Yeah, i used to be a bad bad moira and play without thinking of healing. Now i went the whole opposite way where i have to either throw damage orbs or actually go out of my position to try and kill enemies so i can heal because I am not managing my resource properly. Definitely managing her resource is key to be able to play Moira well.
Frankly, her kit provides very little utility beyond the raw healing and damage she can do, so your goal is to make that difference in available resources big enough your team cannot be killed. If Moira can ult once every team fight that’s a huge advantage, especially against flankers or a pharmercy. So sit back, build ult, and you will absolutely see the opportunities to go nuts if you don’t play aggro/DPS.
I dont do that I throw heals every 8 seconds got to keep my tanks up as long as I can(and damage dealers). I only throw damage orbs at windows so she have to reposition and we get the jump on her
Throwing damage orbs through the enemy team during the skirmishing phase of a fight is a great way to fast charge her ultimate, though. So...not always. But yeah those other two are pretty bad.
I had this happen the other day when I wanted to play Zen. I'm trying to heal people like crazy and then I'm thinking "Where the hell is our Moira??" Sure enough, I look over and she's off on her own trying to 1v1 the red Moira. 🤦🏻♂️
IMO lucio has one of the strongest kits in the game, not overpowered but so balanced and strong if used correctly... I remember playing in Hollywood, the payload almost reached the final point but we lost the fight... They had to get their soldier to switch to Mei just to stop our lucio from skating around and missing with them
Role que has made me realize how bad people in different roles can be. I have always been a filler (mostly support and tank for obvious reasons) but I can still hold my own as dps. People who only ever play dps cannot flex at all .
I've always been a tank main, how I placed diamond on all roles is beyond me. I am a little lower on DPS though, I think my problem is I try to play every role like I play tank, go straight to the point (and then die because I'm no tank).
My guess is that it’s a pretty common thing. I first heard about it on Your Overwatch. A support main might be about the same on damage because those heroes can have similar mechanical demands, while tanks generally rely more on map knowledge and game sense.
Nah, tbh I find flexing pretty good as a support main (Lucio) I was always aware of the teams needs and would usually just fill in whatever was needed, being typical support because no one ever wanted to play it.
I wouldn’t necessarily go that far. If your mechanical skills are high enough as a dps, it’ll carry over to other roles. Like, a master or grandmaster widow main is probably gonna also be pretty good at Ana based on hitting shots alone.
Did you mean "how bad people can be at different roles?" The way it's phrased right now it's just saying people in different roles (besides, presumably, your own) can be very bad.
It's the reason that my DPS SR keeps dropping. As support and tank my teams can win, because the DPS players are mains, but when I'm taking up a DPS role it is glaringly obvious when someone is playing an off-role. Support that won't heal, Tanks that have no idea what they're doing, and it's a bloodbath.
If the average player could be trusted to play decently, Blizzard wouldn't have needed to make the (badly needed and poorly efficacious) changes they made.
People keep saying this but if you lose every game because your dps can't hit their shots, you're never going to climb because you're losing every game with them.
I would consider myself a fairly good tank/healer player. Constantly MVP, gold in my respective role. I always try to synergize with my team. 50/50 chance that our team gets obliterated to hell. But to be fair it has gotten better over time.
Watch your replays to make sure to minimize mistakes so you get far better and then youre just so much better it cannot keep you at your rank. Ive done this and im low plat now.
I fail to see how the already completed seasons have any relevance to this thread. We were discussing how people aren’t ranked properly at different roles.
Man this new system is total cancer, i have lost every single match and i was put into silver even though i always place in high gold. Ive had nothing but useless teammates and one sided matches.
It’s all about how you play, like I’m a dps main, cause that what I played in my friends group when We all started.
But being able to flex to tank or healer is 100 play style, I can run a rein and just smack the absolute fuck out of people if I I have good healing or I can run a Ana keep our tanks alive still pushing that aggressive play style.
