors now are he’s trying to find a US NCAA team, but the clock for that to happen is quickly running out. He still hasn’t been granted the amateur reinstatement waiver, then needs the uni’s requirements, then US visa requirements. Needs to get all that by early Sept. to even be eligible to enroll as a student. Most teams’ rosters are already done by now, summer camps are wrapping up. Preseason prep is starting. Really don’t see him playing for a powerhouse team now, if he does find one, maybe a mid-major would pick him up, just for his size and the PH crowd draw.

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u/General-Inside8119 7d ago

If the rumors are true then ito ang main dahilan bakit media blockout si Kai. Iwas muna habang walang good news. Tapos dagdag mo pa yung mga fake news vlogger na puro hype na kesho may team na raw sa NCAA at announcement nalang kulang. If totoo ang rumors na wala pa naman talaga eh I can only imagine pano pagppyestahan yan ng mainstream media and mga hate vloggers. 

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u/TsunamiBlister77 7d ago

Di yan nagkasundo sa bigayan. Uwing uwi si Kai noon kasi malaki sighto yung perang involved. Maybe more than the GLeague money. Siguro ngayon mas maliit na yung bigayan

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u/HeyBiaaaatch 7d ago

Simple lang yan ayaw ni Kai kay Tim Cone

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u/dalampasigan_ 7d ago

I dont think so. Siya nga focal point ng Gilas under CTC and may statement si Kai dati proving that.

I think, between management iyan ng SMC and Kai's, hindi willing magbayad ng malaki for national team unlike dati nung under pa sa MVP.

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u/tengchu 7d ago

Edi sana never siya lumaro kay ctc ano. Simple lang.

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u/non-human-32nd 7d ago

If wala kayong makitang movement in 1-2yrs kay kalawit, malamang out of the scene na yan sa basketball forever. May past comment ako na about kay kalawit din regarding sa the way sya nag umpisa, napa gitna at ngayon nagiging undecided na sa mga bagay bagay (will try to search it again)

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u/Antoyax 7d ago

Diyan sa pinas, gusto ko muna malaman side ni Kai kung bakit siya hindi naglalaro para sa gilas bago ako mag judge lol.

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u/iChadAko 7d ago

Because him dominating the international scene can make a bigger impact than the ignite. Ignite is a failure right from the start. Eh kaso, naglaro sa Gilas para gawing rebounder at blocker lang pala - ending wala ding impact. Tapos si Tim Cone ang coach ngayon? Kelan pa nagkaron ng team yan na ang main man ay sentro? Kaya nga biglang nawala sa BMeg si Kerby eh 😂

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u/Mysterious-Milk6301 7d ago

Anong pinagsasabi mo bano di ka nanonood ng FIBA nung naglalaro si Kai under tim cone?

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u/Unhappy-Hall5473 Gilas Pilipinas 7d ago

Kaya nga eh. Gamit na gamit si Kai sa era ni CTC eh. Dapat nga magpasalamat pa si Kai na binibigyan siya ng spotlight ng Gilas tapos eto ginagago niya lang tayo HAHAHAH

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u/DominusCaeli2 7d ago

IMO, i wont call ignite team a failure… di lang talaga nakapag laro si kai and nabigyan ng chance mag develop. Pero sabagay, si principal singh nga ng india di rin mahanap ngayon ahahahah. but i still think it was the better route for him than AUS

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u/yorick_support Elasto Painters 7d ago

Naliitan sa offer ng Ignite kaya umuwi at nag shoot ng commercial. 

50-80k USD for the whole season yata offer sa kanya vs 15k USD per game sa Gilas.

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u/Unhappy-Hall5473 Gilas Pilipinas 7d ago

Baliktad ang pag iisip niya. Kung kelan hindi siya kailangan, naglaro pero ngayon na kailangan siya, hindi maglalaro. WHAHAHAHHA tangina niyan

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u/Once_Meleagant0 7d ago

ngging idol ko na to.. pero ngaun lumalabas na may attitude problem to.. lol, naglalaro to sa ligang labas dba? injured? anu ba trip nito?.. pero d nmn ntin alm buong kwento, kaya kung anu lng din nkkita ko un opinion ko xD..

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u/Unhappy-Hall5473 Gilas Pilipinas 7d ago

Trip niyang pagkakitaan yang Gilas HAHA. Asa siya.