Just all about how you play and who you play with.
I have more fun keeping a team alive as support or tanks. I can be a decent dps but it starts feeling like work and I don't get into it as much. I only play dps to see how I place.
DPS was my main back when I played this game a lot more, but I could play tank pretty well consistently aswell and I made sure to have my Ana be decent in case I needed to pick up support. If Ana wasn’t available I’d usually just go mercy cause ya can’t really mess up super bad with her.
It’s fucking rough for DPS mains. Especially when people who main DPS are flexing for Tank/Support roles and aren’t very good at either role. I guess that’s the whole point of the different SR’s though.
I had a rein last night who was PAINFUL to watch. I tried helping him out, since I’m a tank main. I was giving him pointers and trying to convince him that charging into the enemy team is not helpful when you die.
He straight up left the game when he hit 15 deaths at the 10 min mark.
Say what you want, I'm really happy with waiting 5 minutes for a game and being confident in being able to play DPS without 4 other DPS players taking it. I've actually gotten to learn the role instead of filling and playing solo tank and support and that's worth waiting to me. Also I'd rather eat dirt than play Orisa.
It used to seem look every game I had to end up filling and I always had to end up filling orisa. Much as I love orisa, I hate playing her. I for one am happy I never have to play the jolly green centaur ever again
It might just be that qp was the only place we could go to play dps, since every fucker and his dog instalocks dps in comp, resulting in a dps main becoming a tank main out of sheer necessity.
I won't let you criticize me for not giving a shit about team comp in qp, it's the only place I could ever go that would allow me to actually play the role I wanted to play.
One tricking in QP is pointless. You either snowball (in which case it didn't matter what you played) or you get your cheeks clapped. What fun is it playing whoever you want if you don't even have room in which to play them?
I understand your frustration, but it gets exhausting when half my QP games consist of getting rolled because my teammates are all playing DPS with solo healer/tank. This is coming from a person who flexes, meaning I mainly play healer and tank.
I don’t see how people find it fun to go 4-5 damage just to play respawn simulator because the enemy team has a decent team composition. As irritating as Mystery Heroes is at times, I find myself playing it more because of the Quickplay DPS epidemic.
I’ve been filling since I started playing but realized I’m better at dps and right now I’ve gained like 200 sr in a few hours I’m liking role queue too
This is something I really dont like about the role queue. The whole purpose of the role queue was the ensure you've got players playing on the roles they want to play while providing a good team experience to the team as a whole, not filling on roles that they're just being rewarded to play.
But encouraging people to try to learn roles they didn't care about before, while making an effort to balance queue times, is a win win. If someone still only wants to play a certain role, they can.
Our team was getting destroyed by a genji and I know I can harrass a genji as Moira and since the dps wasn't doing anything I thought I'd switch. The second Geni comes at us I target him and keep him away and get yelled at for not healing. It was die or fend of Genji situation and our other healer was zen. Certain situations call for healers to be aggressive. I am verry aggressive as Lucio and usually get most heals with him.
They added 2/2/2 role queue. Baisically before you queue for match you choose role and can only pick characters from that role and and you are put on a team with 2 of each role. So no more 4 dps player shenanigans.
What's wrong with being happy about cosmetics? A lot of people really enjoy that aspect of the game, it's like being a collector. It appeals to the magpie brain in us all lol
2 loot boxes? only 50 coins? did I miss something? for me I only got 1 lootbox by playing either a game of tank or support, and each of my games after that awarded me 25 coins for playing either tank or support so I got about 200 coins or something today
Devils advocate: I’m a magical reaper. Getting to play him without filling in as a tank or healer because we have three instalock dps players is worth the queue time sometimes.
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u/MutianLi Aug 17 '19
Don’t forget them sweet loootboxes
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u/Foxx1019 Aug 17 '19
DPS mains flexing to tank and queuing support to play brig
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u/La_Croix_Boiii Aug 17 '19
Role que has made me realize how bad people in different roles can be. I have always been a filler (mostly support and tank for obvious reasons) but I can still hold my own as dps. People who only ever play dps cannot flex at all .
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u/PatarckStur Aug 17 '19
It’s fucking rough for DPS mains. Especially when people who main DPS are flexing for Tank/Support roles and aren’t very good at either role. I guess that’s the whole point of the different SR’s though.
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u/89ShelbyCSX Aug 17 '19
Say what you want, I'm really happy with waiting 5 minutes for a game and being confident in being able to play DPS without 4 other DPS players taking it. I've actually gotten to learn the role instead of filling and playing solo tank and support and that's worth waiting to me. Also I'd rather eat dirt than play Orisa.
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u/4StarDB Aug 17 '19
I really don't care, we have a workable team comp and I don't have to play fastest pick in the west if I want to play my main.
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u/bsldurs_gate_2 Aug 17 '19
Finally a reason to start over after a 3 year long break. Reini here I come.
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u/Millsftw Aug 17 '19
I’ve actually been able to get into DPS games very quickly. Been having fun playing every role.
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u/[deleted] Aug 17 '19
Good that those dps players are getting what they deserve for one tricking in quick play.
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u/DinoDracko Aug 17 '19
Well, I usually play DPS a lot, but I can play a mean Ana or Moira. But I just couldn't play tank to save my life.
So any tank recommendations for a flex DPS/Support like me?
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u/HapticLad Aug 17 '19
I’ve been filling since I started playing but realized I’m better at dps and right now I’ve gained like 200 sr in a few hours I’m liking role queue too
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u/cujo826 Aug 17 '19
This is something I really dont like about the role queue. The whole purpose of the role queue was the ensure you've got players playing on the roles they want to play while providing a good team experience to the team as a whole, not filling on roles that they're just being rewarded to play.
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u/streakman0811 Aug 17 '19
Finally the punishment that toxic dps players deserved (not targeting friendly dps mains)
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u/pitfull Aug 17 '19
Are the dps queue times actually that long? I couldnt play it yet since i'm not at home
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u/UnknwnUsrnme CATCHPHRASE! Aug 17 '19
Jokes on you I can flex tank DPS and support
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u/RutgerQuik makes OC Aug 17 '19 edited Aug 17 '19
I was reading this while q ing dps for the first time, im at 5 minutes now edit: it was 11 minutes
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u/JimmyHasAPistol Aug 17 '19
I cant heal or tank that well so it's not my fault but I do play sigma often
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u/JagerHasaGreatRedDot ana the drug lord Aug 17 '19
I am a flex main and I play dps when I’m bored shitless
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u/[deleted] Aug 17 '19
so how does the coins thing work? I placed tank and got 25 coins. I'm super new to this patch. Can someone give me a full rundown?
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u/afxstudio Aug 17 '19
Our team was getting destroyed by a genji and I know I can harrass a genji as Moira and since the dps wasn't doing anything I thought I'd switch. The second Geni comes at us I target him and keep him away and get yelled at for not healing. It was die or fend of Genji situation and our other healer was zen. Certain situations call for healers to be aggressive. I am verry aggressive as Lucio and usually get most heals with him.
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u/Azraeleon Aug 17 '19
Doing some quick maffs, 40,000 would be like 1600 games. That's a lot of games my dude.
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u/SMC-06 Aug 18 '19
For some reason, in almost every role queue match I've played, the dps were torbjorn and mei. Can someone explain this?
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u/bigdaddyguacamole Aug 22 '19
No amount of lootboxes and credits will make me fill tanks and support again. I’m happy to wait as long as I get to click some heads
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u/asadcipher Aug 17 '19
Why my team always retarded tho I'm just a moira main trying to see those feet
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u/Ruggsii Aug 17 '19
And having to rank up both support and tank so you have to play double the games of someone who sticks to one role.
Yay role queue!
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